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We declared war when we started murdering innocents. But nobody can fight us and win, so they don't. George will destroy the entire planet if he has to, and the whole world knows it. If ANYBODY fucks with George's Oil, they're dead.

If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator.
-- President G. W. Bush

Hm. Yes.

To be very precise: After looking at the available information, much of which conflicts or is filled with peculiar elements which do not mesh with the official story, it seems evident that numerous parties other than the terrorist body may have been aware before hand what was going to happen, did nothing to prevent it, and may in fact have been assisting in its development.

By whom was 9/11 manufactured?

Not easy to answer in a word, however.

The party/ies, assuming they exist, were either able to:

*Quash FBI investigative efforts which would have prevented the disaster.
see interview with David Shippers, the attorney who headed the Clinton impeachment trials, now representing FBI officers who charge that they were regularly prohibited or coerced into withholding their discoveries of the terrorist activities long before, not just the 9/11 attack, but Oklahoma and others.

*Affect the airline check-in systems so that none of the alleged hijackers names appeared on the passenger lists.
See Perplexing puzzle (I linked to this one already in the post above. I assume you have read through it?)

*Affect the major news outlets by removing seasoned staffers to replace them with young and untested journalists all throughout 2001, with many cuts right around 9/11. CNN launched it's new 'look' and staff structure only days prior to the 9/11.
Link 1, Link 2, Link 3

(This is just a brief sampling of pages I looked for just now. I seem to have lost my links which contained a list of CNN staffers fired just prior to 9/11. Can't find it on-line anymore. Annoying. In any case, this last might have been coincidence, but it was very convenient that the American news structure was reduced in brain-size right when it was most critical that good journalists be around to question the weak points of this story. The powers involved, if they were opperating from such high levels, would certainly have been both able to affect such changes and would have been foolish not to. But, of course, that's just speculation.)

There are numerous other aspects of this which are not quickly summed up and require more detailed searching, and indeed, the above links were only selected for their simplicity in demonstrating what I'm talking about; there is much more information for those willing to look. Other aspects include:

*The possibility of remote piloting. (Although, while there are three specific points which indicate a strong possibility of this, including private documents recovered from the terrorists written the day prior to the event wherein they described their willingness to serve jail sentences for the crimes they intended to commit the next day, (ie, they didn't realize they were on a suicide mission), and other crash investigations (AirIndia) the black box voice recordings from which indicated a strong possibility that control of the plane was removed from the pilots and directed into the ocean against their will, (ie, demonstrating that such a thing may be possible), and the 100% perfect paths of descent and vectoring, with zero corrections made, that the planes used to make their impacts into the towers; calculated only once from the first moment the planes changed course, (i.e. suggesting that the human pilots were not involved. In any case, I think these particular arguments, while in themselves are interesting, do not necessarily indicate remote piloting.)
*The numerous links between Bin Laden, Bush and the CIA.
*The various reports of warnings hours before and 'lucky' absentees
*The numerous strange questions surrounding the rented car and Arabic flight manuals.

The list goes on.

Anyway, that should clarify what I meant by, "Manufactured."

Hope this helps.

-Fantastic Lad

Try going to the same bank each time you work with your money and deal with human employees. That's what I do. They know me. I know them. There is no chance of an imposter, short of a disguise artist, ripping me off.

The problem is that people are being encouraged by the banks and corporate bodies to engage in impersonal money practices which ARE prone to identity theft, and in which Bio-metrics would be useful. As you pointed out yourself, the problem is only when such systems are abused.

And THE problem is that those who are trying to implement identity tracking systems will almost certainly perpetuate abuse. They cannot be trusted.

I have cut & pasted a short response made to somebody else above which I think addresses some of your conceptions. . .

Down at my local business supplies warehouse outlet, you can already buy thumb print readers designed to lock all but 'favored users' out of computers or whatever.)

For those of you who don't see why this is bad, consider how much fun it would be to have yourself locked out of the economy for having dissident political views. --Or for failing to pay a traffic ticket. You only get to buy bread if you heartily agree that Arabs are evil. Mm. Fun!

Being able to accurately trace & identify any individual, (National I.D. cards), and the on-going movement towards a virtual money society, (debit & credit cards: note the effects of the Euro introduction, where citizens are being strongly encouraged by authorities to avoid 'confusion' with the new cash by relying only on plastic money), will make it MUCH easier to control the populace.

Anybody who thinks that any aspect of this is a good thing should remove from their ears and eyes the filters which only allow in the 'Very Reasonable Sounding' B.S. arguments as supplied by the U.S. propaganda departments, and take a good, hard look around.

9/11 was almost certainly manufactured, and even if it wasn't, it is being exploited to the hilt. Turn off CNN, (propaganda), grow a spine, (ignore the accusations by the popular kids of 'tin-foil hatters'; Time to grow up, ignore the Gap wearing sheep and their desperate to be accepted /. counterparts, (Harsh, I know, but unfortunately quite true), and rely on yourself to form your own conclusions), --And get down to doing some critical research.

If you are critical enough, (of words from BOTH sides of the fence; Very important), intelligent enough, -and if you work for long enough to get a solid feel for all the available information, then you will begin to see another reality rise from the fog.

Otherwise, you might as well just accept a nice ear-tag.

Remember: Sheep get tagged & numbered. They also get fleeced. And eaten.

Some links to get started:

A brief, but solid essay on the nature & mechanics of propaganda, with examples from the U.S. during WWI to present. A 7 minute read, approx.

An article about Gulf War propaganda, outlining how the 'Babies Torn from Incubators by Iraqi Soldiers' was manufactured and used by Bush to instill war fever. 2 minute read.

Article on how IBM made a fortune during WWII by covertly supplying Hitler with the punch card technology used to process Jews for termination -Throws an interesting light upon national identification tracking systems.
7 minute read including excerpt.

Significant anomalies regarding the flight lists of the planes used in the terror attacks. 5 minute read, (10, including searches of the passenger lists to verify the writer's sources)

Empty but maintained concentration camps in the U.S. This link is half sensationalist, alarmist B.S.. Read with caution. Although it is worth noting that FEMA and the Rex 80 programs are real; the laws can be found on-line. Food for thought.

Okay. That's enough for now. Read. Think. And I hope nobody bothers me with dip-shit flames unless you've actually read this stuff. Flames are usually a waste of time with me, but if you have legit questions or criticisms, I'm always happy to respond and/or update my own knowledge base. Growing and learning is fun!

Good luck.

-Fantastic Lad

Some links to get started:

A brief, but solid essay on the nature & mechanics of propaganda, with examples from the U.S. during WWI to present. A 7 minute read, approx.

An article about Gulf War propaganda, outlining how the 'Babies Torn from Incubators by Iraqi Soldiers' was manufactured and used by Bush to instill war fever. 2 minute read.

Article on how IBM made a fortune during WWII by covertly supplying Hitler with the punch card technology used to process Jews for termination -Throws an interesting light upon national identification tracking systems.
7 minute read including excerpt.

Significant anomalies regarding the flight lists of the planes used in the terror attacks. 5 minute read, (10, including searches of the passenger lists to verify the writer's sources)

Empty but maintained concentration camps in the U.S. This link is half sensationalist, alarmist B.S.. Read with caution. Although it is worth noting that FEMA and the Rex 80 programs are real; the laws can be found on-line. Food for thought.

Okay. That's enough for now. Read. Think. And don't waste my time with dip-shit flames unless you've actually read this stuff. Flames are usually a waste of time with me, but if you have legit questions or criticisms, I'm always happy to respond and/or update my own knowledge base. Growing and learning is fun!

Good luck.

-Fantastic Lad

Some links to get started:

A brief, but solid essay on the nature & mechanics of propaganda, with examples from the U.S. during WWI to present. A 7 minute read, approx.

An article about Gulf War propaganda, outlining how the 'Babies Torn from Incubators by Iraqi Soldiers' was manufactured and used by Bush to instill war fever. 2 minute read.

Article on how IBM made a fortune during WWII by covertly supplying Hitler with the punch card technology used to process Jews for termination -Throws an interesting light upon national identification tracking systems.
7 minute read including excerpt.

Significant anomalies regarding the flight lists of the planes used in the terror attacks. 5 minute read, (10, including searches of the passenger lists to verify the writer's sources)

Empty but maintained concentration camps in the U.S. This link is half sensationalist, alarmist B.S.. Read with caution. Although it is worth noting that FEMA and the Rex 80 programs are real; the laws can be found on-line. Food for thought.

Okay. That's enough for now. Read. Think. And don't waste my time with dip-shit flames unless you've actually read this stuff. Flames are usually a waste of time with me, but if you have legit questions or criticisms, I'm always happy to respond and/or update my own knowledge base. Growing and learning is fun!

Good luck.

-Fantastic Lad

Happy Kwanza indeed.

There was a story a while back about older CDs succumbing to a fungus that corroded the media.

Bad news.

Bush's Orwellian Address -- or, let's all get together for today's Two Minutes' Hate toward Osama bin Goldstein, er, bin Laden. Do you see anything wrong with quietly allowing the government to pull materials that might, in some infinitesimal way, contribute to something "bad" happening (at least as far as the media blowhards can sensationalize it)?

The is a petition to retain your Civil Rights at Defend Your Freedom dot org. I have seen stuff on this sort of thing from everyone including the KKK to the ACLU, Pat Buchanon, and Common Cause. Something strange is going on when people across the spectrum are bitching, not just the wierdos.

Heck, even the Department of Homeland Security sounds like something out of Nazi Germany. This is unfortunate given the allegations that the Bush grandfather made his fortune in trade with that country.

There is a whole lot of political dirty laundry out there that needs to be washed.

We're British scientists. We don't need reasons to do things, just cool things to do.

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The Lameness filter can filter this.

Interesting question you pose about benefit, and motive. Who knows? Maybe they were just convenient scapegoats, or perhaps someone higher up had a vendetta thing going on. Hehehe, maybe it was retaliation by the govt for harboring Microsoft's World HQ ;)

(I wasn't in Seattle for the festivities, but a few close friends were...some of which are referenced by my .sig...)

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But this will give more ammo to people like Rush Limbaugh who think that humans can't actually damage significant portions of the ozone layer anyway and that it's all volcanoes' fault.

Volcanoes do release a lot of ozone-depleting substances into the atmosphere. According to the U.S. Geological Survey, the 1991 eruption of Mount Pinatubo directly caused significant ozone depletion. You can argue all you want that "natural" CFCs are water soluable, but look at what happened! Volcanic clouds were observed to have depleted ozone. This is documented fact.

Also, don't dismiss the impact of other factors (i.e. solar wind, political agendas, the Almighty Dollar) on ozone depletion, or the lack thereof.