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Re:I wonder...
In other words, you're assuming that because most Democrats feel they were robbed of an election, they'd assume that electronic voting would be a MORE secure way of voting, rather than a LESS secure one. The problem with that is that most Democrats who have heard anything about electronic voting associate it with 1. the Diebold president's promise to deliver Ohio to the Republicans, which proves he's a Republican and in context suggests (falsely, of course) a rather sinister potential mechanism for doing so, and 2. the fact that the number one proponent of electronic voting seems to be Jeb Bush, who promised to do everything he could to deliver Florida in the last election (again, false sinister connotations; I doubt that the Republican activitists repsonsible for the irregularities with the voting rolls and with closed roads, etc. on Election Day 2000 in north Florida were acting under direction from Jeb Bush) and seems to have succeeded. So I provided you with some print evidence from a non-partisan news source (well, partisan with regards to voting machines, true, but to my knowledge neither Republican nor Democratic) that in fact Democrats tend to have mixed feelings about electronic voting - on the one hand Kerry naively seems to think that some kind of encryption can resolve the issues, on the other hand, many Democrats as I have just pointed out are suspicious because they see much of the motive force behind electronic voting coming from Republicans, whom they don't trust with their elections. On balance, it looks as though most Democrats are against it.
So my point is that your assumptions are wrong, the reports in the press suggest that the main perception is that as classes Democrats are anti-electronic-voting and Republicans are pro-electronic-voting. Such perceptions tend to be self-fulfilling, of course: if a Democrat hears that a Republican is for something, often he will take a position against it without thought, and vice-versa. With regard to the actual party leadership, though, the perception is wrong, or at least over-simplified: as an example, in Texas, at least, despite the (Republican?) Secretary of State's myopia, BOTH party platforms hold the sensible position that electronic voting machines must provide paper trails.
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MOD PARENT UP!
Exactly! You made my point so I didn't have to. 1000 people compared to 291 million is a joke. And the Diebold machines are, as I said once before, funked. Head on over to SafeVoting.org and take a look at the video. Ya can't trust 'em, folks.
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The Diebold machines are funked...
Have you seen the "secret" video? Go here and take a look. I love how these things can't be trusted to add correctly.
Pen and paper: the only way to vote. Say no to machines. -
Video from an internal Diebold meeting
Discussing development of a Diebold E-Voting machine. Choice quotes:
"We've certified other things that weren't tested."
"I just want to be sure that this machine can add. Remember we've had machines recently that couldn't add"
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Re:Testing procedures?
If you want to see some info about their testing procedures... go to: safevoting.org
They SOMEHOW got their hands on video from a closed-door session between Diebold, and the texas secretary of state. Their machines DONT ADD PROPERLY, some people can VOTE TWICE, and they've done virtually NOTHING to fix the existing problems that their customers just happen to discover.
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Re:Testing procedures?
If you want to see some info about their testing procedures... go to: safevoting.org
They SOMEHOW got their hands on video from a closed-door session between Diebold, and the texas secretary of state. Their machines DONT ADD PROPERLY, some people can VOTE TWICE, and they've done virtually NOTHING to fix the existing problems that their customers just happen to discover.
Windows Media format
Quicktime format
let the slashdotting begin... -
Re:Testing procedures?
If you want to see some info about their testing procedures... go to: safevoting.org
They SOMEHOW got their hands on video from a closed-door session between Diebold, and the texas secretary of state. Their machines DONT ADD PROPERLY, some people can VOTE TWICE, and they've done virtually NOTHING to fix the existing problems that their customers just happen to discover.
Windows Media format
Quicktime format
let the slashdotting begin... -
Texas has problems too
Texas Safe Voting has a video on their site of election workers talking to a Diebold sales rep. It shows just how bad off we are with current evoting initatives. My favorite quote is "I just want to make sure this machine can add. Remember, we've had machines recently that didn't add."