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Someone on slashdot once said that they would spend 120% as much effort/resources on something if it employed technology as opposed to not...would this qualify perhaps, and if you sir are out there will you please stand up? I mean yes it took him more effort programming the damn thing than learning the subject but woudln't this also give him *programming experience* and therefor something more valuable than whatever it is he was learning?(although math is valuable.) So not only does this guy deserve credit, but he also did the smart thing...and i just saw lightning. mabye I should shut off my computer. hrm...

Excellent post, I'm keeping that in my personal documents collection as an example of well a thought out attempted rebuttle of the pillars of my worldview. some thoughts:

I'll take
(2)(information needs to be freed)
(3)(that's not the reason why I would potentially pirate, but I realize that many people do. acknowledgement of other peoples reasons and a reason why they are wrong does not make you a hypocrite, etc)
mabye's:
(12) sounds shady, but I don't really see that much wrong with it.
(11) THE PEOPLE do not 'demand' free entertainment. THE PEOPLE merely take it, as it is available to them. I demand free entertainment, that is freely available to all. this is not to say that I demand free entertainment, which should be freely available to all, but rather it is freely available to all allready, and this fact needs to merely be acknowledged.
(10) (if you ignore the 'it's my right' bit)
(6) mabye
(13) if you substitute Analogous to the word "like". This makes things a great deal more clear.
Brainless Copying vs Creative Works
Sure one can tell the difference. Consider it this way: People who brainlessly copy are similar to the average jo who, when they find a broken beer bottle or a macdonalds wrapper on their block, clean it up/throw it in a local garbage can. Whereas, when seen from this metephor, the creative artist is like the environmentalist, who actively runs a recycling co-op, or grows his own hemp, or the like. one makes the world a better place in small ways, the other, in larger. without each other, the whole gig is pointless. Without millions of people who are part of the great collective known as the internet, when an independant musician worthy of anyones attention comes around, they can now be heard by practically anyone within a week. This hasn't always been the case (see the 80s).


Most of my freinds would buy the CD anyway:
if I had, say, 50 freinds. and they all bought the dark side of the moon album
at 40$ per head that's 2000$
I wouldn't condemn the group of the 50 people I care most about to a
2000$ loss of funds. 2000$ can buy a lot of
bread, eggs and milk.

I am aware that this might be replied to with "but the artist spends say, 2000$ of his own to create the work...don't you want the artist to be able to afford eggs, bread and milk?" and this does not necessarily compete with this point. both could be the case, I'll leave that specific issue with this statement to be answered later on.

Filesharing is Illegal:
Sure. in some countries, sharing might be illegal. In some countries, freely voicing your opinion is illegal, too. does this mean that we should support the brutal repression of people freely expressing their opinion, because they are breaking the laws of their local despotic, non-elected government?

Semantic Blurring concerning "Information"/"Sharing": the term "Information Sharing" rightly blurs the line between existing, conservative, information and information that has yet to be legally shared. Just like the right to free press is really just a blurred misconception of the right to free speech. You can't have the later without the former, but you can have the former without the later.
GPL
Filesharing has the ability to become something bigger, and more important than even the GPL. The GPL is an important thing in a world filled with copyright and intellectual property law. Without copyright, and intellectual property law, the GPL is quickly overshone by, a contract that has yet to be named(to my knowledge), but could only be partially described by True Freedom. Perhaps "Information Anarchy"?(there is a book by this name on my to read list: I have not read it yet, so I am not able to comment on it yet beyond the fact that it exists)


"so that others don't have to pay for it"
completely misses the point. we don't share music to

There is no such thing is an unsolvable problem, in so far as you know something about it. If you know nothing about your problem, then you probably are in trouble, but we know a great deal about spam, who spams, why spam happens, where it comes from and so on.

For a start, how about, getting your government, in an attempt to slow the tide of spam, to help out the eastern european, or asian nations? To help them clean up corruption, and get a working socialist infractructure(ie, public schools, roads, healthcare ) so that people don't have to use spam as a means to get money, and furthermore encourage people not to be greedy scum(as opposed to the american culture of buy more! you need this this and that! you have to keep up with the Akkbars!). God only knows that the countries in eastern europe where this stuff is coming from need all the help they can get. Hell...help out the eastern european nations xor the asian nations and then use spam as a stick to hit the other with to offer them help.
Sure, this whole thing isn't soley about money and poor nations, but there's a strong correlation between poor nations without working government, and...spam. America counts. National ecconomics is at one root of this problem.

NOOoo let's...sue them! that's it... bastards can't afford to pay their bills so they sucker in some stupid white american scum into giving them their money. arrg

Seriously though:" Problems have solutions, you know?"

There is no such thing is an unsolvable problem, in so far as you know something about it. If you know nothing about your problem, then you probably are in trouble, but we know a great deal about spam, who spams, why spam happens, where it comes from and so on.

For a start, how about, getting your government, in an attempt to slow the tide of spam, to help out the eastern european, or asian nations? To help them clean up corruption, and get a working socialist infractructure(ie, public schools, roads, healthcare ) so that people don't have to use spam as a means to get money, and furthermore encourage people not to be greedy scum(as opposed to the american culture of buy more! you need this this and that! you have to keep up with the Akkbars!). God only knows that the countries in eastern europe where this stuff is coming from need all the help they can get. Hell...help out the eastern european nations xor the asian nations and then use spam as a stick to hit the other with to offer them help.
Sure, this whole thing isn't soley about money and poor nations, but there's a strong correlation between poor nations without working government, and...spam. America counts. National ecconomics is at one root of this problem.

NOOoo let's...sue them! that's it... bastards can't afford to pay their bills so they sucker in some stupid white american scum into giving them their money. arrg

Seriously though:" Problems have solutions, you know?"

and then you get the screwed up freaks who's main focus as far as freindship goes is 'a person who is not actively trying to kill or harm me in any way'. yes. that was my definition once upon a time. and i heard it echoed later on in a couple of places independant of my home town, once i found the internet. surely, the internet has changed the entire dynamics of freindship, as i thought that most of the people out there were totally against me, when in reality, they were just trying to save themselves face by picking on or just plain not supporting the freak. now with the internet the 'freaks' can 'team up' with eachother...so there HAS to be a new level of freindship screw-ed into the worldview of even the most unfreindly. right?

iff you take that initial 'free' automobile, and using star-trek technology make a million or so copies of it at no cost to the producer of the initial free car, then your analogy would make sense. as it stands, your analogy fails because it misses an important aspect.

Mu. the musician should not be upset

by the way, i do NOT download movies.(your last point falls on me)
but even if i DID, downloading movies is NOT illegal, breaching copyright is. get your laws straight.

actually honestly... i dont really see this as news either... and i'm wondering whether it is more important than ananything else they could have posted..but.. that they could have put but you have to admit it is a good question... but more importantly i do not see this as sexist at all. Women have sex too you know... and sex in itself is not an immature topic. Sure, it seems to be presented in a sort of immature sort of medium-intelligent-male point of view but it also asks a question that i'm sure like many other /.'ers i did not know the awnser to. but sex, in itself, is not immature, nor rude.
the real lameness would be refusing to post such an oddball unnexpected topic