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Agreed, the 5 rural phone companies I worked for up until mid-'05 have been doing triple play FTTN Phone, DSL, and Video since 2000. Our GTE, Bellsouth, Verizon, Alltel, and Windstream competitors constantly drug their feet rolling out dsl, much less the TV leg of the triple.

Yeah I work for these guys, but I'm also a user SCRTC

34.95/month for 2 streams of digital cable + 44.95/month for 768/384 DSL

Much better than that craptacular dish we had before, which went out every time the wind got above 20MPH or it rained.

And telephone as well, hundreds of Rural Telephone Co-ops are in the US because Ma Bell and/or GTE didn't want to provide service to small rural markets, like mine. Government subsidized loans to start, co-operative ownership, and now, the very best in services. We have a DSL, video, and Dial tone service that covers most of our service area (and we are expanding, dropping DSL heads every 12000' takes time), 80/month for 768/384, digital cable and landline phone is pretty good, plus you get a dividend check on any profits made by the phone company, I love it.

We have been doing video over ADSL for over 3 years now, it rocks. Basically you do OC-x connection every 20000' to a remote and feed the home phone, dsl, and 2 (or more) streams of video from it. All from a podunk rural co-op phone company.

See here for an example of rendering one XHTML page inside of another.

Actually it is the reverse, NS7 and Moz1.8a1 render the object tag, which is valid HTML4.0 strict/XHTML1.0 strict perfectly

NS4.80 does what it should when you can't render an object, render the content that the object surrounds

IE6sp1 fails to render the object or the alternative, see for yourself here.

I've mentioned it before but the local rural phone coops in my area (and that I work for in a round-about way) are doing this. This is the CLEC we are running in Elizabethtown, KY against Verizon/Alltel and Comcast. My phone company is the ILEC in Barren County and their service is very similar.

The only downside to our combined services (Voice/Data/TV) is to get the TV/DSL, you have to be within our ADSL range ~20000'. Inside the towns where the CO's exist is not a problem, but we have to drop a remote DSLAM/Video head every 6 miles to cover, which is both expensive and makes for a slow rollout.

It's happening today! Qwest has over 60k video subscribers in Phoenix and Denver. Qwest is supporting 3 video streams over a single settop box via VDSL. Up in Canada (Manitoba), MTS will be commercially rolling out video over VDSL in Winnipeg starting early next year. Our platform also supports video over ADSL, with the tradeoff that only 2 streams are supported rather than VDSL's 3 streams, though the reach is 11kft or more as opposed to VDSL's ~4kft from the remote terminal. Many of the independents have expressed interest in the ADSL platform, with SCRTC [this link doesn't work in Mozilla :(] having a few thousand subs online as of today I believe.

Basically the telcos are extremely motivated to find new revenue streams because their lunch (POTS) is being eaten by wireless providers and cable companies offering telephony. Unfortunately this desire is modulated by Wall St. taking an extremely dim view of CapEx spending with the economy in its present state.

I've never found a site that doesn't work with Mozilla.

Here's one.

It ain't vaporware, unless the truckload of nextlevel head-end equipment we unloaded Wednesday was all a dream. If you live in between and Louisville, KY and the Tennesse line on I-65 and you use one of the Co-ops Brandenburg Telephone, Duo County, South Central, North Central, or Logan telephone, and live within 19,000ft of the CO, you can get dsl, video, and phone over the same pair of copper that your telephone comes in on now.