Domain: speedtrap.org
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Re:Don't let the States hear about this
Indiana has a state, county and city tax. And we have an innkeepers tax which screws our visitors who stay at hotels/motels. Stay OUT of this grubby little town and you'll be better off.
http://www.in.gov/dor/index.htm
Marion County Innkeepers' Tax -- Effective Sept. 1, 2009, the Marion County Innkeepers' Tax, which includes the city of Indianapolis, will increase from 9 percent to 10 percent for the rental of accommodations provided for less than 30 days in Marion County.7% sales and 1% or 2% 'beverage' tax. RV/boat/car/commercial vehicle tax which varies widely and vary if new or used.
Buried where I can't find it counties can add sales tax of some amount. Utility sales tax. Vehicle rental sales tax. Gasoline sales tax.
http://www.in.gov/dor/3504.htmThen there's the random driving tax.
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There is such thing as logic, which doesnt need it
You do realize that speed limits are not accurate, right? The only reason they are there is to monetize away your driving privileges that they granted to you in the first place. In reality, the minute you have a drivers license, you just lost a ton of rights on the US.
If people realize that the reason the world goes 80 instead because that is the natural point that people feel safe to drive given current conditions and someone wasn't driving in the fast lane (going excessively slow and causing the feedback), such a situation wouldn't occur.
Exactly as someone else said, this is not automotive specific, and the only solution to excess feedback is to reduce whatever is slowing things down, not to "slow things down further". If roads were unrestricted for speeds and had more lanes people would go 100+ more frequently (and more safely), of course roads would wear faster among other things like that.
Additionally, this feedback driving creates a "safety-minded" driver, aka someone who drives so slow in the snow/rain/etc that it creates pileups for hours. "I see a drop of rain on my windshield = lets drive 15 under the limit (as if the limit wasnt bad enough)" = feedback at its finest. -
Re:In the UK we've gone way beyond this.
http://www.speedtrap.org/speedtraps/stetlist.asp
if you get "tagged" and the place is listed you may want to bring that up at court -
You win, but not by much.
Quick and Easy calculation:
Foale returned to Earth after spending 145 days in space, 134 of them aboard Mir. His estimated mileage logged was 58 million miles (93 million kilometers), can be used for an estimate of miles / days, which is in one day the shuttle does 400K miles (or .4 MILLION miles /day.). A typical mission is between 10 to 16 days. Lets use 10 days. That is then 4 millions miles on one mission. Assuming that 50 missions before the mishap, then it becomes 200 Million miles before 7 deaths.
Checking the data down below here, you will find that cars have one half the rate of the shuttle. IOW, the shuttle is more dangerous, but not by that much. And that does not consider the speed or the usefullness of the shuttle.
I would trust NASA and the shuttle. -
Re:We SORELY Need this Technology in the US
Or, perhaps, it's because so many of the citizens dogs are getting run over by outsiders rocketing through town, and parents of five year olds are becoming worried.
...and thus we illustrate the classic "straw man" fallacy. I didn't claim that ALL small town speed limits were too low, I said that some of them are. Are you actually trying to claim that there isn't a single 20 or 30 mph zone in the entire country that was set that way specfically to make money for the town?
If that's so then why do so many states have laws passed to deal with this problem?
The reality is that a lot of towns deliberately set their speed limits too low so they have a nearly endless supply of speeders to make money from. Especially in my state, which doesn't have laws to deal with this problem. -
okay, here's a decent one.
not all states are listed, lots of legalese, but you should be able to filter through some of it.
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Re:An ineffective stanceI have always considered speeding a form of voting. If everyone goes 10 MPH over the speed limit in a certain spot, then they should raise the speed limit there.
This is why speed traps aren't legal in many places. Police know where people are going to speed (downhill, or where the speed limit is rediculously low, or where the speed limit sign is covered up) and nab them there. But many states see that as an abuse of police power.
Filesharing is similar. If everyone is doing it, then it shouldn't be illegal. It should be taken as the will of the people that it should be allowed.
Before you flame about "if everyone was a murder would it be OK to kill people?" I'm not saying that. Not everyone is a murderer, so thankfully we don't have to debate that.
Another example is trespassing. If private property gets traversed consistently by the public, such that a path gets created, and the private property owner doesn't do anything about it, that path becomes a right of way. This is, of course, why the recording industry is trying to enforce the current laws, so they can say "We tried to stop them."
So let's get the laws changed! Yes, the artists and the recording industry need to make some money. So they should figure out a way to incorporate file sharing into that scheme. And let us get on trading files, and them get on making money.
All this squabbling will get us nowhere (or should I post that in the Iraq war thread?)
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Re:This will never happenNo, I didn't mean to suggest that they would try to ban the entire concept, but I wouldn't bet the ranch that flashing your lights to warn of speedtraps is entirely legal either -- unenforceable, of course, but that's not at all the same thing. It's a reach, but the phrase "obstruction of justice" comes to mind, as well as things like "interfering with a police officer in the performance of his duties".
There is a site warning of speedtraps: SpeedTrap.org, and obviously it's still there. On the other hand, it's not running in realtime, and there's no way to know perxactly where and when contributions are being made. If I'm entering stuff right there in Podunk County and in view of a righteously indignant police officer, jurisdictional issues are suddenly resolved.
No legit usage for radar detectors? I don't own one, but I have to differ with you here. I find it strange that they can take me to court on the basis of a machine that I'm explicitly barred from detecting. Maybe the dmaned thing wasn't even switched on -- it's strictly the cop's word on it. I'd like to think that a police officer's word is good, or at least worth more to him than a lousy ticket, but it still bothers me.