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Re:Linux has more unpatched security issues
NASDAQ says otherwise, since 2005, with Windows Server + SQLServer failover clusters running their "official trade data dissemination system" http://blog.sqlauthority.com/2007/09/17/sqlauthority-news-nasdaq-uses-sql-server-2005-reducing-costs-through-better-data-management/ . There's also many others doing "real things" with Windows, & you can see them at MS' "get the facts" pages studies if you wish.
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gottabeme on "honesty" (not) & hypocrisy (LOL)
It's not Linux being used for that @ NASDAQ, fact!
"Yeah, it's only what Google, Yahoo, Facebook, NYSE, NASDAQ, etc. use on their servers - by gottabeme (590848) on Wednesday July 06, @08:16AM (#36670630)
FROM -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2282088&cid=36670630
Instead - Try it's Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer acting as "the OFFICIAL TRADE DATA DISSEMINATION SYSTEM" @ NASDAQ instead!
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NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005:
http://www.windowsfs.com/enews/nasdaq-migrates-to-sql-server-2005
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and here:
NASDAQ Uses SQL Server 2005 Ã" Reducing Costs through Better Data Management:
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(In fact, It's been running 24x7 in fail-over clusters for coming up on a DECADE NOW in fact... check the Microsoft "GET THE FACTS" pages @ MS!)
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"Until you're willing to argue logically and honestly, we can't make any progress in the discussion." - by gottabeme (590848) on Wednesday July 06, @08:27AM (#36670680)
Yea... tell me about it, & call me a hypocrite again!
(E.G./I.E.-> I called you a liar, because you ARE A LIAR on NASDAQ running Linux (epsecially when it fell "agreus style" FLAT ON ITS FACE 2nd day on the job @ LSE!)).
I call a spade, a spade... simple!
You can "redeem yourself" (lol, not - your blunder on NASDAQ alone blew you away)!
Go on... Prove the data from SECUNIA.COM on Linux unpatched security vulnerabilities is indeed, inaccurate - show us the CVE's you said that show they are patched!
I suspect that's another LIE from you, and you talked of "honesty"?? Please...
Again - "Put up, or SHUT UP"...
( & not your inaccurate LIES about things... I want to see CVE data that shows the data from SECUNIA is inaccurate!)
APK
P.S.=> "Put up or SHUT UP" & no more NASDAQ lies... or what I suspect is yet another lie out of you here next:
PROVE IT, because YOU SAID THIS:
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"Secunia's statistics are incorrect and out-of-date. I checked some of the CVEs for Linux, and Secunia lists them as unpatched, while Googling the CVEs shows that they were patched a long time ago." - by gottabeme (590848) on Sunday July 03, @09:44PM (#36649602)
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Prove it... Show us that data then - why do you keep "RUNNING" from doing that? Because it's another LIE from you, like the one on NASDAQ??
In fact - I can show EASY workarounds for the 2 remote errs in Windows (they don't affect home PC's even if they're setup right for security, that is, or even corporate workstations) the same for the 3 local ones...
(Funny part is 1 is caused by Apple softwares!)
* SO - Can you show the same for the 17++ errors in Linux, WHICH DO HAVE A REMOTE SECURITY VULNERABILITY UNPATCHED ALSO! Because I can show this, from a source YOU TRIED TO USE WITH STALE OLD DATA from 2004, & here is more current info. on that note:
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/06/10/domains_lamped/
PERTINENT QUOTE:
"Phishers compromise LAMP-based websites for days at a time and hit the same victims over and over again, according to an Anti-Phishing Working Group survey. Sites built on Linux, Apache, MySQL and PHP are the favoured targets of phishing attackers"
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... apk
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"Run, Forrest - RUN!!!" Part #3... lol! apk
It's not Linux being used for that @ NASDAQ, fact!
"Yeah, it's only what Google, Yahoo, Facebook, NYSE, NASDAQ, etc. use on their servers - by gottabeme (590848) on Wednesday July 06, @08:16AM (#36670630)
FROM -> http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2282088&cid=36670630
Instead - Try it's Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer acting as "the OFFICIAL TRADE DATA DISSEMINATION SYSTEM" @ NASDAQ instead!
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NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005:
http://www.windowsfs.com/enews/nasdaq-migrates-to-sql-server-2005
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and here:
NASDAQ Uses SQL Server 2005 Ã" Reducing Costs through Better Data Management:
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(In fact, It's been running 24x7 in fail-over clusters for coming up on a DECADE NOW in fact... check the Microsoft "GET THE FACTS" pages @ MS!)
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"Until you're willing to argue logically and honestly, we can't make any progress in the discussion." - by gottabeme (590848) on Wednesday July 06, @08:27AM (#36670680)
Yea... tell me about it, & call me a hypocrite again (I called you a liar, because you ARE A LIAR on NASDAQ running Linux (epsecially when it fell "agreus style" FLAT ON ITS FACE 2nd day on the job @ LSE!)). I call a spade, a spade... simple!
You can "redeem yourself"... prove the data from SECUNIA.COM on Linux unpatched security vulnerabilities is indeed, inaccurate - show us the CVE's you said that show they are patched!
Again - "Put up, or SHUT UP"...
( & not your inaccurate LIES about things... I want to see CVE data that shows the data from SECUNIA is inaccurate!)
APK
P.S.=> "Put up or SHUT UP" & no more NASDAQ lies... or what I suspect is yet another lie out of you here next:
PROVE IT, because YOU SAID THIS:
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"Secunia's statistics are incorrect and out-of-date. I checked some of the CVEs for Linux, and Secunia lists them as unpatched, while Googling the CVEs shows that they were patched a long time ago." - by gottabeme (590848) on Sunday July 03, @09:44PM (#36649602)
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Prove it... Show us that data then - why do you keep "RUNNING" from doing that? Because it's another LIE from you, like the one on NASDAQ??
In fact - I can show EASY workarounds for the 2 remote errs in Windows (they don't affect home PC's even if they're setup right for security, that is, or even corporate workstations) the same for the 3 local ones...
(Funny part is 1 is caused by Apple softwares!)
* SO - Can you show the same for the 17++ errors in Linux, WHICH DO HAVE A REMOTE SECURITY VULNERABILITY UNPATCHED ALSO! Because I can show this, from a source YOU TRIED TO USE WITH STALE OLD DATA from 2004, & here is more current info. on that note:
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/06/10/domains_lamped/
PERTINENT QUOTE:
"Phishers compromise LAMP-based websites for days at a time and hit the same victims over and over again, according to an Anti-Phishing Working Group survey. Sites built on Linux, Apache, MySQL and PHP are the favoured targets of phishing attackers"
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... apk
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"Put up, or SHUT UP" & no more NASDAQ lies
Yes, you DO have to prove this:
"I already explained how Secunia is not a valid source for your arguments. I don't need to refute its data because it itself is invalid." - by gottabeme (590848) on Wednesday July 06, @08:16AM (#36670630)
Ok, "sure" (sarcasm) - PROVE IT, because YOU SAID THIS BEFORE THAT:
"Secunia's statistics are incorrect and out-of-date. I checked some of the CVEs for Linux, and Secunia lists them as unpatched, while Googling the CVEs shows that they were patched a long time ago." - by gottabeme (590848) on Sunday July 03, @09:44PM (#36649602)
Prove it... show us that data then - why do you keep "RUNNING" from doing that? Because it's another LIE from you, like the one on NASDAQ?? (See below).
In fact - I can show EASY workarounds for the 2 remote errs in Windows (they don't affect home PC's even if they're setup right for security, that is, or even corporate workstations) the same for the 3 local ones...
(Funny part is 1 is caused by Apple softwares!)
* SO - Can you show the same for the 17++ errors in Linux, WHICH DO HAVE A REMOTE SECURITY VULNERABILITY UNPATCHED ALSO!
APK
P.S.=> Or, are you going to be as "accurate" as you were ABOUT NASDAQ USING LINUX?
See here on that account folks & get read to laugh:
"Yeah, it's only what Google, Yahoo, Facebook, NYSE, NASDAQ, etc. use on their servers - by gottabeme (590848) on Wednesday July 06, @08:16AM (#36670630)
Instead - Try it's Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer acting as "the OFFICIAL TRADE DATA DISSEMINATION SYSTEM" @ NASDAQ instead!
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NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005:
http://www.windowsfs.com/enews/nasdaq-migrates-to-sql-server-2005
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and here:
NASDAQ Uses SQL Server 2005 â" Reducing Costs through Better Data Management:
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(In fact, It's been running 24x7 in fail-over clusters for coming up on a DECADE NOW in fact... check the Microsoft "GET THE FACTS" pages @ MS!)
"Put up, or SHUT UP"... & not your inaccurate LIES about things... I want to see CVE data that shows the data from SECUNIA is inaccurate!
... apk
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How'd Linux do @ LSE & NASDAQ?
IT FAILED 2nd DAY ON THE JOB:
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NOW on NASDAQ?
WRONG - Where you said NASDAQ uses Linux? Oh, really?? LMAO (wrong):
"Yeah, it's only what Google, Yahoo, Facebook, NYSE, NASDAQ, etc. use on their servers
- by gottabeme (590848) on Wednesday July 06, @08:16AM (#36670630)
Instead - Try it's Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer acting as "the OFFICIAL TRADE DATA DISSEMINATION SYSTEM" @ NASDAQ instead!
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NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005:
http://www.windowsfs.com/enews/nasdaq-migrates-to-sql-server-2005
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and here:
NASDAQ Uses SQL Server 2005 â" Reducing Costs through Better Data Management:
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(In fact, It's been running 24x7 in fail-over clusters for coming up on a DECADE NOW in fact... check the Microsoft "GET THE FACTS" pages @ MS!)
* Man... LMAO!
APK
P.S.=> Small wonder it's also doing "SO WELL" here too on this note as a server also:
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/06/10/domains_lamped/
PERTINENT QUOTE:
"Phishers compromise LAMP-based websites for days at a time and hit the same victims over and over again, according to an Anti-Phishing Working Group survey. Sites built on Linux, Apache, MySQL and PHP are the favoured targets of phishing attackers"
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... apk
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Proofs of how NASDAQ uses MS OS & servers... a
"MS also has a case study showing that SQL Server is used by NASDAQ not in the real-time transactions but in reporting after the trade" - by UnknowingFool (672806) on Monday October 25, @10:28AM (#34011858)
Correction: You failed to see that I wrote that MS' OS is used as "the official trade data dissemination system", @ NASDAQ, because that is what I said it acted as there, and in a stable 24x7 uptime fashion, and that is all... and yes, I have proofs below.
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http://www.microsoft.com/sqlserver/2005/en/us/cs-financial-roi.aspx?pf=true
"NASDAQ Deploys SQL Server 2005 to Support Real-Time Trade Booking and Queries"
NASDAQ, which became the worlds first electronic stock market in 1971, and remains the largest U.S. electronic stock market, is constantly looking for more-efficient ways to serve its members. As the organization prepared to retire its aging large mainframe computers, it deployed Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 on two 4-node clusters to support its Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade that is processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through the MDDS system, with SQL Server 2005 handling some 5,000 transactions per second at market open. SQL Server 2005 simultaneously handles about 100,000 queries a day, using SQL Server 2005 Snapshot Isolation to support real-time queries against the data without slowing the database. NASDAQ is enjoying a lower total cost of ownership compared to the large mainframe computer system that the SQL Server 2005 deployment has replaced."
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NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005:
http://windowsfs.com/enews/nasdaq-migrates-to-sql-server-2005
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NASDAQ Uses SQL Server 2005 - Reducing Costs through Better Data Management:
"NASDAQ, the worlds first electronic stock market replaced its aging mainframe computers with Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 on two 4-node clusters to support its Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through the system with Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 handling some 5,000 transactions per second at market open. The system also responds to about 10,000 queries a day and is able to handle real-time queries against data without slowing the database down."
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So, there you are: Evidence(s) of MS doing well for NASDAQ acting as the "official trade data dissemination system" there, and doing so stably also... &, if you saw that video @ youtube I put up in my 1st post you replied to? You'd see that is how it was used at LSE also (the main man intereviewed stated it thus no less).
I had posted this data years ago here http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1290967&cid=28571315 and even begore that, but the Linux "FUD" still goes on (and surprise, surprise: I am also a Linux fan as well (kernel 2.6.35/KUbuntu 10.10 64-bit user here daily, in a dual boot configuration alongside Windows 7 64-bit). I just don't like when the "Penguins" around here attempt to spread disinformation/misinformation.
P.S.=> So, again, & in agreement with the man I replied to: Personally, & especially based on the evidences here (the thread topic itself, & the NASDAQ data I just provided here)?
Well - I think a great deal of stability & uptime has to do a LOT with the skills of those architecting a system, first, AND later those that have the task of maintaining it also (this means the network engineering staff AND coding t
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NASDAQTRADER not owned by MS, are they?
1.) NASDAQTRADER said NASDAQ has 99.999% uptime.
2.) NASDAQ uses Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer 2005 for its OFFICIAL TRADE DATA DISSEMINATION SYSTEM.
3.) NASDAQTRADER could not state the 99.999% uptime for NASDAQ if Microsoft products could not maintain it as well, because it is one of their major systems... period!
I only stated that, from an article no less that shows it here -> http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/Trader.aspx?id=MarketShare [nasdaqtrader.com]
"NASDAQ is renowned for its high performance technology and has proven reliability with 99.999+% uptime. Whats more, firms count on NASDAQ for unsurpassed speed and tested capacity to execute trades quickly and efficiently."
That Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer 2005 in combination, power the OFFICIAL TRADE DATA DISSEMINATION SYSTEM, that's all... do you have problems reading? Honestly, if you do, I will understand... AND?
THAT that combination runs @ a 5k - 10k tpm rate 24x7 per this article ->
http://www.microsoft.com/sqlserver/2005/en/us/cs-financial-roi.aspx?pf=true [microsoft.com] [microsoft.com] [microsoft.com] [microsoft.com] [microsoft.com]
"NASDAQ Deploys SQL Server 2005 to Support Real-Time Trade Booking and Queries
As the organization prepared to retire its aging large mainframe computers, it deployed Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 on two 4-node clusters to support its Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade that is processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through the MDDS system, with SQL Server 2005 handling some 5,000 transactions per second at market open. SQL Server 2005 simultaneously handles about 100,000 queries a day, using SQL Server 2005 Snapshot Isolation to support real-time queries against the data without slowing the database. NASDAQ is enjoying a lower total cost of ownership compared to the large mainframe computer system that the SQL Server 2005 deployment has replaced."
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Every trade processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through the system with Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 handling some 5,000 transactions per second at market open.
The system also responds to about 10,000 queries a day and is able to handle real-time queries against data without slowing the database downAPK
P.S.=> NASDAQTRADER is not owned by Microsoft, are they? apk
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NASDAQ another Stock Exchange does well
"Stock Exchange, like many transaction based business, needs real time systems and Windows 2003 plus SQL" - by ihavenospine (541249) on Friday July 03, @09:52AM (#28571113)
Correct, & agreed, 110% (with evidence thereof): NASDAQ is an example of this, & yes - NASDAQ has maintained the "fabled '5-9's" of 99.999% uptime on Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer 2005 (in failover clusters) since late 2005, acting as the official dissemination system of official trade data:
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FIRST - the actual PROOF of that "stability/uptime":
http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/Trader.aspx?id=MarketShare
"NASDAQ is renowned for its high performance technology and has proven reliability with 99.999+% uptime. Whats more, firms count on NASDAQ for unsurpassed speed and tested capacity to execute trades quickly and efficiently."
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NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005:
http://windowsfs.com/enews/nasdaq-migrates-to-sql-server-2005
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NASDAQ Uses SQL Server 2005 - Reducing Costs through Better Data Management:
"NASDAQ, the worlds first electronic stock market replaced its aging mainframe computers with Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 on two 4-node clusters to support its Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through the system with Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 handling some 5,000 transactions per second at market open. The system also responds to about 10,000 queries a day and is able to handle real-time queries against data without slowing the database down."
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Case Studies - Financial Services:
http://www.microsoft.com/sqlserver/2005/en/us/cs-financial-roi.aspx?pf=true [microsoft.com] [microsoft.com] [microsoft.com] [microsoft.com]
"NASDAQ Deploys SQL Server 2005 to Support Real-Time Trade Booking and Queries
NASDAQ, which became the worlds first electronic stock market in 1971, and remains the largest U.S. electronic stock market, is constantly looking for more-efficient ways to serve its members. As the organization prepared to retire its aging large mainframe computers, it deployed Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 on two 4-node clusters to support its Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade that is processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through the MDDS system, with SQL Server 2005 handling some 5,000 transactions per second at market open. SQL Server 2005 simultaneously handles about 100,000 queries a day, using SQL Server 2005 Snapshot Isolation to support real-time queries against the data without slowing the database. NASDAQ is enjoying a lower total cost of ownership compared to the large mainframe computer system that the SQL Server 2005 deployment has replaced."
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AND, "There ya are"... Evidence of the possible stability, security, & speed on Windows, AND, in a high tpm environs (and, in a Stock Exchange, specifically)...
(Keeping stable & running F A S T, + "24x7", & for 1/2 a decade++ going strong, acting as the official trade data dissemination system for NASDAQ!)
APK
P.S.=> Personally, & especially based on the evidences here (the thread topic itself, & the NASDAQ data I just provided here)?
Well - I think a great deal of stability & uptime has to do a LOT with the skills of those architecting a system, first, AND later those that have the task of maintaining it also (this means the network engin
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NASDAQ going on 5++ yrs. stable on Windows
"Looking at other exchanges, there are trading platforms that have been able to last 10+ years while scaling quite well." - by Jerky McNaughty (1391) on Friday July 03, @09:40AM (#28571007)
NASDAQ is an example of this, & yes: NASDAQ has maintained the "fabled '5-9's" of 99.999% uptime on Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer 2005 (in failover clusters) since late 2005, acting as the official dissemination system of official trade data:
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NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005:
http://windowsfs.com/enews/nasdaq-migrates-to-sql-server-2005
&/or
NASDAQ Uses SQL Server 2005 - Reducing Costs through Better Data Management:
"NASDAQ, the worlds first electronic stock market replaced its aging mainframe computers with Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 on two 4-node clusters to support its Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through the system with Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 handling some 5,000 transactions per second at market open. The system also responds to about 10,000 queries a day and is able to handle real-time queries against data without slowing the database down."
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Case Studies - Financial Services:
http://www.microsoft.com/sqlserver/2005/en/us/cs-financial-roi.aspx?pf=true [microsoft.com] [microsoft.com] [microsoft.com] [microsoft.com]
"NASDAQ Deploys SQL Server 2005 to Support Real-Time Trade Booking and Queries
NASDAQ, which became the worlds first electronic stock market in 1971, and remains the largest U.S. electronic stock market, is constantly looking for more-efficient ways to serve its members. As the organization prepared to retire its aging large mainframe computers, it deployed Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 on two 4-node clusters to support its Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade that is processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through the MDDS system, with SQL Server 2005 handling some 5,000 transactions per second at market open. SQL Server 2005 simultaneously handles about 100,000 queries a day, using SQL Server 2005 Snapshot Isolation to support real-time queries against the data without slowing the database. NASDAQ is enjoying a lower total cost of ownership compared to the large mainframe computer system that the SQL Server 2005 deployment has replaced."
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NOW - the actual PROOF of that "stability/uptime":
http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/Trader.aspx?id=MarketShare
"NASDAQ is renowned for its high performance technology and has proven reliability with 99.999+% uptime. Whats more, firms count on NASDAQ for unsurpassed speed and tested capacity to execute trades quickly and efficiently."
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AND, "There ya are"... Evidence of the possible stability, security, & speed on Windows, in a high tpm environs, keeping stable & running F A S T 24x7 for 1/2 a decade++ going strong, acting as the official trade data dissemination system for NASDAQ!
APK
P.S.=? Personally, & especially based on the evidences here (the thread topic itself, & the NASDAQ data I just provided here)? Well - I think a great deal of stability & uptime has to do a LOT with the skills of those architecting a system, first, AND later those that have the task of maintaining it also (this means the network engineering staff AND coding teams around said projects), as well as their personal work-ethics - not so much on the Opera
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Got proof of MacOS X running a stock exchange?
"OSX *can* pull five nines. it's only on windows where five nines of reliability are fabled." - by RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) on Tuesday June 23, @03:00PM (#28443103)
Fabled? Not really! AND??
This is no mere "FABLE", but instead, reality (provable, concrete, & verifiable reality):
NASDAQ proves it... of course, this is also contingent upon the team adminning it as well (keep this in mind, with ANY OS)
Here is an example of NASDAQ's uptime, AND stability, in a high tpm environs, industrially (using Windows no less):
NASDAQ keeps on running 24x7, into the fabled "5-9's" of 99.999% uptime using Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer 2005 (in failover clusters) since late 2005, acting as the official dissemination system of official trade data:
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NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005:
http://windowsfs.com/enews/nasdaq-migrates-to-sql-server-2005
&/or
NASDAQ Uses SQL Server 2005 - Reducing Costs through Better Data Management:
"NASDAQ, the worlds first electronic stock market replaced its aging mainframe computers with Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 on two 4-node clusters to support its Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through the system with Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 handling some 5,000 transactions per second at market open. The system also responds to about 10,000 queries a day and is able to handle real-time queries against data without slowing the database down."
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Case Studies - Financial Services:
http://www.microsoft.com/sqlserver/2005/en/us/cs-financial-roi.aspx?pf=true
"NASDAQ Deploys SQL Server 2005 to Support Real-Time Trade Booking and Queries
NASDAQ, which became the worlds first electronic stock market in 1971, and remains the largest U.S. electronic stock market, is constantly looking for more-efficient ways to serve its members. As the organization prepared to retire its aging large mainframe computers, it deployed Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 on two 4-node clusters to support its Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade that is processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through the MDDS system, with SQL Server 2005 handling some 5,000 transactions per second at market open. SQL Server 2005 simultaneously handles about 100,000 queries a day, using SQL Server 2005 Snapshot Isolation to support real-time queries against the data without slowing the database. NASDAQ is enjoying a lower total cost of ownership compared to the large mainframe computer system that the SQL Server 2005 deployment has replaced."
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SO, that all "said & aside" - You want PROOF of that "stability/uptime", you say?
OK, see here -> http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/Trader.aspx?id=MarketShare
"NASDAQ is renowned for its high performance technology and has proven reliability with 99.999+% uptime. Whats more, firms count on NASDAQ for unsurpassed speed and tested capacity to execute trades quickly and efficiently."
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What I'd like to see is actual proof of MacOS X pulling that "fabled '5-9's", albeit in a HIGH TPM environs that has run for 1/2 decade++ or more, & just as stably + secure as NASDAQ has seen...
You have me wrong I think (& my replies MAY have given you that impression):
I don't "hate *NIX"!
In fact, it, along with VAX's VMS (on a VAX-1180 in the early to mid 1980's) is where I started i
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Re:Upgraded
"No Windows system is stable that long at a time" - by T Murphy (1054674) on Monday May 11, @11:45AM (#27907843)
NASDAQ says, & proves, quite otherwise!
Here is an example of NASDAQ's uptime, AND stability, in a high tpm environs, industrially (using Windows no less):
NASDAQ keeps on running 24x7, into the fabled "5-9's" of 99.999% uptime using Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer 2005 (in failover clusters) since late 2005, acting as the official dissemination system of official trade data:
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NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005:
http://windowsfs.com/enews/nasdaq-migrates-to-sql-server-2005 [windowsfs.com] [windowsfs.com]
&/or
NASDAQ Uses SQL Server 2005 - Reducing Costs through Better Data Management:
http://blog.sqlauthority.com/2007/09/17/sqlauthority-news-nasdaq-uses-sql-server-2005-reducing-costs-through-better-data-management/ [sqlauthority.com] [sqlauthority.com]
"NASDAQ, the worlds first electronic stock market replaced its aging mainframe computers with Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 on two 4-node clusters to support its Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through the system with Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 handling some 5,000 transactions per second at market open. The system also responds to about 10,000 queries a day and is able to handle real-time queries against data without slowing the database down."
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Case Studies - Financial Services:
http://www.microsoft.com/sqlserver/2005/en/us/cs-financial-roi.aspx?pf=true [microsoft.com] [microsoft.com] [microsoft.com]
"NASDAQ Deploys SQL Server 2005 to Support Real-Time Trade Booking and Queries
NASDAQ, which became the worlds first electronic stock market in 1971, and remains the largest U.S. electronic stock market, is constantly looking for more-efficient ways to serve its members. As the organization prepared to retire its aging large mainframe computers, it deployed Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 on two 4-node clusters to support its Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade that is processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through the MDDS system, with SQL Server 2005 handling some 5,000 transactions per second at market open. SQL Server 2005 simultaneously handles about 100,000 queries a day, using SQL Server 2005 Snapshot Isolation to support real-time queries against the data without slowing the database. NASDAQ is enjoying a lower total cost of ownership compared to the large mainframe computer system that the SQL Server 2005 deployment has replaced."
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SO, that all "said & aside" - You want PROOF of that "stability/uptime", you say?
OK, see here -> http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/Trader.aspx?id=MarketShare [nasdaqtrader.com] [nasdaqtrader.com] [nasdaqtrader.com]
"NASDAQ is renowned for its high performance technology and has proven reliability with 99.999+% uptime. Whats more, firms count on NASDAQ for unsurpassed speed and tested capacity to execute trades quickly and efficiently."
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So much for your humor... because, in the end? That's ALL it is... poor humor.
APK
P.S.=> I'm going to take a risk, & assume you're another "Pro-*NIX" sheep - &, thus, that you're ignorant of HOW to keep a Windows system running in a stable high performing fashion... &, yes, that happens. Stability, security, AND performance often are determined by the person(s) running the Windows (or even *NIX variant systems) & taking care of/administering them... apk
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Re:Wait a second... Yes, regarding Windows
"The sad thing about Windows NT is that the design was pretty good, the implementation was OK, but the default security policy is totally useless" - by Jacques Chester (151652) on Tuesday April 28, @06:32AM (#27743403)
That's PRETTY EASILY ALTERED (well, IF you have a basic understanding of what's going on, userrights + ACL's &/or PORTS wise (IANA lists & NTFS + Registry level security etc. et al)), & the CIS Tool, a multiplatform "benchmark" of security compliance, based on "industry best practices", no less, & that's well respected enough for that purpose!
(CIS Tool truly makes it as simple as it gets to do MOST of what's needed for securing a Windows NT-based OS easily (and, other OS platforms also)... the evidence thereof, from an end-user's results after applying it (& more) shows that cleanly enough).
First though?
An example of uptime, AND stability, in a high tpm environs, industrially:
NASDAQ keeps on running 24x7, into the fabled "5-9's" of 99.999% uptime using Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer 2005 (in failover clusters) since late 2005, acting as the official dissemination system of official trade data:
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NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005:
http://windowsfs.com/enews/nasdaq-migrates-to-sql-server-2005 [windowsfs.com]
&/or
NASDAQ Uses SQL Server 2005 - Reducing Costs through Better Data Management:
http://blog.sqlauthority.com/2007/09/17/sqlauthority-news-nasdaq-uses-sql-server-2005-reducing-costs-through-better-data-management/ [sqlauthority.com]
"NASDAQ, the worlds first electronic stock market replaced its aging mainframe computers with Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 on two 4-node clusters to support its Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through the system with Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 handling some 5,000 transactions per second at market open. The system also responds to about 10,000 queries a day and is able to handle real-time queries against data without slowing the database down."
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Case Studies - Financial Services:
http://www.microsoft.com/sqlserver/2005/en/us/cs-financial-roi.aspx?pf=true [microsoft.com] [microsoft.com]
"NASDAQ Deploys SQL Server 2005 to Support Real-Time Trade Booking and Queries
NASDAQ, which became the worlds first electronic stock market in 1971, and remains the largest U.S. electronic stock market, is constantly looking for more-efficient ways to serve its members. As the organization prepared to retire its aging large mainframe computers, it deployed Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 on two 4-node clusters to support its Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade that is processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through the MDDS system, with SQL Server 2005 handling some 5,000 transactions per second at market open. SQL Server 2005 simultaneously handles about 100,000 queries a day, using SQL Server 2005 Snapshot Isolation to support real-time queries against the data without slowing the database. NASDAQ is enjoying a lower total cost of ownership compared to the large mainframe computer system that the SQL Server 2005 deployment has replaced."
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SO, that all "said & aside" - You want PROOF of that "stability/uptime", you say?
OK, see here -> http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/Trader.aspx?id=MarketShare [nasdaqtrader.com] [nasdaqtrader.com]
"NASDAQ is renowned for its high performance technology and has proven reliability with 99.999+% uptime. Whats more, firms count on NASDAQ fo
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Re:Wait a second... Definitely: Read here vs. that
"I thought Windows was secure. Why not use that? *cough* *cough*" - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 28, @05:30AM (#27743003)
Yes, why not? Especially w/ results like these (from BOTH 'end users', & from a high tpm (transactions per minute) industrial environs):
NASDAQ keeps on running 24x7, into the fabled "5-9's" of 99.999% uptime using Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer 2005 (in failover clusters) since late 2005, acting as the official dissemination system of official trade data:
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NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005:
http://windowsfs.com/enews/nasdaq-migrates-to-sql-server-2005
&/or
NASDAQ Uses SQL Server 2005 - Reducing Costs through Better Data Management:
"NASDAQ, the worlds first electronic stock market replaced its aging mainframe computers with Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 on two 4-node clusters to support its Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through the system with Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 handling some 5,000 transactions per second at market open. The system also responds to about 10,000 queries a day and is able to handle real-time queries against data without slowing the database down."
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Case Studies - Financial Services:
http://www.microsoft.com/sqlserver/2005/en/us/cs-financial-roi.aspx?pf=true [microsoft.com]
"NASDAQ Deploys SQL Server 2005 to Support Real-Time Trade Booking and Queries
NASDAQ, which became the worlds first electronic stock market in 1971, and remains the largest U.S. electronic stock market, is constantly looking for more-efficient ways to serve its members. As the organization prepared to retire its aging large mainframe computers, it deployed Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 on two 4-node clusters to support its Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade that is processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through the MDDS system, with SQL Server 2005 handling some 5,000 transactions per second at market open. SQL Server 2005 simultaneously handles about 100,000 queries a day, using SQL Server 2005 Snapshot Isolation to support real-time queries against the data without slowing the database. NASDAQ is enjoying a lower total cost of ownership compared to the large mainframe computer system that the SQL Server 2005 deployment has replaced."
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SO, that all "said & aside" - You want PROOF of that "stability/uptime", you say?
OK, see here -> http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/Trader.aspx?id=MarketShare [nasdaqtrader.com]
"NASDAQ is renowned for its high performance technology and has proven reliability with 99.999+% uptime. Whats more, firms count on NASDAQ for unsurpassed speed and tested capacity to execute trades quickly and efficiently."
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AND, now, from an end-user's perspective, once Windows has been "security-hardened" (& CIS Tool helps make THAT an 'easier job' for end-users too)?
See this -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=e8281208df2ccba74470d6c68e047d40&t=28430&page=3
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"ts 2009 - still trouble free!
I was told last week by a co worker who does active directory administration, and he said I was doing overkill. I told him yes, but I just eliminated the half life in windows that you usually get. He said
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"Better technology" ?? Proof otherwise, inside...
"Microshaft and The-Cult-of-Apple - have made it nearly impossible to let better technology succeed." - by filesiteguy (695431) on Thursday April 23, @09:53PM (#27697105) Homepage
"Better technology"?
It's going to be "tough sledding" convincing anyone of that, after this:
(Especially since the 'topic @ hand' is stock exchanges)
And on that note/in THAT arena? Well, take a read below next:
NASDAQ keeps on running 24x7, into the fabled "5-9's" of 99.999% uptime using Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer 2005 (in failover clusters) since late 2005, acting as the official dissemination system of official trade data:
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NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005:
http://windowsfs.com/enews/nasdaq-migrates-to-sql-server-2005 [windowsfs.com] [windowsfs.com]
&/or
NASDAQ Uses SQL Server 2005 - Reducing Costs through Better Data Management:
"NASDAQ, the worlds first electronic stock market replaced its aging mainframe computers with Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 on two 4-node clusters to support its Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through the system with Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 handling some 5,000 transactions per second at market open. The system also responds to about 10,000 queries a day and is able to handle real-time queries against data without slowing the database down."
+
Case Studies - Financial Services:
http://www.microsoft.com/sqlserver/2005/en/us/cs-financial-roi.aspx?pf=true
"NASDAQ Deploys SQL Server 2005 to Support Real-Time Trade Booking and Queries
NASDAQ, which became the worlds first electronic stock market in 1971, and remains the largest U.S. electronic stock market, is constantly looking for more-efficient ways to serve its members. As the organization prepared to retire its aging large mainframe computers, it deployed Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 on two 4-node clusters to support its Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade that is processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through the MDDS system, with SQL Server 2005 handling some 5,000 transactions per second at market open. SQL Server 2005 simultaneously handles about 100,000 queries a day, using SQL Server 2005 Snapshot Isolation to support real-time queries against the data without slowing the database. NASDAQ is enjoying a lower total cost of ownership compared to the large mainframe computer system that the SQL Server 2005 deployment has replaced."
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You want PROOF of that "stability/uptime", you say?
OK, see here -> http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/Trader.aspx?id=MarketShare
"NASDAQ is renowned for its high performance technology and has proven reliability with 99.999+% uptime. Whats more, firms count on NASDAQ for unsurpassed speed and tested capacity to execute trades quickly and efficiently."
APK
P.S.=> Any *NIX being "better technology" than THAT from above? Well, that'd be purely opinion, only (vs. facts above)... apk
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Quite the opposite Rioting Pacifist
"Didn't atleast one of those suffer major down time after switching from unix to windows?" - by RiotingPacifist (1228016) on Thursday April 23, @07:16PM (#27695839)
NASDAQ keeps on running 24x7, into the fabled "5-9's" of 99.999% uptime using Windows Server 2003 + SQLServer 2005 (in failover clusters) since late 2005, acting as the official dissemination system of official trade data:
----
NASDAQ Migrates to SQL Server 2005:
http://windowsfs.com/enews/nasdaq-migrates-to-sql-server-2005 [windowsfs.com] [windowsfs.com]
&/or
NASDAQ Uses SQL Server 2005 - Reducing Costs through Better Data Management:
"NASDAQ, the worlds first electronic stock market replaced its aging mainframe computers with Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 on two 4-node clusters to support its Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through the system with Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 handling some 5,000 transactions per second at market open. The system also responds to about 10,000 queries a day and is able to handle real-time queries against data without slowing the database down."
+
Case Studies - Financial Services:
http://www.microsoft.com/sqlserver/2005/en/us/cs-financial-roi.aspx?pf=true
"NASDAQ Deploys SQL Server 2005 to Support Real-Time Trade Booking and Queries
NASDAQ, which became the worlds first electronic stock market in 1971, and remains the largest U.S. electronic stock market, is constantly looking for more-efficient ways to serve its members. As the organization prepared to retire its aging large mainframe computers, it deployed Microsoft® SQL Server 2005 on two 4-node clusters to support its Market Data Dissemination System (MDDS). Every trade that is processed in the NASDAQ marketplace goes through the MDDS system, with SQL Server 2005 handling some 5,000 transactions per second at market open. SQL Server 2005 simultaneously handles about 100,000 queries a day, using SQL Server 2005 Snapshot Isolation to support real-time queries against the data without slowing the database. NASDAQ is enjoying a lower total cost of ownership compared to the large mainframe computer system that the SQL Server 2005 deployment has replaced."
----
You want PROOF of that "stability/uptime", you say?
OK, see here -> http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/Trader.aspx?id=MarketShare
"NASDAQ is renowned for its high performance technology and has proven reliability with 99.999+% uptime. Whats more, firms count on NASDAQ for unsurpassed speed and tested capacity to execute trades quickly and efficiently."
APK