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And a good example of why I DON'T donate money to the ACLU

http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2006/02/11/aclu-and-lesbians-attack-boyscouts-in-9th-circuit/

They have an agenda, fine, that doesn't mean everyone has to preach it for them also.

Wow. What a hate-filled, ignorant propaganda piece. I mean, seriously...

Judge Napoleon Jones said in his 2003 ruling the Boy Scouts are a religious organization with a "religious purpose" because adult leaders and youth members are required to believe in a "formal deity" and to swear duty to God.

Sounds reasonable to me. You don't need to back a specific domination to be a religious organization; any organization that would exclude atheists and/or polytheists clearly has its own religious agenda, and government support of such an organization is clearly unconstitutional, and rightly so[1].

The ACLU want to force the BSA to welcome professing homosexuals and even to recruit gay Scout leaders.

Yes. Practicing discrimination against homosexuals is unlawful, not to mention morally repugnant. I'm not surprised the ACLU wants to stop this.

They'd also like to erase the mention of "duty to God".

Yep. Right there with them on that one. If this organisation wants to receive any form of state support, it has to openly accept people of all religious beliefs, including atheists and polytheists for whom this statement would be a violation of their own religious beliefs. If it doesn't want to do that, the ACLU see it as their job to stop it from receiving any form of state support, as is their legal right.

But then, it's not surprising that a group that embraces NAMBLA would be tied up in knots by the Boy Scouts, an organization grounded in a traditional morality, promoting faith, family, and self-reliance. Such old-fashioned American "bigotry" seems infinitely more repulsive to the ACLU that the depravities of child sexual abuse.

NAMBLA is a political, campaigning organisation. We may find what they are campaigning for repugnant, and I'm sure most ACLU members do to. But we also believe that NAMBLA's members right to _say_ whatever they want to say is critical. The "bigotry" referred to above is discrimination against homosexuals ("traditional morality" in the words of the article) and discrimination against those whose religious beliefs contradict those of Christianity ("promoting faith"). This bigotry is actively pursued by the BSA. NAMBLA, as an organisation, does not sexually abuse children. Many of its members, AIUI, while they would _like_ to do so, have never done so either. The organisation exists only to spread the word about how these people want to change the law, a perfectly legal activity, and one that is protected by the US constitution.

This is why ACLU attorneys and their allies are working furiously to force the Boy Scouts to accept scoutmasters who engage in homosexual behavior

That'll be because homosexuals have a right not to be discriminated against on the basis of their sexuality. It's a basic civil liberty, which the Boy Scouts have repeatedly attempted to subvert.

despite studies showing that those who engage in such behavior are more likely to become pedophiles than those who don't.

Studies say that black people are more likely to commit crime than white people. Perhaps we should send them all away somewhere they can't get access to us law-abiding people to make sure we're safe from them. This is the same logic that this article is using.

Behind the blitzkrieg against the Boy Scouts is an essential conflict of interest: The ACLU is paving the legal way for an atheistic, libertine society, which puts them at cross-purposes with the God-fearing, self-disciplined kids who help old ladies across the street.

No, the ACLU is working to protect the constitutional rights of Ame

And a good example of why I DON'T donate money to the ACLU

http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2006/02/11/aclu-and-lesbians-attack-boyscouts-in-9th-circuit/

They have an agenda, fine, that doesn't mean everyone has to preach it for them also.

The ACLU is working on the side of terrorism.

Fight the ACLU. Donate today, or submit tomorrow.

John McCain can't type because his arms were repeatedly broken by the Vietnamese while he was a POW. Why do you insult disabled veterans?

Well, that's what his campaign claims when the embarrassing topic of his technological ignorance comes up. On the other hand, here you can see him firmly holding a pad in one hand, while signing his name with the other hand, standing up, with no awkwardness that I can observe. He's hardly an invalid. If he can do that, he can type on a keyboard.

I think you're putting the proverbial carriage before the horse. As best as I can tell, McCain's injuries were not used as a claim to avoid embarrassing topics...in fact the "embarrassing topic" was brought up in 2000 by him in describing his injury (disclaimer: I have no affiliation with this site): http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/09/12/barack-obama-campaign-mocks-john-mccains-disability-in-new-ad/

I am opposed to the ACLU for a variety of reasons. I don't believe based on their record they are anything but a benevolent organization and I don't believe it is their agenda to uphold the constitution (except when it benefits them). http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2005/11/10/top-ten-reasons-to-stop-the-aclu/

Might be one of those legal elephants in the room that nobody -- not even the ACLU -- wants to touch, as it's political suicide...

Funny that you'd bring up the ACLU, given that one of their people will be someone's prison bitch for seven years and that their policy goal is the legalization of kiddie porn.

You'd be hard-pressed to find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy than the ACLU.

The ACLU routinely sues to get courts to order schools to desist from any practices that pertain to religion, or at least to Christianity. They sue to get public prayers forbidden from graduations, from sporting events, they sue to get even minor references to the Bible removed from classroom lessons. A comprehensive list would be an undertaking to compile. Here's a page that details some of their specific harmful actions: top ten reasons to stop the ACLU.

The Sunday cartoonist "Opus" is no conservative but he has just let himself go enough to joke a little about Islam. Bad move! A lot of papers that normally take it will not run this Sunday's cartoon. I have reproduced it above.

There is a full-size version [1] here

As you can see, it is not in fact laughing at Islam. It is laughing at his fellow Berkeleyites, if anything. - Stop The ACLU blog

If the ACLU was actually doing that, I wouldn't have much of a complaint. When they started defending those who would bring about the end to liberty and freedom for everybody, they gave up any claim to being a legitimate civil-rights organization.

Who should make the determination of whose liberties are protected?

The Constitution is not a suicide pact. Forces that are inimical to the continuation of civilized society must be given no quarter, whether we're talking about terrorism, kiddie porn, or whatever (and yes, the ACLU has defended both terrorism and kiddie porn (among other things), which is what makes them not just worthless, but dangerous).

If the ACLU was actually doing that, I wouldn't have much of a complaint. When they started defending those who would bring about the end to liberty and freedom for everybody, they gave up any claim to being a legitimate civil-rights organization.

Who should make the determination of whose liberties are protected?

The Constitution is not a suicide pact. Forces that are inimical to the continuation of civilized society must be given no quarter, whether we're talking about terrorism, kiddie porn, or whatever (and yes, the ACLU has defended both terrorism and kiddie porn (among other things), which is what makes them not just worthless, but dangerous).