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Every linux distro that installs the gcc suit has an objective-C compiler ...
And if you really want to: a Switft compiler to, directly from swift.org: https://swift.org/download/

It just isn't worth it to build a Hackintosh simply to run a Swift compiler on.

Wow, since when does Ubuntu only run on Mac? I know people are worried that the Windows Subsystem for Linux would kill Linux, but I'm impressed Apple managed to do it quietly without anyone noticing, requiring a Mac to run Linux.

Last I checked, any modern PC can run Linux and thus, Ubuntu and I'm sure various flavors thereof. It even says they mention Ubuntu as that's what they tested on - likely other distributions of Linux work as well.

They aren't even .deb files, they're tarballs.

A little more detail ie "On December 3, 2015, the Swift language, supporting libraries, debugger, and package manager were published under the Apache 2.0 license with a Runtime Library Exception, and Swift.org was created to host the project." https://swift.org/about/ and of course https://swift.org/LICENSE.txt and not to forget https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.... So it seems Apple could not sell swift and after having trained all of it's coders, it decided to open source it to save the cost of retraining it's coders and of course to bring in new coders. Quite the scheme but when you have tens of thousand of coders, that hundreds of millions of cost.

All the major tech companies are the same pack of bean counter dicks, real arseholes. Instead of coming togethor to create an open generic program langauge that codes in two ways, verbose and compact and that translates well in the verbose form, the endlessly fuck with this bullshit to push their profit margins and fuck everyone else on the plant, a board of tiny dicks, blocking this from happening and governments or more accurately politicians not giving a fuck as long as they get campaign dollars.

Seriously after over half a century of computer language, no generic open teaching language. Thank fuck these arseholes were not in charge of normal language, we would all have to own multiple dictionaries and translators for tens of thousands of languages and pay licenses and patent fees, to talk or write.

A little more detail ie "On December 3, 2015, the Swift language, supporting libraries, debugger, and package manager were published under the Apache 2.0 license with a Runtime Library Exception, and Swift.org was created to host the project." https://swift.org/about/ and of course https://swift.org/LICENSE.txt and not to forget https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.... So it seems Apple could not sell swift and after having trained all of it's coders, it decided to open source it to save the cost of retraining it's coders and of course to bring in new coders. Quite the scheme but when you have tens of thousand of coders, that hundreds of millions of cost.

All the major tech companies are the same pack of bean counter dicks, real arseholes. Instead of coming togethor to create an open generic program langauge that codes in two ways, verbose and compact and that translates well in the verbose form, the endlessly fuck with this bullshit to push their profit margins and fuck everyone else on the plant, a board of tiny dicks, blocking this from happening and governments or more accurately politicians not giving a fuck as long as they get campaign dollars.

Seriously after over half a century of computer language, no generic open teaching language. Thank fuck these arseholes were not in charge of normal language, we would all have to own multiple dictionaries and translators for tens of thousands of languages and pay licenses and patent fees, to talk or write.

proprietary technology that belongs to Apple.

What's your next guess?

-jcr

It's about teaching how to use Swift . . . a "programming" language that is a proprietary technology that belongs to Apple.

Uh...No.

Developer lock-in for Swift? Have you been to swift.org lately?

Sun wrote a VM for Java. That's it. Java never was "ported". I don't think you know what "ported" means.

You can't have Java without the VM. No VM, no Java. Hence, Sun "ported" Java to Windows, Mac and Linux.

I think your understanding of computer programs is sorely lacking.

I made the president's list for maintaining a 4.0 GPA in computer programming after I graduated from community college. That took me five years because I was taking two classes per semester, working 60+ hours per week as a video game tester and teaching Sunday school. I'm not a professional software developer. I went into IT support to use my programming background to help users solve difficult problems made difficult by professional software developers.

Running something in Cygwin in Windows is not a "port" of that program.

Swift for Cygwin and Windows is called a "port" on the swift-dev list. The Cygwin port requires a hack to compile the binary for distribution. The Windows port requires more effort for a native binary.

https://lists.swift.org/pipermail/swift-dev/Week-of-Mon-20160418/001790.html

This decision wasn't made lightly, and I want you all to know that I’m still completely committed to Swift. I plan to remain an active member of the Swift Core Team, as well as a contributor to the swift-evolution mailing list.

Incidentally, it looks like he's going to Tesla. Not sure what he'll be doing there.

Where's the Windows version of Swift?

Waiting for someone who's not a jackass to write it. I'd start with the Ubuntu version:

https://swift.org/download/#re...

Governance of the Swift project is firmly under the control of Apple, as stated here. How can Swift ever be a true community project if Apple controls it? Look no further than Java to see what can go wrong when a corporation controls a language.

What TFS doesn't do a good job of explaining is that with Swift 3, Apple has essentially forked the project into two parts. Besides the newer version 3, Apple is also continuing to develop/support Swift 2.x. The already-released Swift 2.3 is Swift 3's counterpart for developers who would like to stick with Swift 2.x code.

Swift 2.3 is a minor update from Swift 2.2.1. The primary difference between Swift 2.2.1 and Swift 2.3 is that it is intended to be paired with Apple's macOS 10.12, iOS 10, watchOS 3, and tvOS 10 SDKs. It also updates the underlying LLVM and Clang versions to match with those in the Swift 3 compiler.

I don't imagine Apple will support Swift 2.x forever. But for the time being, Swift 3 is only as source-breaking as you want it to be. Developers who need Swift 2 compatibility can roll on with 2.3.

Swift is infected as well: https://swift.org/community/#c...

I'm about as anti-Social Justice Whiner as they come, but I don't really see anything to object to in the code of conduct posted above.

Swift is infected as well: https://swift.org/community/#c...

The claws of the SJWs are sharp and they are drilled deep into the flesh of the software development industry.

But that code of conduct usually only applies to the core project (like the compiler), and many libraries. If you "only" are an user you won't get harassed by any SJW.

No. They're open-sourcing their entire Foundation framework alongside it.