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Re:Good. He's a fucking traitor and a disgrace
There are quite a few articles like this that allege that the cables about the Tunisian government combined with the self-immolation of the grocer to ignite the revolution. Please note that the Tunisian government thought that the cables were important enough that they blocked access to Wikileaks and other sites that were carrying news about the leaked cables, and reportedly imprisoned some people over their dissemination.
From the article:
No one is suggesting WikiLeaks and its editor Julian Assange can take full credit for toppling the corrupt Tunisian regime. But the whistleblower's contribution to Ben Ali's downfall might at least give the US Justice Department, determined to prosecute Assange as a spy, pause for thought.
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Re:So...
That makes absolutely no fucking sense, whatsoever.
Reread what AC said, I think you hit it too quickly.
Well, if you're a teabagging Palinista, unless you're pounding down Assange's door with a torch and pitchfork ready to behead him, you're a "supporter".
AC was saying that "if you are Palin", inherently saying that if you are of the "palinite" mindset, an individual would be by default a WL supporter if said individuals are not donning torch and pitchfork (which is actually in alignment with your link you posted as a counter point), per the "palinite" mindset of "If you are not 100% choking the red-white-and-blue dick, then you are a terrorist."
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Re:So...
That makes absolutely no fucking sense, whatsoever.
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Re:The way to go
but no major media outlet would make a fuss until the Barclay brothers got fed up with the government pointing the finger at financiers/bankers for all that is wrong in the world.
No. In the case of the MPs, the story broke because someone sold The Telegraph a CD of the MPs itemised expense claims, and the receipts they used to support their claims.
...servicemen on leave between tours were used to provide security at the offices where parliamentary staff were going through all the MPs' expenses claims.
One of the servicemen was so angered by the MPs' lavish claims that he decided to leak the material.
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False?
This story might be somewhat false.
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Re:Who cares
I'm talking about the guy who blew up a plane over Lockerbie, Scotland.
It's now coming out that BP was involved in convincing the UK Government to release him, in order to get drilling rights in Libya.
Actually, it turns out that you're talking sh1te because the UK Government had nothing to do with his release - it was the Scottish parliament who decided to release him and BP had no part in that decision - but nice try 'cos surely if you throw enough muck some will stick
Well, right back atcha, because it would seem there are those who think Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi was innocent anyway, and it was a CIA (and UK Gov) stitch up from start to finish. See how Cameron has said something like "well, we can look into the whole issue of Megrahi from his conviction to his release" and see how fast the US back peddles and it no longer seems so important!
From the linked article:
Back in 2000 a former CIA official told my brother, Andrew Cockburn, who undertook an investigation of the case for our newsletter CounterPunch – the factual substrate of these observations - that he had taken part in the original investigation of the PanAm bombing. He said that if the original CIA report was ever to be made public, it would provide "damning evidence" that "the Libyans were never directly involved in the Lockerbie bombing." In fact, the evidence in the CIA's possession pointed more clearly in the direction of the original suspects in the case, members of a group known as the PFLP-GC, closely linked to Iran.
The Iranians had a clear motive for an attack on an American airliner, following the destruction of an Iranian Airbus over the Persian Gulf carrying 290 passengers, including 66 children, on July 3, 1988.
Have a nice day
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Re:Hmmm
Are you kidding? No shots yet, but how about an attempted stabbing with an axe and another plot to assassinate let alone bounties and death threats?
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/57865,news-comment,news-politics,muslim-extremists-attack-on-danish-cartoonist-is-great-pr-for-panic-rooms
http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0309/waterford.html -
The First Post
The last link points to this article.
"THE FIRST POST - news and views that matter"
Is this site trying to parody -
in a free and democratic society....
In free and democratic societies, an individual deciding on his or her own to leak classified information is a subversion of that very democratic process.
How about, In free and democratic societies, a corrupt individual or group who decide to classify information in order to cover their crimes is a subversion of that very democratic process.
From my observation, the latter occurs much more often than the former. Given government crimes of late, how does a free and democratic society overcome corruption when evidence of same is declared classified information?
Here's something to think about:What goes around comes around, as they say in America. One of the greatest bailouts for a company in history came in 1953, when the Eisenhower administration authorised a CIA-backed coup in Iran. The Anglo-Iranian Oil Company, owned by the British government, had been expropriated and nationalised in 1951 by the unanimous vote of Iran's parliament. The '53 coup evicted prime minister Mohammed Mossadeq and installed Shah Reza Pahlevi, the creature of the West's oil companies, with full dictatorial powers. The AIOC got back 40 per cent of its old concession and became an internationally owned consortium, renamed... British Petroleum.
In short, those in power shouldn't do anything they might not want to later read about on the front page of the news. And, indeed, those who don't remember the past are condemned to repeat it - and it's hard to even remember the past if its classified.
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Re:Cosmci Ra
What else would it be?
According to some German, aliens.
W
PS is "Cosmci Ra" related to Mumm-Ra? Or She-Ra for that matter?
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Nuke the F-ING thing.
Seriously. You can mod this a troll if you feel better. But I would much rather there be a small area of radiation from a tactical nuclear explosion, than the entire gulf coast destroyed the biggest oil spill in the history of mankind and one that will just keep on going and keep getting worse.
I know folks have bad feeling about nukes, but for fucks sake..it worked 4 out of 5 times for the Russians. It's time to do it before it's too late!
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/62992,news-comment,news-politics,deepwater-horizon-gulf-mexico-oil-spill-should-bp-nuke-the-leak-like-the-russians -
Re:Not the judges per se
So let me get this straight, you're saying I know nothing about Italy, and the way things work there and yet you're completely ignoring the fact that Italy is perhaps the most corrupt nation in the Western world?
You're correct that many members of the judiciary have been out for Berlusconi, but not all judges follow that agenda.
If Berlusconi wanted to influence judges with the amount of money he has, and with the amount of corruption in Italy, then that would be an extremely trivial task for him.
Are you even aware that a particularly significant portion of the hatred by some judges against Berlusconi is actually down to bribing judges in the first place?
The rest just get harassed instead:
If you're going to so arrogantly infer that someone is wrong, it might be a good idea to at least check your facts to ensure you're correct first, because clearly, in this case, you are not.
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by the way, what does your sig mean?http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/index.php?menuID=2&
s ubID=1364Wait, did you specify OUR government ONLY?
(Goes back... Yes, you did...) Hmm.... That's frustrating.
Of course, most UK measures eventually come to America.Frustratingly, the link to the original article has expired. I hate that shit. If you're a news organization, every article should have a static URL that works for perpetuity!
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Interesting