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Re:If you...
You think it's a joke, but check out this McCain ad:
Voiceover: Elitist liberals complain that John McCain doesn't know how many houses he owns.
[A Monopoly board. Houses, hotels, and Monopoly money and Chance cards ("?") spill onto it in slow motion.]
Voiceover: Who can keep track? They don't teach fancy slide-rule calculus in POW camps. John McCain may not know how many mansions he has, but he knows how many books he has.
[An empty bookshelf, covered with cobwebs. McCain walks by, holding a familiar black book.]
McCain: I can count up to The Bible.
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Re:The WH's boss is still we the people you knowGet out of your echo chamber. Not sure what I have to say about a long extended quote from an op-ed article.
But in the interests of clarity, I'll offer up this link which, although from a blog, pretty much tears apart your strawman by actually quoting directly from the actual report rather than by leaving out much by omission. FUN FACT: that's exactly what Freddie Hiatt, whom you quote at length, seems to do himself!
The fact that you consider that "blog" a viable source shows your ignorance of how things work above "entry level" jobs. Here is a quote from your link (U) Conclusion 8: Statements by the President, Secretary of Defense, and Secretary of State that Iraq was developing unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) that could be used to deviler chemical or biological weapons were generally substantiated by intelligence information, but did not convey the substantial disagreements that existed in the intelligence community. But, the bold part is what I really want to take about as it is mentioned several times in the "blog".Now, if you have ever attended any type of executive meetings, where important decisions are made, you will know that there will be disagreements, sometimes loud ones. That's OK, it's how decisions are made and how management works issues out. Now, given that, do you ever hear of a company saying, "Check out the new Ford Flipper! It's got 15 square feet of cargo space! Some of our executives thought that 15 feet was a joke and we shouldn't even build a car with such a pathetic amount of storage, but the engineers won out by pointing out that it would save on gas mileage to limit the space."
Of course not! So yeah, there were disagreements in the intelligence community. There is always one asshole that says, "hey wait a minute... I know we saw him pick up and pay a hooker, but are we sure he boned her?" Do you think the prosecution would put that one asshole on the stand?
And this one:
(U) Conclusion 5: Statements by the President, Vice-President, Secretary of State and Secretary of Defense regarding Iraqâ(TM)s possession of weapons of mass destruction were generally substantiated by intelligence information, though many statements made regarding ongoing production prior to late 2002 reflected a higher level of certainty than the intelligence judgments themselves. Again, do you expect Bush, Cheney and Powell to go to the US public and say, "we are going to war because the intelligence is pretty darn sure that Iraq is a threat."? No, again, like before, you look at the evidence, make a decision and you make your case. What you are bitching about is what was said when making the case. You don't bring up the oppositions points when making your case. Just like Obama won't admit that McCain has a better understanding of foreign affairs. I don't ding him for that. He'd be a moron for bringing that up!I'm pretty certain that GWB and company truly believed what they were saying. Were they wrong? Sure, on the WMD part. Does that make them liars? Nope. Honest people are wrong every day. That doesn't make them liars... No more than it makes you liar for bitching about an op-ed article and responding with a blog.
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Re:The WH's boss is still we the people you know
Get out of your echo chamber. Not sure what I have to say about a long extended quote from an op-ed article.
But in the interests of clarity, I'll offer up this link which, although from a blog, pretty much tears apart your strawman by actually quoting directly from the actual report rather than by leaving out much by omission. FUN FACT: that's exactly what Freddie Hiatt, whom you quote at length, seems to do himself! -
Re:Violating the Constitution is a good reasonYou might want to read more than the Washington Post's summary. You might find that the conclusions were cherrypicked, ignoring contradictory information.
Additionally, I think you're profoundly misunderstanding the Rockefeller report. You should check it for references to 'Hans Blix'. Kind of a major omission, no?
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Re:Name Can Be Deceiving
I guess that we may call you a liberal, then?
No, you just can't call him a reactionary, facist wingnut.
"Moderate" or "pays attention in class" will describe him nicely. -
Well, that depends
Which country you live in...
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The Poor Man
Personally, I'm a fan of The Poor Man, Sadly, No!, and uggabugga. I hate Atrios, but at least he keeps you abreast of what's going on. For election coverage, there's Andrew S. Tannenbaum's electoral-vote.com and the polling report I have a whole list of `em. I'm not gonna give you all the links, that's what Google's for: World O'Crap, Matthew Yglesias, the All Spin Zone, Hullabaloo, Daily Kos, This Modern World, War Liberal. Democratic Veteran, The Al Franken web site, The Majority Report, Media Matters for America, TBOGG, democratic underground, hoffmania, and a few others...
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Re:Pirate!
Just like a pirate, you forgot to give credit where credit is due.
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Peer Review
The next question is: "How many peer-reviewed papers are actually reviewed?"
And what about the brothers who were awarded PHDs in physics for what looks like a hoax ala the Social Text incident?
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