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I thought I'd point out that not even Jobs is so sure portable video is a good idea yet - people are not going to buy them for video, they are buying them because they are iPods. A quote from Jobs in a Time magazine interview:

Â"There is no market today for portable video,Â" he says. Â"WeÂ're going to sell millions of these to people who want to play their music, and video is going to come along for the ride. Anyone who wants to put out video content will put it out for this. And weÂ'll find out what happens.Â" Yes, we will. WeÂ're all coming along for the ride, and we all know whoÂ's going to be driving.

So get over yourself already for being all smug thinking Apple users are doing an about face just bceause Jobs says to. Most Apple owners are a lot more individualistic than that it seems to me. You have to be to put up with constant ill-informed crap from people such as yourself. You might think we all worship Jobs; the truth is that we just appreciate a company that makes good products and seems to hink of what would be good for the consumer from time to time as opposed to the media industry.

... and allowing them to be used as investigative tools (again with court orders) against terrorists

Substantial parts of the PATRIOT act can be used without any kind of court order. The 'sneak-and-peek' provisions can be carried out without the government ever telling you that you were searched or investigated.

The ACLU and EFF have pages up about the PATRIOT Act, and clearly show how the effects are not limited to "terrorists". (Unless, like Ashcroft, you feel that breasts and calico cats are weapons of mass destruction.)

More importantly, can you give me the number of people whose civil liberties have *actually* been violated (N.B. not those who "felt" they were violated) under specific provisions of the PATRIOT Act?

Not easily, because it's secret. I can certainly say that Maher Arar had his civil liberties violated, but since the US government won't talk about it, it's hard to say whether it was PATRIOT-related or just plain extra-legal.

Of course, you may feel that using the PATRIOT act against pot-smugglers is excessive.

Here's the link to the photo they've not taken down yet.

but no pictures >:(

The pics weren't in the original story anyways, just on the home page. Here's the cover pic--on another site, so no worry that it will be taken down--and here's a nice pic which is still accessible on timecanada.com.

Man, that and the printer-friendly version of the article? If timecanada doesn't fire their webmaster for posting too early, they sure as hell should fire him for being unable to even take the story and picture down successfully!

story remains

http://www.timecanada.com/printstory.adp?storyid=1


but no pictures >:(

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At this URL:

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damn i wouldn't want to be the poor admin who set the date on the content publishing software ahead by a week :(

steve is going to have that poor sod's job...

cute little thang tho...

http://www.timecanada.com/index.adp

http://www.timecanada.com/ is redirecting, not letting you see it. Try http://www.timecanada.com/index.adp.

http://www.timecanada.com/index.adp

Speaking of the Apple Store, do you know how I'm 100% certain that they'll have these tomorrow? Well, the employees tell me that Apple reps come during the dead of night with new hardware displays, right before new hardware launches. Incidentally, I think that the Store employees avoid me now, because I have a tendency to start ranting to innocent customers about my Solaris boxes and OS X... it gets ugly...

Hey, by the way, Time Canada just took the story off the front page. It's 3:02AM EST. However, you can still reach the story with a direct link, so apparently the webmaster isn't as clue-laden as some of the other posts insinuate; the direct link is already posted on all major Mac news sites.

As of right now,
http://www.timecanada.com/ redirects to www.time.com/time/
but the original story remains online at
http://www.timecanada.com/index.adp. Weird.

I've still got my fingers crossed that there's more than just new imacs coming in 8 hours and 45 minutes...

As of right now,
http://www.timecanada.com/ redirects to www.time.com/time/
but the original story remains online at
http://www.timecanada.com/index.adp. Weird.

I've still got my fingers crossed that there's more than just new imacs coming in 8 hours and 45 minutes...

When I click on the link in the topic I get redirected to time.com.
Only this one http://www.timecanada.com/index.adp brings up the frontpage + Apple picture.

Geographical redirect maybe?

And you can still see the phto here:

http://timecanada.com/index.adp

Deep link still works...

Pic
Cover photo

Deep link still works...

Pic
Cover photo

here. But probably not for long...

These things look damn beautiful where they are intended to go. They are kiosks. They are the nicest-looking kiosks money can buy. Imacs always have been. A row of these things on a stand in a lobby, or tucked away in a conference room, would look great. They have a minimalist, comfortable aesthetic that says "come, touch me. I'm all plastic and safe." It shows you exactly what you can do with it, and it doesn't have anything extraneous. For example, there is no "turbo" button. When a company or an institution spends millions to design a building to make it look just right, spending a few thousand on computers that compliment that look is quite understandable.

They would also look great in the home. Yes, they are a little 50's hal 2001 retro, which isn't quite as cool as as the 60's retro of the original Imac but is still very nice. They look a lot like an uncomplicated, friendly little screen designed to be exactly, and only, a little digital hub. While the lack of tivo style options is sad, the little thing really does look like a piece of complimentary design work... like a pretty plastic toaster for your MP3 player. I wouldn't want it to replace the k-6 linux box sitting next to me, but I'm jealous of anyone who can afford to put one of these in their living rooms.

Of course, afford is a keyword. Apple has never stormed the mass market, because it knows that the money is to be made in the high-end. That's how they have been surviving, and more power to them.

-Story update!-

Timecanada.com is now forwarding to time.com, which doesn't have the original story. However, the original, sans photos, is still (as of 2:30 AM EST) available here

here. At least you can as of 01/06/2002 2342 PST.

http://www.timecanada.com now redirects to http://www.time.com/time. I guess it was a goof and not a stunt. And I guess the doofus at timecanada just got his pink slip.

My first impression was it looked like a table lamp. Look at this picture.

I'm not a big fan of any of the iMac designs. But I could sure go for one of those Titanium Powerbooks.

I think that its funny that personal computers are starting to go back to being sold in proprotory cases\setups again. I know this doesn't apply to apple as much as intel based systems but still I've got to wonder if people have forgotten the pains of dealing with software/hardware installs on fancy schmancy compaq or HPs. Do you recall when dell and gatway and there ilk started making standerdisd components and cases popular? Where you as glad as I was? Didn't apple recently start making cool[G4] cases that made it easy to swape out hardware? Why are they abanding this idea in favor of non-upgradable, non-expandable, hell, non-openable(the cube)setups? Is it a plot that by shorting the time the thing is good for in order to get consumers to buy newer equipment more often? I'm not totally against the shnazzy looking mac I like astetics but I like function better. By the way you can find the complete story here: Story

The new iMac design was inspired by superstar singer Shakira's ass. Please compare.

And Apple's operating systems aren't helping. In fact, they are steadily losing market share, he says, pointing to recent data that suggest Apple OS's accounted for only 3.6% of new license revenue in 2000. Worse, IDC projects that they will amount to even less in 2001. By contrast, Microsoft's share of Windows licenses has increased during the same period.

And Apple's operating systems aren't helping. In fact, they are steadily losing market share, he says, pointing to recent data that suggest Apple OS's accounted for only 3.6% of new license revenue in 2000. Worse, IDC projects that they will amount to even less in 2001. By contrast, Microsoft's share of Windows licenses has increased during the same period.

Use this printer friendly link instead

An ugly one.

For those who cant be bothered to trudge through the front page

http://www.timecanada.com/story.adp?storyid=1