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Time Canada Shows New iMac
Kira-Baka writes "Okay, Time Canada screwed up big time. They have pictures of the new iMac which will be released tomorrow during the Mac World Expo keynote on their front page. it is likely that they will be getting a letter soon so though..." I'll be posting a full report on the keynote and other MacWorld goodness tomorrow as it happens. Time Canada seems a bit slow, but in short, think little pod of iMac with superdrive and flat panel screen. Update: 01/07 13:22 GMT by T : Several readers have pointed out that the story can (for now) still be found mirrored here, though it's been pulled from the Time site.
Title of article Apple's New Core... hmmm, and I keep removing all these core files around me, now they exist as a "machine" ?
Geez, who cares if the picture is a little early? Not like anyone reads "Time Canada"! You sound like Apple's director of being a control freak.
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So it's not vapourware, but it probably provides a bit of publicity......
OS/2 - because choice is a terrible thing to waste.
For those who cant be bothered to trudge through the front page
http://www.timecanada.com/story.adp?storyid=1
I mean really! It looks like a different shaped cube. I take it the guts are in the hump that the stalk attaching the LCD panel to. You know, this isn't that big of deal. It's ugly compared to what was thought to come out. One thing is for sure.....this does like like a Job's one more thing device.
Gorkman
#appleinsider if you want to talk about it now
... wow, I want a PC that looks just like that! ;)
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The story date is set at January 14, 2002. This must have been one really bad accident. Either way, somebody is in deep shit.
This one is easy, Steve's gay lover, next question?
Jonathan Ives, Apple's lead product designer.
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I've had to give it to Apple in the past, they have come out with some damn nice looking machines. However, this time, I looks like they have run out of idea. To me this thing looks like a blob of clay with a flat screen LCD jammed on it by a stick.
While I am very impressed with the lack of footprint this design brings, It's just not very appealing to me. To top it all off, I thought the Imac was a PIA to upgrade the ram in, I can't imaging how careful you must have to be with that LCD monitor wavering about above it. Maybe it has a nice access door so you don't have to flip the thing over or something.
In closing, I know I'm gonna get the stamp of flamebait, but this thing just really isn't eye appealing. Bring back the mac cube, at least it was a shape geeks could get into.
Trying to be different, just like everyone else.
It has probably been said before, but when I hear "SuperDrive" in association with a macintosh, I still think of the first line of Mac 3.5" floppy drives that could read both Mac and PC formatted media. Of course, the filesystem wasn't supported in the OS of the first few machines with the drive, but eh.
-- Minds are like parachutes... they work best when open.
...i wonder if they'll be able to countersue for medical expenses related to removing Steve Jobs' foot out of their ass.
Just raise the taxes on crack.
Pun intended of course, remember when Time was the first to leak what "IT" (aka Ginger) is.
Steve Jobs is going to be so pissed, it's not even going to be funny.
kawai
Umm.. Its ugly as sin people... cmon
You know, I really can't deal with Macs. It's mostly the software. I've always admired the hardware design.
... but I like it. And if I could stand OSX ... I'd probably buy one.
This is really nice. It's low-profile, technologically "edgy".
I'm sure Slashdot is going to cruicfy Jobs, and probably me for saying this
Wow, looks nice. That's the first iMac I would love to have on my desk. I'd still need to see the specs first, though.
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Also, check this out: http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?s=9b44894
i wonder what WiredCanada posted prematurely on their website...
:)
If you're a webmaster at timecanada.com, I suggest you start cleaning out your desk now.
ooohhhh shit... Steve is gonna be pissed.
Heads will roll because of this.
Reality has a liberal bias
I don't seem to be seeing the pictures. If you are talking about the cover page of Time - it's not big enough.
I want 1024x768 resolution pictures of this thing inside and out. I guess I'll have to wait for the manual.
Get your Unix fortune now!
2. Time Canada will henceforth not receive invitations to previews.
Seems this happens to Apple enough that they'd have journalists sign some sort of non-disclosure agreement.
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
The new imac looks a bit strage...But still cool.
Funny thing is that they say in the article that Steve should bundle a windows emulator with the imac. Though it's not a bad idea, I think a better idea would be for Apple to port windows to the mac. Emulation is too slow. they would have to do it themselves tho and not allow Microsoft to do it, or they'd find themselves ousted by the big M.
Best solution, IMHO : Apple creates a new underlying virtual machine operating system to allow for apple-ported windows (AWE, or Apple Windows Environment) and os X to run concurrently.
Unfortunately, you just can't do without windows these days...
...this is getting out of hand
ehintz
Looks like a nice furniture piece? Something that will go well with interior design of my house... I hope it comes in color so I can match my furniture.. And thats about all the use I have for one of those.. Nice display furniture piece.. Maybe even a conversational piece during a coctail party? But thats about it as far as usability of iMac goes (as far as I am conerned that is)...
I noticed some similarities between the new imac and the "i" in the Pixar logo. Hrm... ;-)
From the description, it sounds like the screen will behave like those big lights in the dentist's office. I hope it's a touch-screen. Wait, what am I saying, I'm not getting anything with OS X until they make it work right and I can afford to have two computers.
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> A misstep can be fatal in the fast-moving computer business.
I'm sure Apple is going to try to make sure a misstep in the fast-moving business of online journalism is just as fatal.
It's the fucking Pixar lamp, with a really weird bulb!
GodDAMN that's ugly! Apple, I'm impressed! After the original iBook, I didn't think you'd be able to top yourselves!
Dragging people kicking and screaming into reality since 1996.
Time Canada Shows New iMac
:(
And just when I unsubscribed!
Yeah, looks ugly but you have to give them something for the display.
Lets put it this way, if its quiet (fanless) it may replace the laptop I usually have sitting on the corner of my desk for email, webbrowsing, etc.
Rod Taylor
There is an article here: http://www.newsfactor.com/perl/story/15616.html That talks about apples possible announcement that they will move to Intel chips, dumping motorola. Might be vaporware, but if not, well, you heard it here first folks. Worth a read, and it makes sense anyways.
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The Time Canada article also spills the beans about iPhoto - long-rumored "digital photo management" software for the Mac.
The "big feature" (besides easy management/sorting/viewing of digital photos): you can arrange your own photo album, doctor it up nice & pretty like, and with a click of a button, a $30 charge on your credit card, and a week or so for the mail, you'll get a hard-covered book of the selfsame album.
Neat.
..a beowulf cluster of these ..
when innovation on the Mac consisted of more than pretty computer packaging.
Brian Ellenberger
Until I can try it. I really don't see a point in bashing design until I can use it. I've always had a little mac-envy on design, the Operating System left a lot to be desired, but I like OS/X (even if it runs a bit slow)... If I could afford a MAC i'd get one...they're too expensive though arc
unlike the cube, this device has a fan in it. it's right under the monitor support, blowing up and out. i'll be interested to see what the price range is, since the imac is supposed to be the low end device.
Time Canada seems a bit slow...
Ahem, please read with correct accent:
"I moved here from Canada and they think I'm slow, eh?"
The first iMac looked like a 1970's dumb terminal. This one looks like a 1950's television set. Extrapolating, I can't imagine what the next iMac will look like, since TVs weren't prevalent in the 1930's. Oh wait...
Time did the same thing with the Segway. They posted the pictures and article the night before on their website.
The only difference is that I doubt Apple/Jobs will give them any more exclusives from now on.
Interesting to note that the concept sketch took only a day, but to squeeze the hardware into the small untit took almost two years. "He had a good working sketch of the new design within a day. But engineering the machine-squeezing all the gear into the little box that Jobs wanted-took nearly two years." But, it costs a LOT...even with a gee-whiz flat-screen. "You can buy a PC with a flat-panel display and a built-in DVD burner for around $1,800, the same as the equivalent iMac." also... " Still, at $1,299 for the entry-level iMac, the product could be priced too dearly to attract many converts from the PC world." So...$1200 - $1800 for an iMac? Don't get me wrong, I'm a PC user, but I do like Apple's hardware, and Mac OS X is OK, but $400 for an iPod, $1,800 for an iMac? Apple prices its products to high to make a convert out of me. Plus, it looks like a lamp. It lacks the OOH AAH factor that the original IMac had at launch.
Maybe it's not when Apple would have wanted it, but Time did "the right thing" from a journalist's perspective. They "broke the story", which is what journalists are paid to do.
Time Canada is owned by AOL-Time Warner. Who do both Apple and AOL-TW see as one of their biggest competitors? Microsoft.
They are natural allies. Maybe Apple is letting them start the buzz a little early. Anyway, I doubt that such a major media outlet would post a big story like this early by mistake. And if they had, I think it would already have been taken down by now.
If that's what they've done to the iMac, I tremble with dread at the thought of what the 2002 Volkwagen Beetle's going to look like.
Yeah, I know I could have stopped myself from clicking on the link, but it's hard. I would have rather been forced to wait until tomorrow to see the new iMac. I feel like I unwrapped my presents when the parents weren't looking!
The new iMac, which Time took for an exclusive test run recently and which will be unveiled at the annual Macworld convention in San Francisco this week, could be just the thing.
hmm guys... maybe if you read the article it would make a little more sense.. it appears it was written to be published before macworld anyway.. the date seems to be the only screw up
Really, is that it? I hope that's not what all the hype was about. It's just a flat screen, skimmed down PC. Gateway, Compaq, and others have made similar in the past, and they all sucked.
I'm a pretty big Apple fan, but if that's all they've been hyping for the past few weeks, I'm gonna be pretty disapointed.
No man is an island, But if you take a bunch of dead guys and tie them together, they make a pretty good raft.
Here is couple quotes from the article:
"We're the only company that owns the whole
widget-the hardware, the software and the
operating system," he [Jobs] says. "We can take
full responsibility for the user experience. We
can do things that the other guy can't do."
Well if Apple did succeed, and would have more
market share, then everybody would call them the
"Monopoly", is not it?
And any way, some time ago I heard a saying :
"Do you really believe that running Microsoft
Office on MacOS is really thinnking different?"
Is it just me, or does anyone expect this thing to jump around the desk trying to find a ball? It really does look like a desk-lamp... I wonder how much light it produces?
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That's about the size of it.
I'd really really really like to buy a Mac
of some sort, but they always come with these
one-button mice.... Completely unusable.
Did they fix it this time?
-I like my women like I like my tea: green-
Just what I always wanted. . .
Am I the only one that wishes Apple would dump Ive's "style" in favor of the classy NeXT machines?
I'm sorry, but I don't see this as something that will increase (dramatically or otherwise) Apple's shares. Jobs makes it clear that he's interested in survival ("Victory in our industry is spelled survival"), but I'm not sure that this will help much.
Could be wrong, though.
My number one rule with people is that they are generally lazy. People are often too lazy to even look at a Mac, let alone use it long enough to try and understand how to work it. No start button? My God! What do I do?!? It can't run my kid's games? Well, forget that! It takes a relatively rare kind of person to make the switch from PC to Mac, and a clever (albeit weird) new design isn't really going to matter much.
The other thing I have issues with is the whole "digital lifestyle" concept that Jobs keeps pushing. Why is it that you have all these commercials, from Apple, Microsoft, HP, and others going on about how easy it is to create shit on your computer? I just don't understand. Yeah, plenty of people create with their computers (God bless 'em) but the majority of the people out there are still astonished that they can actually buy a device to copy their friend's CD's! Combine that with the fact that most people actually consider themselves far too busy to go about creating some stupid coffee table book or movie, there's no way this will fly. I like the iPhoto idea for actually organizing things, but I'm skeptical that it will matter in the long run, as people will just use the free (Windows) software that came with their camera.
Apple could do very well, the possibility is always there so long as they keep up what they're doing, but it would take some serious serious blunders on Microsoft's part, the likes of which we've never seen before, to make people switch.
"I may not have morals, but I have standards."
Could this be part of the hype in that he has something up his sleeve for the "one last thing" product?
Apple has been playing the "style over substance" card for years now. And not too successfully, from my point of view.
Their boxes are ugly.. this one maybe most of all.
And not only that, they are overpriced. That's a pretty small niche they are going for there.
I've always found Apple's interface to be clunky and difficult to use.. and their latest attempts at trying to put pretty, pricey boxes on our desks has made it ever less likely that I would ever consider purchasing one.
Whats interesting to me is how the 'hump' containing the guts of the machine was simply moved from the back to a new airport-esque base. The article says that Jobs hated the design of a bulge on the back of an LCD screen. What's really gained from moving it to a stand? The footprint shrinks by the width of the screen, but I would bet that the new design will tip backwards rather easily based on the photo. In addition, it looks like an LCD growing out of some sort of egg.
:-)
However, for marketing purposes, the fact that it departs so radically from the OLD iMac probably will count in its favor. I'm betting that the machine, combined with (I'm sure) it's ease of setup and phenomenal software (I'm particularly a fan of iMovie for capture/printing) will be a success anyways. Just be careful when adjusting the screen.
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Don't worry, being eaten by a crocodile is just like going to sleep in a giant blender.
Imac image mirror
nt :P
is a worse mouse design than the original iMac
Now imagine how ugly a beowulf cluster of these would look!!!
"The machine bears an uncanny resemblance to Luxo Jr.-the fun-loving, computer-animated swing-arm lamp that starred in a short film by Pixar, the fabled computer-animation studio that Jobs runs."
Yeah, it does look like Luxo Jr.
...I know that the 3rd generation iMac will look like, it'll look like Mike Wazowski (any relation to Woz??), the little green one-eye from Monsters, Inc.
still, that cover is a nice product shot.
-f
www.blackant.net
Could this be fake? There has been five or ten fake iMac with a flat screen stories. Maybe Apple is putting some disinformation out.
It's too ugly to be a Apple creation.
... a group of board execs are having heart attacks.
^_^
"Before humanity, the stars shone throughout the heavens. After humanity [has gone], the stars will continue to shine"
If this isnt planned, Time could by in major deep doo-doo.
Come on, it's not bad for Apple that people see this a few hours earlier than they would. ... bumbersome floating panel ... etc.) this is my current Conspiracy Theory (tm):
/. and/or other news sites will pick up the "blunder" ;).
/real/ new machine, far more slick and appealing than the old machine or the clay-blob-stick-panel (Apple has a good sense of aesthetics, why would they make something look silly?)
But, judging from all the flame the design is getting (clay blob
1) Apple give Time Canada info about their new Mac in advance, but mock up the clay-blob-stick-panel design.
2) Let Time Canada release this early. Naturally
3) Reveal the
4) News sites will catch the discrepancy. People like the real one. People will talk!
As they say, there's no such thing as bad publicity. But I'm just a conspiracy theorist.
-Leo
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They that quote Benjamin Franklin on liberty and safety deserve neither.
The article says it will cost $1800 which is kind of pricey for an iMac (even if it has a superdrive and an LCD).
But the article is from Time Canada, so could the price be in Canadian dollars? This would bring the price down to about $1128 US.
Not to rain on the Apple parade, but look what you can get for $1199:
I'm not saying that this is a wonderful system, but the addition of a flat panel probably isn't going to make anybody want to buy the iMac now that the entry-level machine is $1300. On the bright side, hopefully the "old" iMac will be ~$500 now and I can finally pick one up for work.
Now we know why Jobs moved the keynote up a day. If Time is published on Monday, Apple would either have had to "debut" the iMac a day after everyone had read about it in print, or ask Time to change their whole publishing cycle. Moving the keynote to occur as the magazine was _supposed_ to be released made everyone happy.
Now it makes sense....
I just had that idea too, was about to post it... ;-) Now we can watch Apple's lawyers attack /., that should be fun...
ehintz
Besides the fact that it's a mac (bleh), i could almost see a use for it. No, not to replace my big cheap x86 desktop that can do everything under the sun, but for simple e-mail and web browsing, it may have a place. Too expensive for that at the moment though.
I can imagine it sitting on a coffee/end table, where you can swing the screen around so people sitting nearby on the couch/floor could all have access, and with a stylus and small keyboard could surf the web or bring up pictures or a game of solitaire to play. Who's that guy guest starring on ____? wasn't he in that movie ____? quick check on the web terminal makes it easier.
Yes, I realize a web pad or some such thing could do the same, but something that doesn't move around the room so easily and has a big enough screen to really enjoy would please me more. The movable arm seems like it might be useful, and it might actually have a place in modern homes.
a cheap linux version would probably go over big.
The new iMac, which Time took for an exclusive test run recently and which will be unveiled at the annual Macworld convention in San Francisco this week, could be just the thing
Could it be purposeful? [Well, except for the datestamp of the 14th...]
... that's all i wrote...
No "Blame Canada" Jokes yet?? :)
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Under the truly amazing VPC 6, you can run Linux, Windows, &etc. I had submitted this story a few days ago, but it was rejected -- there's just too much Apple news lately. FWIW:
New for Mac OS X -- Virtual PC 6 from Connectix looks pretty incredible. As Wired says, "You can load DOS, Linux, OS 2, Windows 2000, 95, 98, ME, XP Home and Pro, and of course OS X and Mac OS 9. You can run any combination; RAM is the only limiting factor." Runs under MacOSX and MacOS9, though under MacOSX you can network different instances of VPC together, for filesharing or network programming. VPC 6 also allows you to "undo" -- revert to past sessions, including reboots (you can't do this in the real Windows). Apple and MacNet2 both review it warmly, and
CreativePro says: "I installed Red Hat Linux 7.1 and 7.2 without difficulty, though the drag and drop functionality does not work in Linux." If you're upset because MS Access or MS FrontPage weren't included with Microsoft Office for the Mac, you can run them under VPC. Prices go from $80 to $200. It's also available for windows.
That's great, new stuff, blah blah blah.
In the meantime, Apple needs to get off their asses and speed up the OS X finder, and maybe update the BSD side to quasi-current technology.
OS X is nice, and very full-featured, now just optimize it a little, christ. I'd be much more happy if they had just stuck with the old interface and gradually worked in Aqua.
Remember, it's not all about getting new customers, it's also about not alienating and shitting on your existing customers.
I want to know what the hardware is. But then again, I'm not on the edge of my seat... I now I'll find out tomorrow (my time - what day is it there?) and it's not as though I need to know now.
I am curious as to price ($A) and whether the CRT range is dead completely. If it is, my budget's taking a serious hit. I had to buy a few G4s at A$4,440 last year, as opposed to iMacs at about A$1,800.
I wonder if dual G3s made the cut, like some rumour sites were thinking. And speaking of the rumour sites, I really hope this isn't everything that's "beyond the rumour sites. way beyond" that Apple were hyping.
The iMac only Jobs could love.
Seriously.
This is not a computer for geeks. It's certainly not the computer for schools. And I can't imagine most households wanting something like this when room is plentiful and 18" LCDs (or 21" CRTs) are cheaper than ever. Even die-hard Mac fans are unimpressed.
So, who is Apple targeting? I feel this may set them back *much* further than the Cube.
I wish Apple good luck, they need it.
It's got the body shape of an Airport base station. In concept it's a Cube with a flat panel attached to even further reduce the desktop footprint. It's cool looking, it's cheaper than a Cube was, and it takes up less space on the desk. Spiffy.
A lot of people seem to be assuming that Jobs is having a fit about this right now, and indeed he may be. But let's look at things from a business perspective, shall we?
- When a small, independent Apple site leaks pics of an iCube, new iMac, possible iWalk, whatever, Steve can get pissed, threaten litigation, and call them all kinds of names.
- When a major magazine publisher, backed by one of the worlds largest media conglomerates, leaks pics of the new iMac, Steve bites his tounge, smiles, and congratulates Time Canada on their "scoop".
Or do you think he's willing to throw away millions of potential consumer eyes he could advertise to?
It hurts when I pee.
"The new iMac, which Time took for an exclusive test run recently and which will be unveiled at the annual Macworld convention in San Francisco this week," ...they said.
Can we not infer from this that they PLANNED to scoop this before MacWorld? Idiots.
I do wonder about the speakers though. The Cube speakers were just another mass of wires to mess with an elegant design. I love my current iMac with speakers built in as well as headphone jacks on the front if I need to listen to something without disturbing others.
iPhoto sounds like just the application I was waiting for to promt me to buy a digital camera. Apple truly is following through on it's promise to make the Mac the hub of your digital lifestyle.
I hate to admit it, but after reading the article and looking at the pic, I gotta say I want one ...
:-(
Unobtrusive, sexy, and easy-to-use...
Only problems are :
a) Cost
and
b) Lack of software.. (Luckily they seem to include most of the software you'd want to use with the hardware tho...)
Not to mention the fact that it's becoming kinda hard to find a place to buy apple computers in oz nowadays.
As I've said before, I really don't think it would be a bad idea for Apple port Windows to the mac. That would at least solve the lack of software, and if they could get the Mac running windows software faster than PC hardware can (wouldn't be too hard to do), then they'd have another selling point. As long as they kept the port in-house, they wouldn't lose their stranglehold on the OS for Macs either...
Damnit, I think I *will* buy one of these once they come out, and I've saved up the cash.
...this is getting out of hand
This is ugly. I hope this is a fake. Maybe even a joke on Steve Job's behalf with the aid of Time and some whacky canadians =).
.. not some middle of the line iMacs. If I wanted a cool box that takes up little room I'd have bought a cube with a dvi LCD screen (imho a much more attractive proposition).
I want Newtons , N E W T O N S
Jon - TheSpork
just some neat pictures i found on the web.
i wonder what they are?
i know nothing about them, just thought they looked cool, so i copied 'em to my hard drive.
http://129.21.139.1/imac.jpg
http://129.21.139.1/imac2.jpg
The masses are the crack whores of religion.
Ach, to think I read through the article. I expect puffery like this to come from Jon Katz on /. writing about Linux, not a somewhat respectable weekly news rag.
... but don't all current desktop OS's come with similar / identical features?
I particularly had to choke down the bile for the "Advantage / Feature" section. Correct me if I'm wrong
And wasn't the Newton Apple's first consumer electronics device, not, as the author said, the iPod?
The eighties aren't coming back and neither is that alien robot from "Flight of the Navigator."
...or...
"Nouveau" minimalist design will always look like shit.
-Dean
I would go even further to say that Apple even encouraged this "scoop". Didn't (as others have already pointed out) Time also leak the Ginger/IT details? Isn't Steve Jobs a backer of Ginger's too? Something smells a little fishy here if you ask me.
It's probably just a marketing technique. Get Time to run the "leak" and freak out about it a little so people get caught up in the shitstorm that follows. A good fight, especially between a big company and a well known media publication keeps peoples' attention. This still keeps them thinking about the main story though, which is basically about selling the product.
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I didn't want to leave this space blank.
It currently says "Just one more sleepless night."
For Steve Jobs, that is, and for the person at Time who screwed up.
"You can buy a PC with a flat-panel display and a built-in DVD burner for around $1,800, the same as the equivalent iMac. But it won't work as well. In part, that's because Apple gives away a number of core programs (iTunes, iMovie, iDVD and, starting this week, iPhoto) that allow you to control your creative life. They do what other PC software does. But they do it better."
I am Jack's HTTP Server
Is it just me or do Mac users always have some new hardware feature. DVD burners or Firewire for example. When Mac's started coming with those, all the Mac users I know like to rub in my face how my computer didn't have it. Of course, they don't ever tell you anything about what kind of DVD burner it is, which is much more important than with CD burners (there are numerous types). Granted they do have some superior hardware, but I find a lot of Mac users just like to rub it in everyones face how their computer has a feature X and the PC's don't. Probably not many Mac users like this in the slashdot crowd, but whatever.
My $0.02.
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All of whose base are belong to the what-now?
I just got off the phone with the webmaster at timecanada.com
We had a good laugh about this. Seems he was following instructions that came from Apple... all the way from the top. This was an orchestrated leak, to generate hype.
My personal feeling is that there will be more to the announcements than just the new iMac.
The design on this thing is going to revolutionize the desk lamp industry!
-Barkeep, a draft of your most hazardous brew, for the world is slowly stepping into focus, and I don't like what I see.
hee hee hhe hhhe
Didn't see a picture of the new one like they had over at Time -- but then when I clicked the "what to expect" link they told me they appreciated my patience while they worked on making the media stream work with my browser. (Mozilla 0.9.5 on Linux.)
A DVD burner is squeezed into the high-end $1,800 model. ($1800)
I am Jack's HTTP Server
Let's say it is a legit picture. Apple staf would have it shut down in minutes. It's an intentional leak to throw people off.
But what possible benefit could there be in letting it leak? It's not like they would have had to wait much longer, Macworld is tomorrow.
Plus, Jobs is a total control freak who really loves the surprise his keynotes give every year. Given that, I'd say someone fucked up big time.
"I may not have morals, but I have standards."
Maybe because they didn't throw them?!
I need numbers. I can't drool over something w/o numbers! If its just the same old 600mhz imac in a different case, then how am I supposed to care about that?
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It looks to me like the server's date is all wonky. All of the stories have the date "January 14, 2002" above them. I'm thinking that someone managed to screw up the date somehow. Maybe they hacked into the NTP (Network Time Protocol) server that timecanada uses, and set it a week ahead? Anyways, by telling their server it was the 14th, it automatically placed the articles for the 14th on its front page.
I doubt that anyone on timecanada's staff could be stupid enough to do this. As other posters have commented, Jobs is gonna blow up like Hiroshima when he sees this...
to accept the praise of personal wisdom is an affront to the very ideal i hold dear.
Still, even if I were in the market for a Mac, I wouldn't buy this. My desk is plenty big enough for a 21" CRT, and I wouldn't enjoy Aqua as much on anything smaller.
Two things can be meant by this:
(1) Keeping the proprietary hardware, but with an x86 instead of a PowerPC.
I don't see the advantage in changing from a chip with plenty of growth room left (PowerPC) to a chip nearing the end of its line (x86). In any case, with this option, it would be an orphan, because it wouldn't run old Mac software, and still wouldn't run Windows, as there are lots of things done differently other than the CPU.
(2) Move over the the whole Intel-PC architecture.
This would mean throwing out Apple's big advantage - that they can integrate the OS and the hardware nicely, they don't have to put all the kludges in to ensure that their OS runs on a vast array of 3rd party hardware. I think Apple wants to be more than just box makers.
In neither case would I regard this as a good thing for Apple or Apple users.
Anyway, this is an old rumour, and would only happen if IBM/Motorola both dropped the PowerPC and forced Apple to change.
I notice that the web site you referred to also talks about the 'iWalk', which I understand has been pretty much discredited.
Well, somebody let the cat out of the bag a few hours early. They should rename this the iSore; this is not really what I was expecting from Apple. I hope they have something more interesting to unveil at MacWorld than this. The new iMac looks like a vanity with a roll-top; hope they stick with the current desktop case for the PowerMac.
Not flamebait, just my two cents. You have to break a few eggs to make an omelet and I'm all for them trying out new designs.
The heartening news is that Apple is doing well, despite the recession. With $4 billion in the bank, and high gross profit margins, it should weather the storm. I'm looking forward to Windows and Linux software for the iPod (gotta love the FireWire) and with the new G5 and high-end G4's around the corner, maybe Apple can grab some converts among multiplatform developers.
Already you can do work in Windows 2k, Linux, and OSX at the same time at a tolerable speed. With faster processors, DDR-RAM, and other goodies I might just plop down the cash for a Mac in 2002. Anybody else thinking of dropping the Wintel/Lintel platform for the forbidden fruit?
yes! and only 25x more expensive! -n-rs-
If this iMac has a G4, will the PowerMac be bumped up to a G5?
Bin Laden was seen having sex with the sleek newly redesigned iMac. Are you guys for real? Ever hear of breaking news stories?
Yes, I too want to see what it's like with a keyboard, mouse, etc, etc, but damn, it looks incredible. I love the fact that the monitor is suspended off your desk. I own a LCD monitor, and thought I gained a ton of deskspace after ditching my CRT. But with this, you're talking about something not much larger than 6-8 inches round. The rest is suspended. THAT'S way freaking cool. Bundle it with iDVD, iTunes, and now iPhoto, and you've got one amazing digital machine for all your creative interests. Nothing Microsoft has created can hold a candle to Apple's applications in this field. Great stuff.
Cool design, yes. Earth shattering, bigger than big? nope. Apple really needs to get out of this niche market if they want to survive. I am still holding out hope that tommorow's announcment will include OS X for Intel.
www.lonseidman.com
MacWorld magazine published an article back in 1995 showing off some Apple prototypes. One of the designs shown (unfortunately the online article is devoid of pictures) is remarkably similiar to the new iMac, though much cooler IMO. It was black in color and the base was a horizontally flattened dome instead of a hemisphere. The LCD was mounted on a metallic boom that pivoted in the middle; the display on one and and a counter weight on the opposite end.
:)
If anyone can can post a picture of this, I'm sure it would get you some quick karma points.
"Leave the strategizing to those of us with planet-sized brains." -Tycho
Who's to say they "screwed up" by releasing the review early? It's still up.. I'm sure if Apple hadn't wanted a public review of it by Time then they wouldn't have asked them to check it out and write a story on it.
Maybe they won't be screwed, afterall..... on the eastern seaboard, it's after midnight right now, the same day at Macworld. Time Canada probably has an agreement with Apple that it can publish the article on the day of MacWorld...... even though there's like 12 more hours till the official announcement.... ;)
that's just a technicality, right??
I can't say that I agree with the strategy, personally with the iBook still around, I don't see the need for a flat-panel iMac. But they are pushing this 'big announcement' at Macworld pretty damned hard for this to be the only thing. Even if it is, at least it's different. I don't know if I like it, but I sure want one.
Can't wait to see someone re-design one of these into the head of an R2D2 and add a light saber eject mechanism.
iSCR3W3D JOBS!
*** Jobs sets mode: +b Timecanada #applefriends
Jobs kicked Timecanada (I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I@(*#&@(*&#(#@# )
And only here on slashdot, I give you an exclusive...
Jobs's Immediate reaction while seeing the Time Article
Mirror Here
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IBM already did a flat panel PC with the computer guts I forget either in the flat panel base or the keyboard. Keyboard PC's go back over a decade and didn't catch on. Maybe now with flat panel they might.
What concerns me about this is it appears typical Steve Jobs and closed system no upgrading. Also typical Jobs probably no cooling fans, so heat could be a big problem, it was with the Cube they did.
I still say Job is still trying to be too cute instead of building market share. OS X is very cool, so get some more affordable Mac's. Put a 14" screen on the iBook.
-Frank
Steve Jobs declares war on Canada.
Bondi blue missiles were seen shooting from a gulfstream jet located somewhere in the Cupertino area...
Slightly off topic, but I'm sure that Apple's got more to release tomorrow than just this iMac. Specifically, you can see a (blurry) picture of something that Jobs is going to show of, at http://stream.apple.akadns.net/
I can't tell what it is. It might just be another iPod, but I'll speculate that it's another "Digital Lifestyle" device, perhaps a demo unit of something like Danger sells. I believe that Apple's buying Danger, so this is possible.
Why is it when Microsoft wants to say how often users upgrade their machine...it is a crime against humanity.
But when Apple wants to do that, plus dictate the entire user experience (create a theme creation app, get sued), silence their critics (Apple Parody sites threatened with lawsuits) and control every single appliance in your house...it is some how "freedom"?
For that much hype... it should have been this amazing device.
::bows down to the infinite glory that is JOBS::
...this made it past the lameness filter, yet when I tried posting an entry from the IOCCC, it barfed at me.
It's kind of weird to see the Emperor of the Clones, Bill Gates, extolling the virtues of creativity, but it's not exactly weird that Apple is doing it. That's its market niche.
.bmp files from Windows users whenever they want to pass along a photo they've taken. Here's to iPhoto and the digital lifestyle! It's not for everybody, but then, that's why Grandma doesn't have slackware on her desktop.
They appeal to the long-haired, hippy-types who want to be (seen as) creative. So they probably will have a digital lifestyle, and be far more likely than anyone who buys a Compaq to actually put together a creative album of stuff.
Hell, it's only been in the past two years that Photoshop has gotten good enough on a PC for serious designers to use it. I still have to deal with massive
First a store-within-a-store at CompUSA, now IKEA!
(Or should that be iKea?)
Kevin Fox
Enjoy.
http://www.geocities.com/ahcrap88
If I were a betting man, I would guess that Apple's stock will jump a little bit tomorrow. And if I hadn't lost so much money in 2000-01 in the @#$&!^ stock market, I'd dump some into AAPL at the beginning of the day Monday just to see where it goes...
Cam
Jobs better have a faster PowerMac, really faster, with a Rapid i/o bus, or I'm going peecee...
I can't help but smile when looking at the new Mac on the cover of Time Canada. I noticed this after the second time I looked at it, because my face was starting to hurt from grinning...is it just me?
No large company can be trusted- Neil Stephenson said it best when he likened Apple to a hippie commune ruled by a control freak Manson-type. While Apple definitely innovates, they have a bastard streak a mile wide.
What we call folk wisdom is often no more than a kind of expedient stupidity.-Edward Abbey
This looks absolutely great.... Apple/Jobs has done it this time... What can you do on a PC that cant be done on a MAC? Not much. The looks alone of this will attract PC users... (Come on... Look at the Colored Schemes of the past and present... The damn Red Compaqs? Too bright for me...)
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On a side note, am I the only one who remembered reading something about this months ago? http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/39/19486.htm
Yes, quite conjectual at the time, but not far off the actual mark..
DocChaos -------- I may be crazy, but then again I may be crazy.
According to this cnet article --> http://investor.cnet.com/investor/news/newsitem/0- 9900-1028-8388611-0.html?tag=ats
The latest issue hit the streets in NY late Sunday with the article in print. This is planned. Something else is up Steves sleeve and this is just baiting. How much you want to bet that the look of the base is airport related. I'll bet the screne is detatchable and pen based as the rumors have been pointing to all week.
Do you guys REALLY have that much hate for a simple hemisphere? Seriously, it's a fucking HEMISPHERE that has a fucking LCD display extending from it. That's a hell of a small footprint for a computer that has a _G4_ processor and a _SuperDrive_ that can burn DVDs in it.
Furthermore, the low-end iMac sells at _$1299_, not $1899. Fuck, that's the price of the original iMac. And how well did the original iMac do? PHENOMENALLY well. So stop flaming the iMac and actually look at it's practical use. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Apple left one of the old-form iMacs at a lower price in for those penny-pinchers.
Oh, and by the way? You think Windows is so much more easy to use than the Mac OS? Hahaha, you must be kidding me.
Ok, First of all Apple has higher class than this thing. Second, Steve would KILL Time for doing it. Third, Apple has been hyping this expo for the last week on their own website, and I personally feel it's a hoax. Here's why: Macintosh rumor sites have been floating rumors of both iPhoto and of a flat panel iMac for months. This article clearly states that both are being released. Apple is not usually a company to release a product that looks like shit, but works well, with a software product that does something others don't. Additionally, Apple always releases their software product to have multiple features that other products in the category do not. Whether you admit it or not, The iPod is cool, it really does embrace everything an MP3 player should be. Sure it's Mac only, but hell, can you blame them. Also, anytime Apple does an interview, Jobs or someone else always makes sure that every product makes it into the spotlight and that all of it's features gets exploited royaly. This article barely mentioned any of the features that the iMac has or of iPhoto. Lastly, Apple's own website earlier this week stated that this would be 'Beyond the rumor sites, way beyond." This is not beyond the rumor sites. It is simply playing to their tune, what they had already been saying. Suck it up, this thing is a hoax. DigitalVolume The Way It Should Be. DigitalVolume@Mac.com , I accept flames with coutesy, andc will respond with pure candor.
Chris Giddings President, Ripple LLC
Newsfactor is only slightly above OSOpinion on the journalistic hierarchy. Most of their articles are simply conjecture.
> It really does look like a desk-lamp...
;^)
> I wonder how much light it produces?
You know, I was thinking the same thing. If it gives out enough light, maybe this could be the first truly useful Mac...
RMN
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On the contrary - when Chris posted the story he said, "Time Canada seems a bit slow", but when I went there, it seemed just fine. That can only mean that this Webmaster not only survived a /.ing, but improved performance of their system in the process. Maybe some heads will roll, but they'd be idiots to fire whoever's running that shop.
-"Zow"
Until recently, all Macs had a start button. . . on the keyboard. It was how you started and turned off the computer.
Recently (okay, late 98) Windows users started complaining about how the Mac lacked a "Start Button," when in fact, what they were referring to was similar to the ancient Apple menu, which like the start button, Apple has gotten rid of this year.
Though I like the design, computer products in general by their very history up to this point have not emphasised an ergonomic bias. Things like the new iMac have to not only appeal to people but they have to demonstrate by their appearance that they are capable without being complicated.
I personally dislike the idea that computer main units do not have real controls on them aside from power and reset. I think an LCD for status messages would be useful. Some control keys.
Besides that though, iMacs are an interesting development.
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Death will come, and will have your eyes
-- Pavese
Geez. Now Apple's stock's going to drop before the market even opens, not at 12 when Steve announces the new product!
Michael C. Hollinger
Consider: why is there even a timecanada.com separate from time.com? Because Canada is struggling desperately to maintain some kind of distinct identity for its media. So TW-AOL is forced to provide a certain amount of Candadian content in Canadian editions of its magazines. And 30 million Canadians don't generate that much news!
I don't think it's the monitor. The semi-sphere on the other hand..
What would be cool is a wireless monitor/keyboard/mouse and a square box.
Hmm.... add a magnifying lens and some motor oil, and you've got the computers from the movie Brazil
I don't care if it's 90,000 hectares. That lake was not my doing.
Apple is the only company buying the Motorola PPC variant in bulk. Motorola is on the ropes now, and will likely charge more that the already premium price it gets for the processors.
The x86 has been at "the end of its line" from the pundits perspective for five years, yet strangely enough the P4 and AMD chips are among the world's fastest processors. There is much more money being spent optimizing x86 compatibility than is being spent on the PPC architecture, and x86 emulation will be around until you die.
This would mean throwing out Apple's big advantage - that they can integrate the OS and the hardware nicely
What does this really mean? FireWire is available in PCs, and plug-and-play is more a function of software. I don't see how Apple's hardware does anything more than create image.
One good thing I can see with the possible success of the new Imac is that LCD prices will only get lower, and the adoption rate increase across the board. That's a "good thing" in my books.
Everyone expects miracles from Jehovah and by-golly this is one! It's like the parting of the Red Sea except it takes out the Nazis out along with the Egyptians!
Jesus as savior was just the accessory I was waiting for to prompt me to embrace religion. God is truly following through on his promise to make Chrisitanity the hub of your spiritual lifestyle.
Dude...get a life.
AC
are you sure that you uploaded the entire thing? it doesn't seem to work.
They laughed at Einstein. They laughed at the Wright Brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. -- C. Sagan
There is a french website with prices in euros... both the timecanada and euro prices convert to approx $800 for the low end 750mhz 14" LCD model, and $1,500 for the high-end superdrive 1GHz model with all the accoutrements. So it really is a LOT more attractive than the nay-sayers would have you believe.. i mean, $800 for that? NOT a bad deal from apple to say the least.
.. tomorrow will tell :)
That french website (a store website, they sell macs at http://www.clginformatique.com/pages/accueil.php) also mentions G4 towers at, get this.. up to 1.4GHz in dual processors. Yowzers. Also that page lists them in text as G4s but also has a G5 button graphic (!)
george
yurtle (at) bellatlantic (dot) net
Creat an innovative design with a price tag that is not
affordable for 95% of its target users, and yet the product is not
very useful to the remaining 5%. Seems to me he is interesting
to invest on technology appliances milestones instead of
making money from selling his product.
Only those who copy his cool design and stuff a PC
inside can sell.........
Sometimes I doubt who is more anti-mac, Steve
Jobs or Bill Gate?
Best as in sticking your foot firmly in your own mouth maybe.
Not that I'm not stuck with three intel (well one's AMD but it's all the same really) boxes here but that doesn't mean I have to like it. Bandwidth within the machine? What's that?
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http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/cn/20020106/tc/new_im ac_features_flat-panel_display_1.html
Just something that I find odd is the Date on the Page " January 14, 2002"? Could this be the case that they are showing an article that is suppose to be publish on the 14th?
I am Pakistani And No! I do not own a 7/11! And my NAME is not Apu! --Zuhaib
So letting a (related) site give out some of the info online isn't so terrible really.
macosrumors also figure that given the iMac is a G4, G5s may be announced tomorrow. I'd say that they'll just make all the higher end machines dual processor, and announce some quad processor configurations.
We'll see.
Ralf
The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt.
-Bertrand Russel
blame canada?
If Apple is so fantastic why don't they create a Word Processor to complete with Word? Multimedia authoring software is either highly specialized (read not iTunes) or just fluff.
G3 chips don't have MP capabilities.
on your site xydyx.com... how did you make it show what site i was referred from? please do tell kind sir :-D
It's been 4 minutes (by my watch) since your post, and the link doesn't work. :(
was the best thing I did wrt support. Hardly any issues at all anymore, and it looks good. They get to show off their machine to others now
Ralf
The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt.
-Bertrand Russel
It looks like a Mallomar. Or a really big whitehead.
- A.P.
"Remember when the U.S. had a drug problem, and then we declared a War On Drugs, and now you can't buy drugs anymore?"
No, this is whats called vertical integration. Its actually an obstacle to becoming a monopoly. If microsoft had started from the beginning with the goal of complete domination of desktop software, internet services, and (soon, with the Xbox and its successor, Homestation) hardware, they would achieve nothing. Rather, they started with programming languages, and pushed their product alongside strong prodcuts from other manufacturers and achieved their monopoly very gradually.
Its true, if Apple had 90% market share it would be truly frightening. But they haven't, ever. In fact, it hasn't even been their goal since Jobs took over (or maybe even before that). They're basically resigned to declining market share, and have decided to concentrate on extracting as much money as they can from their remaining locked-in customers, while attracting enough new users to replace those who defect (like a cigarette company). Hence the iPod, and such. They figure they can keep cutting costs and keep prices high, and they'll still be able to turn a profit.
"(Man) tries to live his own life as if he were telling a story. But you have to choose: live or tell." --Sartre
It could be that their *embargo* agreement was poorly worded. Something like: "The undersigned and the organization represented by the undersigned will not release said material until January 7, 2002." when it should have read "January 7, 2002 1100 AM Pacific Standard Time."
In which case, the idiot who cleared the agreement for Apple had better clean out his/her desk.
There is no trap so deadly as the trap you set for yourself
-Raymond Chandler, The Long Goodbye
Most magazine publications go out a week or two before the date of the issue. The date of this issue was Jan 14, 2002. A week from monday.
If the server is on the east coast, it went up at midnight, as per normal.
No leak, no accident. Just the way the system works.
Looks like Apples first try at the console market. I can't wait to get one. Now I can have a gamecube and a lamp. It will look sweet!
I'm sure it was planned, to boost outside attention on Job's :-)
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keynote(basically, the equivalent of making sure the entire media has
set their VCR's or looked for it on the AP newswire etc) so that
Monday night, it'll be in every single news broadcast, every paper:
"The New iMac, Love It Or Hate It?" will be the headlines everywhere.
This smacks of the same way the Segway was marketed. Release most
of the details the day before on a weekend when people are surfin'
the net, let word get around like wildfire, and the next morning, all
eyeballs are -peeled- on the video footage. I remember hearing that
the human brain works on problems subconsciously during the night, I
wonder if this is a manipulation of that
There will be some discontent within the ranks of Apple fans, and
not because they hate/love it. Apple was making this out to be
"second coming of Christ" type material, really whipping people into
a frenzy, really playing the anticipation for everything it's worth.
I think a lot of people fired up a browser and went: "oh." Which is
pretty much what I said when I saw the iMac, the Blue&White G3, the
G4 powerbook...all style, all "different", but only in style; none
actually represented a major technical innovation. Instead, its just
a different shaped cube with a screen sticking off the top that costs
more than a laptop computer and takes up about the same about of desk
space, if not much more(remember, keyboard, mouse, etc?) Datalux and
countless other small-PC makers have been doing this really-small,
no-fan computer business for years for
embedded/industrial/POS/medical systems(along with flat panel
displays, BTW.)
$50 says the neck mechanism breaks or the brakes on the hinges
go(ask any Powerbook user about the hinges on their Powerbook and
have earplugs ready.) What will you do then? Prop it up with a
bunch of books? How will that affect to the "flow" of the design?
I can't wait for the iMac "viagra" repair kits.
Then there's the whole issue of this not actually being innovation,
and more like Steve and/or his designer staring at the Pixar
logo(with Luxo, the desk lamp) too long.
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There are some posts here that are too enthusiastic about something we know too little about. With subjects like "It's Beatiful, It's Functional..." or "I Think It's Incredible" I'm a bit suspicious. In fact, I think I have a friction burn on my index finger by clicking some of those links...
Perhaps if the embargo agreement said "do not release until January 7, 2002" instead of "January 7, 2002 1100a.m. PST." Time-canada could claim that they released it January 7, 2002.
In which case, the Apple doofus who signed the agreement for Apple should get in nice and early tomorrow and start cleaning out his/her desk.
There is no trap so deadly as the trap you set for yourself
-Raymond Chandler, The Long Goodbye
Seeing as how the date on the page says January 14th...which is next week here in the states. But then again, Canadia is always trying to be different!
How can like the design of something that's closed? It's like saying you admire the way Office uses data structures or the purity of the chemical composition of Coca-Cola as it relates to the original formula.
I think it's more like he's saying "I like the taste of Coke" not the chemical composition.
He's not saying he likes the engineering process of making the machine, he likes the final result. In fact, this is the only thing that matters to non-engineers.
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Actually, Apple's always made it quite a point to not purchase (or bribe) product placement.
And the reason all computers are shown from the back when possible is to avoid display refresh interlock issues.
The reason lots of macs end up in movies and television is because macs are used to make a lot of movies and television, so they tend to have them lying around.
"We are wallowing in digital cameras and camcorders and MP3 players that get harder to use, not easier. The thing that will connect us to our gadgets needs to be a digital hub, a computer designed to simplify our lives. This, Jobs says, is what Apple was meant to do-and it's what no one else in the PC world is doing."
:( Great, WTF am I supposed to do NOW with these gazzilion drive bays I have? Bleh.
;) )
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Partialy true I guess.
I have a full tower case and I have had a BITCH of a time finding some DECENT front mount USB ports for it. (A kit that fits 6+ in one 5.25" drive bay without me needing to cut something out by hand.)
Ended up having to go with an external hub.
Still though, the computer is NOT the problem.
Every friggin digital camera manufacturer having to use a SLIGHTLY different mini-USB cord _ARE_ part of the problem.
Piss poor unsupported wireless device connectivity standards are part of the problem. There is NO reason that Damn Near Every consumer keyboard made for awhile now shouldn't have had a built-in wireless transmitter and some rechargable batteries. A docking station for nighttime to recharge the batteries would also have been nice but not neccisary. (mine as well use regular cells though if your not going to have a docking station for easy convenience).
My PC cost ~$500. Back in 1q01. (January of 01 to be more precise).
I could likely get it now for ~$400.
Flip switch, it turns on, enter PW, it goes to desktop with my apps lined up, I click an app, app runs. Run application run.
I am done, I hit the power button and it turns off. Win2K has an auto-ShutDownTheRightDamnWay feature when you hit the power button.
Unforutnatly some piece of hardware doesn't like hibernate mode or else I'd just hit the power button again and it'd go right back to my desktop. (I know what it is, just gotta getup off my ass and install the driver for it. Not using that piece of HW so I haven't bothered yet.
It works.
Tada.
Simple. As. Pie.
Ok so its 2 and a half feet tall and made outa beiege steel.
But damnit;
/I LIKE BEIEGE STEEL/.
Fuck
I _LOVE_ Beiege Steel.
I can fucking _STAND_ on my computer. It can support over TWO HUNDRED damn pounds. IT IS A REAL MANS FRIGGIN TOY.
It also doubles as a Space Heater. (Man I love AMD. My hands used to get numb in the winter, now they don't.
The 18" Graphics Tablet _COULD_ stand to be wireless though. Heh. Or at least USB compliant. Oh well it cost an arm and a leg as it was, USB support would've cost me even more back then, bleh. (2 or 3 years ago when I first got it.)
My SCSI scanner is larger then these new apple things though. Of course my SCSI scanner also weight ~8lbs (bare minimum, Afga Duoscan T1200) and Win2k seems to hate ANY SCSI card I put in it so hey, heh. Things could get simplier I guess.
Once again
I WANT A DECENT WIRELESS STANDARD DAMNIT!!! Cheap. Easy to impliment. Secure. Perferably *with a variable range selector*. You know. Say 5ft-7.5ft for my scanner and printer, 15-20ft for my keyboard, etc.
I just wanna walk up to my computer and have my Digicams memory card appear on my list of drives.
That'd be keen. That'd Command all Keen.
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Yes, yes, it is a cube, but price might be very cheap.
The cube was something like $1700 USD without a monitor!
This is with a flatscreen, albeit tiny, and it will start at about $800 USD - the prices from the CANADIAN article would be in CANADIAN funds - and every red blooded American knows what the Canadian Franc is worth - don't you?
Funny thing, is that some of the posts I have read at macnn, and macslash have silly Yankees saying that they are happy about the pricing - not realizing that it will actually be cheaper by about 40% with the USD - CDN dollar conversion.
Goes to show you how little price really means - it is all relative, and the consumer isn't all that smart.
Drop your fucking prices!!!! I would have purchased a Mac long ago if I could get the same price/performance as I can out of x86 hardware. Seriously, do you think it's better to make gobs of money and sell few machines, or make a small amount on tons of machines? Increasing your market share by dropping your prices can only be a good thing, both for you and consumers. It's no secret that your profit margins are huge.
Everytime I think about a Mac, I just get angry that you want to rape me for one. I'll stick to x86 and linux until you drop your pricing. Until then, have fun with your 3% market share.
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i cant believe some idiot actually gets paid to come up with those unuseable designs
ahh well itll get setevie on the front of time, so i guess itll serve its purpose.
hell they may even sell one or two of them.
mac guys: before you get all high and mighty about how advanced apples ergonomic designs are & everything, let me say that the same thing could be done in the pc world, its just that we know better, well most of us, (ahem ibm)
anybody care to take a guess at how long that little ball joint will last on the monitor support before you have to prop it up with something? & finally we get to have the same screen flicker due to wire crimping that weve been so fond of in the laptop world.
personally ill take a good ol crt over a lcd any day. but then i actually use my computer for computing, it isnt just a web terminal.
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The desktop of display model in the photo has the same background as the computer I'm typing from. It's this kde theme. Just thought I'd share, kinda wierded me out for a sec.
They're right. The new iMac is the most revolutionary new computer. EVER! (Yawn.)
Dude! CA$1800 = US$1100.
Perhaps the article's comment that the original iMac sells for CA$1200 confused you? =)
Canada is far more wired than the US, and the telecommunications here is more advanced in general.
Even things as simple as pay phones. You can't
swipe a credit card in almost all of Bell Atlantic's pay phones. Any the pay phones don't have digital display. In canada, you can not only swipe your credit card on the phone, but you can buy a smartcard to use the phone at any corner store.
-More people in Canada have broadband access than in the U.S. do to a much higher rate of cable television access.
-Canada's phone infrastructure became 100% digital in the early 80's. It took the US more than a decade to follow suit.
and these are just a few things off the top of my head. Next time don't be too quick to judge!
I predict 10 years from now the webmaster of timecanada.com will still be driving the same car.
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/cn/20020106/tc/new_im ac_features_flat-panel_display_1.html
While MS is building sandcastles, Apple is as usual building real castles...
There's a world of difference between a few loose prints I could just as easily get from ePhoto or whereever, and a whole photograph ALBUM custom printed for you!
A slight correction as well - the article said $30 for a 10-page album.
Just like iMovie lets you take a lot of boring footage and shrink it to a size easily digestible to others, so iPhoto will let you make a nice summary of vacation and produce a book for you taking a lot of work out of putting together a nice photo album of a trip! I personally am backup up about four trips worth of pictures waiting to go in albums that I already have. Now I think I'll just buy a film scanner and have Apple make the albums for me.
This is the kind of thing that makes computers useful to the consumer, rather than to the computer user.
The computer user in me wants a few server boxes in the house (which I have) and a powerful laptop and desktop for development - but the consumer side of me is going to buy an $1800 DVD-burning iMac to put down by the home entertainment center.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
I was struck by the resemblence of the new iMac to the oft-used Pixar lamp.
Considering that, this new design is no real surprise.
I used to keep an apple around for photoshop and illustrator...but there is no longer a reason. Everything that runs on apple runs on PC as well or better. A MAC is no easier to use, and crashes just as much as a PC. And things like DVD burning and mp3 players and all that apple crap are available for PC. Time to toss the rotten fruit in the garbage people. Give me a good reason to have a MAC!?!
It looks like some kind of gadgety "computer hat" -- screen flips over so you can wear it and view it at the same time -- of vaguely japanese and vaguely geeky origin.
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That is sooo beautiful I just had to stroke myself to orgasm!! nnnnggghhhh
Here is a good reason to have a Mac you useless twits. I have one, I am better than you, you look up to me and want to be like me!
Actulay I have 2 desktops and an iBook, and 1 linux box. So buy all of those, oh and I bought an iPod wensday (jan 2) it's cool buy it too!
Don't forget to take the different time zone into account though!
Its a shame that people are buying MACs just cause they look neato!! Save a few hundred dollars and buy a PC that can do everything a MAC can do and more!
According to reputable media, this issue of Time is on newsstands in New York City:
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-8388611.ht
Almost five years ago.
It was the 20th Anniversary Mac.
And the retail price was $10,000.00.
The f-cked company I worked at had one in the R&D department, and a friend of mine was able to take it with him(!) when he cashed out and left for greener pastures. He has it on display in his house in the Hollywood Hills, using playing MP3s he's downloaded. So now it's pretty much eye- and ear-candy.
I'm still unsure of what to think about this new iMac. Obviously the specs are better and the price is much more affordable, but I've always liked how elegant that 20th Anniversary Mac looked. Of course, you get what you pay for, and considering how quickly computers depreciate in value, if I actually bought one of those Macs at that price years ago, I'd have had a heart attack by now.
I know a LOT of people (myself included) who have a lot of vacation pictures sitting around, just waiting to be made into albums... I even have the albums, it's just that sorting through a lot of pictures and pasting them all in a photo album takes a lot of time and patience (especially when more than one person is involved).
.NET and dynamically loaded plugins sold to you just as dynamically.
So producing the photo album on demand really is a great idea, and fantasically useful...
But the genius part of it is the widespread advertising Apple will get from this. People will make custom albums, and bring them into work to show co-workers oor give them away as presents furthering Apple's image to non-Apple users.
It's just because people are too busy to put together a photo album that this will fly!
Jobs has it figured out - get people to use the computer to make THINGS. Custom DVD's (only $1800 for a DVD burning iMac!), custom music mixes burned onto CD's, custom photo albums. People collect THINGS.
Gates doesn't think it terms of THINGS, he thinks in terms of SOFTWARE - A Video editor, A music player, a photo editor. Jobs wants you to pay for THINGS, while Gates wants you to pay for SOFTWARE - buy Windows, pay for updates, pay more for moore powerful additions to software via
My guess is that people really don't want to collect SOFTWARE (Ok, except for you warez guys!). Most people like physical things, it's exactly the reason why CD and DVD sales remain strong in a world of Gnutella and the ilk. I could download DAFT Punk or Freezepop, but I like to support artists and I like looking through CD booklets (DAFT Punk has the right idea by the way - they give you a custom membership number with every CD. Stuff like that wil help keep CD's going strong).
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
It wouldn't be the guy responsible for feeding the servers or administering the database responsible for this.
I'd say the editorial team who clicked the submit button a day early were the ones who will be getting a debriefing.
But then again, I haven't a clue how their organisation is structured. It might just be one guy feeding the servers, wearing the pager, doing the accounts, laying out the pages, creating artwork, writing stories, and editing.
Y'know, despite the tone of parts of the Time Canada article, and despite the noise some of the Pragmatic Windows Users make around here, Apple really is doing it right.
Yeah, they could "pack in a Windows emulator", or try peddling OS X for Intel, or in some other way "embrace the Dark Side" (as Time Canada put it) and "find other bridges to the Windows-Intel world".
But crap, who the hell would buy Apple stuff if they turned into a More Of the Same company? Right now, I am in the process of "converting to Apple". I'm buying in. If I need a new PC, it's going to be a Mac. When the time comes for a new laptop, it'll be a Mac. Any peripherals that I buy-- the CD-RW drive I'm ordering, cameras (still or video), anything that can possibly be connected to a computer-- will damn well be Mac-compatible.
Why am I going down that road? Because after years of just not getting it, after years of selling overpriced semi-useful junk (sorry, but System before OS X definitely crippled their computers), Apple is getting it right and nobody else seems to. The power and flexibility of their new OS is outstanding, the simplicity and integration of their software and hardware is wondrous to behold, and their hardware itself is gorgeous and quiet and solidly built.
Of course, I'm only speaking of my home, at least for now. Apple's products do seem heavily geared toward the home user, and it shows in the design choices they make. Their stuff is not ideal for the work that I do professionally, and I hope it never is-- that would mean sacrificing some of the slickness and simplicity and beauty that it does have, and I need that kind of stuff in my house.
But they start at $1200, and if I'm going to spend that kind of cash, why not spend an extra few hundred dollars and get a PowerMac?
Because it's an all-in-one deal. If you buy a G4 tower you have to purchase a display separately.
I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
Also, what if the computer's interface were partially (even if only in a miniscule way) submerged into consumer-level controls? A printer has status lights, better ones have LCD panels. A simple wiring diagram could tell you which peripherals were working. I know it sounds a bit strange, but think of cars -- do they mandate only one form of interaction?
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Does it have a orintation censor so if I krazy glue it to the ceiling the display will flip verticly?
:) One use for that flexi-monitor thingy! Hehe. Use it in bed. :) Have a monitor hanging down and a wireless keyboard/mouse combo. w00t. This thing could be halfway cool after all, LOL!
That'd rock.
Oh wait, its a mac, N/M.
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Even Slashdot wants to hide some things
The "ikea". The thing looks like a table lamp, but my gf likes it so it might actually sell. (I like the inverted celing mount thing that another post suggested)
If you click on the link now, it takes to to the Time.com page, not the Time Canada page (timecanada.com).. Looks like someone from Apple made the call.
I am Pakistani And No! I do not own a 7/11! And my NAME is not Apu! --Zuhaib
(upper) "The show starts at 9 a.m. Pacific."
:)
(lower) "Watch the live webcast in QuickTime."
You heard it here first.
- Cary
timecanada.com now fwds you to time.com
i thought i heard some yelling.... yikes
TimeCanada.com now redirects to Time.com. That was quick. Guess it's not a fake eh? (Kidding). Nice machine, I still think there is somethine else up Steve's sleeve. I hope so anyway.
-jg
timecanada.com now redirected to time.com - guess someone at Apple screamed.
www.timecanada.com now redirects you to www.time.com, sans iMac story
Kill yourself you pathetic sicko
Try this and let me know if it works. K Thx Bye
They just changed it (finally) so that it's redirecting to time.com.
Someone got a taste of Steve Jobs' infamous temper, I can only assume.
http://timecanada.com/index.adp to see the picture, its on the front page btw.
Or you can just goto:
http://timecanada.com/story.adp?storyid=1
http://www.timecanada.com now redirects to http://www.time.com/time. I guess it was a goof and not a stunt. And I guess the doofus at timecanada just got his pink slip.
There is no trap so deadly as the trap you set for yourself
-Raymond Chandler, The Long Goodbye
Ultimately, yes, cars, if well-designed, should put as little thought as possible between driver and road. This is not intended to sound snarky, but it's obvious you're not a Mac user because you're used to your computer requiring that much tweaking.
A Mac user NEVER enters BIOS. There's nothing like it on a Mac (except maybe "Open Firmware" but that code is only entered for firmware updates. Because of Apple's hardware/software integration, you never need to have the BIOS auto-detect and assign letters and drive sizes, or go into some archaic menu-driven system to tell the computer what volume to boot from. It's all there, integrated, into the OS. You don't even need a disk eject button.
Put a display on a hammer that measures how much force is exerted, and a carpenter will take longer using that hammer because the display is a distraction. I like buttons and knobs too, but I don't like having more than necessary on my serious work tools.
The article's been mirrored several times in the comments here, and the pictures weren't much -- although I see them mirrored in uuencoded ascii here -- so if you missed it, you shouldn't be missing out on too mcuh. Besides, the official announcement from Jobs and Apple is only a little over 12 hours away.
-- Imagine how much more advanced our technology would be if we had eight fingers per hand.
http://timecanada.com/story.adp?storyid=1
They *did not* took down timecanada.com, they just have it redirected at time.com. So the link still works =D
I am Pakistani And No! I do not own a 7/11! And my NAME is not Apu! --Zuhaib
Timecanada.com now forwards to time.com. Guess steve had his way. Only after like 200,000 people have seen it and have donwloaded the images.
here. At least you can as of 01/06/2002 2342 PST.
There is no trap so deadly as the trap you set for yourself
-Raymond Chandler, The Long Goodbye
looks like apple (or time) killed the story. the link now forwards to time.com. oh well, hope everyone got a look that wanted it.
here. But probably not for long...
There is no trap so deadly as the trap you set for yourself
-Raymond Chandler, The Long Goodbye
These things look damn beautiful where they are intended to go. They are kiosks. They are the nicest-looking kiosks money can buy. Imacs always have been. A row of these things on a stand in a lobby, or tucked away in a conference room, would look great. They have a minimalist, comfortable aesthetic that says "come, touch me. I'm all plastic and safe." It shows you exactly what you can do with it, and it doesn't have anything extraneous. For example, there is no "turbo" button. When a company or an institution spends millions to design a building to make it look just right, spending a few thousand on computers that compliment that look is quite understandable.
They would also look great in the home. Yes, they are a little 50's hal 2001 retro, which isn't quite as cool as as the 60's retro of the original Imac but is still very nice. They look a lot like an uncomplicated, friendly little screen designed to be exactly, and only, a little digital hub. While the lack of tivo style options is sad, the little thing really does look like a piece of complimentary design work... like a pretty plastic toaster for your MP3 player. I wouldn't want it to replace the k-6 linux box sitting next to me, but I'm jealous of anyone who can afford to put one of these in their living rooms.
Of course, afford is a keyword. Apple has never stormed the mass market, because it knows that the money is to be made in the high-end. That's how they have been surviving, and more power to them.
-Story update!-
Timecanada.com is now forwarding to time.com, which doesn't have the original story. However, the original, sans photos, is still (as of 2:30 AM EST) available here
This Sig is a mnemonic device designed to allow you to recognize this author in the future.
The link is now gone, and has been forwarded to http://www.time.com/time/.
Would it be immoral to post the PDF printout of that page somewhere on the 'net? Quick, someone stop me.
n/t
Pushin' 'n dealin', shovin' 'n stealin'
See that
Simply look in the following months, year how the other hardware business will react to the new iMac style.
...Still, my PPC8500/180 is under the table...still usable...for my girlfriend, but I need to get a new mac. ....I still have my AppleIIc but OS X won't run on it :(
I wouldn't be surprise to see LCD attached to the box the same way with small boxes in different shapes.
Apple create a style on it's own that other business try to copy.
MS is the best example for the OS. When I first saw XP, I just felt it was a ugly try to do like OS X.
When I saw all the new PC with iMac kinda style or new design....same thing.
Yeah, at least, Sony understood how 'design' work. They make nice boxes with their 'own' style. BRAVO.
I might get one....if not a powermac. Just for fun.
evand wrote:
"First of all, her needs are simple. She needs to check her email, surf the web, and use a word processor. With Mail.app, Internet Explorer/OmniWeb, and AppleWorks, her needs are fulfilled."
A 486 running QNX will do it for about a thousand or three cheaper. Hit the MIT Flea Market this year if you're in New England and discover what machines considered obsolete almost a full decade ago can actually accomplish.
Regards,
Limekiller
My
Limekiller
When I click on the link in the topic I get redirected to time.com.
Only this one http://www.timecanada.com/index.adp brings up the frontpage + Apple picture.
Geographical redirect maybe?
"The likes of Facebook and WhatsApp are free to those whose privacy is of zero value."
http://www.timecanada.com/index.adp
Here is the photo they left out: Think Different
I'd guess that your CDRW was 20x, though I'm no expert - it's just a guess.
:)
The problem with your statement is that knocking on wood doesn't always work, and sometimes it's important to know - in which case you're SOL. Plus, some of us are just curious, and can't help but wonder
The last price was $2000 at the Apple Store for it.
According to this CNet article, the 1/14 issue of Time hit newsstands in NYC on Sunday night, iMac on the cover and e'ythang. No need for the conspiracy theories this time.
I just got off the phone with the director of the CIA. He says you're lying. They're watching you...
Guys, you may hate or love Apple...the number of post regarding the Apple article on /. are quite high.
:)
Apple is the most innovative company...bring justice to it.
How? Use it!!!
Time appears to have removed it.
[fnord] http://baked.ath.cx/imac/ [/fnord]
Oh well.
Without the ads, and stuff that clutter up your screen/reading attention:
d =1
http://www.timecanada.com/printstory.adp?storyi
but I thought an embargo was a promise to not trade with a legal entity (ie, a govt or corp), and not a non disclosure agreement. Of course, I'm talking out of my ass here - is this an alternate usage of embargo?
Apple needed a bedlamp?! I thought the most important thing was to get that +1GHz CPU.
Ok, now they may have some light in the gloom...
TimeCanada.com has been fixed to redirect to Time.com
Instead, for the picture, go to:
http://timecanada.com/index.adp
For the article use:
http://timecanada.com/story.adp?storyid=1
http://www.timecanada.com/index.adp
http://www.timecanada.com/index.adp
it is common usage in the magazine-publishing business (at least with tech products, which is what I'm familiar with) to talk about embargo date as being the NDA release date or the date on which information provided in an advance press release can be disclosed to the public.
"Biped! Good cranial development. Evidently considerable human ancestry."
Yeah, and the Porche 911 is no different from 500 other cars out there, four wheels and a steering wheel. Some of them can go farther on one tank of gas than the 911. Some have better acceleration. Some of them have more comfortable seats. But none of them have all of the features of the 911, sleek design, great handling, and fun to drive.
If you want to show me the mp3 player that is the best looking, easiest to use, fastest to search through 5GB of songs and one that fits in your pocket, you'll need to show me the iPod. Drop by an apple store and check one out.
There is no trap so deadly as the trap you set for yourself
-Raymond Chandler, The Long Goodbye
I'm hearing the same lame critiques of the new iMac on Slashdot that I heard when the original iMac was released. Didn't matter then and doesn't matter now. The Slashdot crowd is -- and probably always will be -- for the most part incapable of thinking past their own noses. If the iMac was designed to appeal to you all, these criticisms might matter, but it isn't.
If there's one thing I've learned in the years that I've been reading/participating on Slashdot, its that if a story doesn't directly relate to Linux then the Slashdot crowd is no better or worse at predictions or product critiques than any other random collection of folks.
Opinions are like... well, you know how the saying goes.
Jobs did have alot (sic) to do with Pixar at one time...
Uh...like for instance being its CEO?
Did the story just go offline?
Does that mean Jobs is Davros?
One of the upgrades can be tits, err Dalek Bumps....
It's a shaving mirror!
damn i wouldn't want to be the poor admin who set the date on the content publishing software ahead by a week
steve is going to have that poor sod's job...
cute little thang tho...
that this thing is the most unique product ever... even though IBM's been selling a pretty much identical product for over a year.
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The NetVista X Series.
Oh well...
http://commerce.www.ibm.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce/C
Casual Games/Downloads
Though I could be wrong.
That Weasel
Many readers have already stated how this thing looks like Luxo
Jr. from them Pixar short. I have noticed that many mac sites and fans like to give
distiguishing nick-names to the different mac models to help stop
confusion. I mean how many rev's are there to the iMac yet they are
all called "iMac". Perhaps "Luxo", "Luxo Jr." or my favorite simply "Jr."
"iMac Jr." is cool, kind of like "My First Sony".
Be sure to go get the short film. it is quite good. http://www.pixar.com/shorts/ljr/index.html
(Pixar.com).
I know when i get mine I'm gonna name it Junior. And all I'll have
to do is move my small tv off my desk and it will fit right in with
my (2) 17" CRT's I use for Photoshop. My desk looks a little more like
the console in The Matirx everyday.
-jim
www.geocities.com/younkin3
Say what you want about MacOS, the new imac design is sweet! Of course, by the time you add a pile of plug -in peripherals it won't look half as cool...but if I had money to throw around, I'd buy one. It makes more sense on a cramped desk, in 35 degree (Celsius) heat, than my giant beige AMD behemoth with the extra-toasty 17" monitor.
It would be nice to be able to squeak the whole machine in the space you'd put a vase.
Small is the future for home and office pcs. I love powerful, expandable workstations as much as anybody but they're horribly inefficient in power and in the heat and waste they produce. Bring on the (small, cute) future!
-- INTX Grouch. http://www.midnightblue.net
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They that quote Benjamin Franklin on liberty and safety deserve neither.
I had a vision of something like this a few days ago, except the components were inside a separate dome-shaped translucent plastic chassis and the monitor-on-a-stick was connected by an ADC cable.
If this is indeed Apple's next iMac there are some obvious problems. I'd better state them before I get caught up in the RDF tomorrow.
Too much like the cube.
Could the iBlob be the hub of your digital lifestyle? Firewire and USB connectors make it easy to attach a myriad of little translucent rectangular devices with Apple logo on the back. But what else can you attach to this lamp-like appliance? How much memory can you add? Get ready for the Inquisition once more, Apple!
The display sits too high.
According to ergonomic principles the top edge of your display should be level with your line of sight or even a little lower for extended usage periods. Sitting on my desk the iBlob
The display is too small - it's an iBook display.
Simply a matter of the display being disproportionate to the base. If the base were smaller or separate from the display it might make a difference. An awful lot of folks familiar with the iBook are going to scoff because you get hardly anything more than you get with an iBook - without the portability. Even if it's a G4 machine it won't do much to convince anyone. Photoshop benchmarks will not sell this appliance.
Expandability expandability expandability
I can't see a DVD slot on the front, can you? What about PCI slots? These questions are going to be relevant if this machine comes in above the $999 price point. The iBlob is poised to inherit the iMac mantle, but it's a very new appearance for a computer and can't avoind inheriting the legacy of the Cube as well. How can this be successful? Only on the merits of its features.
Versatility versatility versatility
The venerable CRT-based iMac had the benefit of familiarity. It was immediately evident to anyone who saw it that it was a console. It might sit atop a swiveling base but it would remain otherwise stationary. The iBlob has the appearance of a modular system but it probably isn't. The screen probably swivels but I'm guessing it will not be removable. You won't be able to hook another computer to its display for presentation purposes.
Where can one envision such a machine living? I see it in the corner of a countertop, in a boutique, atop a restaurant podium.... This is not a computer made to sit down at, but to stand near. But even for these uses the base is a bit too large. Maybe this is why I favor two separate pieces.
After all of Apple's hype the iBlob is not likely to receive the accolades it probably deserves on some level. I just hope Steve doesn't feel compelled to bring out the team of "special" people who gave birth to this ugly duckling. Time will tell if it is to become a swan or end up as carrion for buzzards.
-- thinkyhead software and media
http://www.timecanada.com/weekly/070102/gr/TopPhot o_140102.jpg
You snooze, you lose.
There is no trap so deadly as the trap you set for yourself
-Raymond Chandler, The Long Goodbye
...display would stand a few inches above my line of sight so that I'd see eye to eye with the top of the Dock. There is something strangely retro about the iBlob. It would be right at home in the Flintstones' cave.
-- thinkyhead software and media
At this URL:
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...so all the hype was about a giant rectangular webcam. I'd still go for one of these things instead: http://www.alphasmart.com/products/as3000_overview .html
Now if there were only a way to view donkey porn on it....
-- anthony
- http://www.timecanada.com/index.adp
- http://www.timecanada.com/story.adp?storyid=1
- http://www.timecanada.com/story.adp?storyid=1&par
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- http://www.timecanada.com/story.adp?storyid=1&par
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- http://www.timecanada.com/story.adp?storyid=1&par
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- http://www.timecanada.com/story.adp?storyid=1&par
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. Any and all pages are now being redirected to http://www.time.com/time/. So does this mean that www.timecanada.com messed up, BIG time?Ahahahahahahaha...good one.
Slackware - because apt is for the lazy.
are you guys blind or what?
any of you try and access Time Canada by typing in "www.timecanada.com"? Apple Computer and Time magazine are having a whole lot of fun at your expense. sure there's going to be a new iMac but it won't look like this. curves and ball shapes are not where Apple Computer is heading. Wait until tonight and then see what Stevosonic reveals
Surely there must be something else! A flat-panel iMac could not possibly warrant the marketing wagon that's been rolling through recentely.
You're right in that most Mac users don't do that kind of work on the machines, but I like to wonder what would happen if they did...
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Death will come, and will have your eyes
-- Pavese
I was able to mirror the first two pages before they pulled them. Page 1 and Page 2.
if someone can host i'll e-mail them out..
include an e-mail of some sort
... recommend this magnificent hardware to me, 'cause you don't know what it is? Hmm. That sounds really stupid to me; one should always have a faint idea of what the hardware is. That way, you can keep clear of bad hardware, and go shopping for good - and recommended - hardware instead.
The one thing that makes me think it might have beek OK for Time to post the news is that the article referred to the new iMac thusly:
"which will be unveiled at the annual Macworld convention in San Francisco this week"
Which seems to indicate it was written to be released ahead of the actual unveiling.
Of course, that argument made more sense to me before they started redirecting to the main Time web site! Now I'm leaning to the thought that your assesment was correct, and this was a massive blunder.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
I know looks are subjective, but there are some basic principles of aesthetics. Most people will agree that something gorgeous is at least attractive, or that something heinous is at least unattractive. And this flat-paneled thingie is pretty heinous.
I say this as someone who has liked Apple's aesthetics a lot. Visuals do mean something to me, which is why I chose my PC case based on both functionality and aesthetics. The original iMac had a great aesthetic--it was different and new, and yet it could blend in pretty seamlessly in almost any environment. It wouldn't look out of place in your living room or home office whether the decor were ultra-modern or quite old-fashioned. It looked at home in offices and schools and computer labs. And it looked good doing it.
But this flat-paneled monstrosity looks like a refugee from the movie *2001: A Space Odyssey*. In other words, it looks like a 1960's conception of a futuristic 21st century design. Looking at that film now, it's a wonderful film, but all the design elements look so conspicuous as to be almost laughable. And so does this new flat-panel presumed iMac. Whereas the old iMac dsign took a few moments to get used to but then blended right in naturally as if the design were obvious, this thing will always look conspicuously out of place unless your decor is 60's ultra-modern. I can't picture this is an old-fashioned office at all. And aesthetically, it just isn't attractive. It's an LCD on a stalk with a clunky base. It looks rather like a ladies' cosmetic mirror, actually--from the 60s.
And the flaws are functional, too. An awful lot of iMacs go into the educational sector--but not these. Why? Because, with the small LCD and smallish base and the mobility of the swiveling stalk, one of these could easily be slipped into a backpack or duffel bag. Public schools won't want them because they'll be easy to steal. Libraries won't want them because they'll be easy to steal. College labs won't want them because they'll be easy to steal. Basically, anything fairly public would be a bad place to put these things. It's a laptop on a stick. It's just begging to get stolen. And it kinda ruins the whole aesthetic--not that it was a good one in the first place--when such public places as do buy them start putting big ugly bicycle chains around the stalks.
What does this ugly, gangly design have that others don't? It offers greater mobility for swiveling your LCD screen since it's attached to that weird stalk instead of to the base just as most (far better looking) rumor site concept art had it. Now, even though half a dozen Mac zealots and one or two PC guys who are a lot closer to their computers than any average home users are, are going to dispute this, the fact is that most people sit their monitors (or iMacs) where they want them, adjust once, and leave everything be. Even in multi-user environments, tilting the monitor a little takes half a second and is even easy for a young kid--I just nudged my gigantic 20 inch CRT monitor around with ease, and it's a lot more heavy and bulky and crowded on all sides than most monitors will ever be. There's just not a need for the average user to have a swiveling stalk, which will only contribute to people thinking it looks really stupid. I think this is a case of Apple having graphic designers in mind more than home users and average guys and educational institutions--which is a mistake since graphics professionals are more likely to shell out for the extra horsepower of a more expensive Mac, not an iMac. The design here is just very, very poorly targeted to its demographic. Average home users--the bread and butter of the iMac market segment--are going to think this thing looks ugly.
What they should have done instead of this gangly monstrosity is to use the Cube design, but for the new LCD iMac. It was a gorgeous, award-winning design. Many, many people said they would have bought it if they could afford it. Instead of plopping an LCD atop a stick attached to an oversized AirPort unit (which is what this new design looks like), Apple should have redesigned the Cube, packaged it with an LCD monitor, and that should have been the new flat panel iMac. It's not quite as integrated as connecting the central unit to the LCD with a stick, but methinks even the most lame of home users know how to stick a wire from the LCD into the Cube. If they were too dumb to even do that, then how could they even plug in their modem wire from an old iMac to the wall plate?
Yes, the Cube design should have been harvested for Apple's new LCD iMac. Everyone loved it. The design was practically universally praised, (except the mould lines) and the only reason it didn't succeed was that it was priced way above the iMacs but very close to the full, powerful G4 towers. Opinion is clearly mixed at best on this new thingie, however. a Cube with LCD design for the new iMac would still be compact and relatively light and hence suffer from the same "stealability" factor which I mentioned may deter public schools and such from upgrading to the new iStalks, but at least it wouldn't look ugly and stick out in almost any decor, it would look gorgeous and complement any environment. Either way, if public schools and libraries upgrade to a newer lighter iMac, they'll have to chain them down with a vengeance whereas the old iMac was better suited thanks to its CRT bulk and heft. Flat panels in general are a poor choice for such environments thanks to stealability and the relative ease of damaging an LCD's more delicate screen.
At any rate, I think I've made it obvious that while I liked the old iMac design and the G4 Cube design and even the Apple tower designs, I hate this new "iStalk" design. It truly looks like a piece of set dressing from *2001: A Space Odyssey*, and hence just too bizarre to fit in here in the real world. The primary advantage of having the LCD on the swiveling stalk, ease of moving the screen, is also an advantage few of the iMac's target demographic will really use--oh, and it also makes the LCD prone to get repositioned too frequently for comfort, if you're the type of person who likes to get his monitor or TV just-so.
And finally--it wouldn't take a clumsy person to knock one of these off a desk and break it; it would only take a quick accidental arm movement. I'm sure the base is extra-sturdy with just this in mind, but you just know several people will knock these things down by accidentally hitting the LCDs.
My final, final word: Yep, Apple should have just put the Cube together with an LCD monitor and branded it the new imac, instead of creating this ugly beast. the Cube had aesthetic splendor, while this is aesthetic squalor...
Chasing Amy
(We all chase Amy...)
"The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws"-Tacitus
http://24.69.0.145/new-imac.html
Ok this isn't quite a mirror, I ripped the text and put the relevant image at the top, I got it under 40K. I didn't read it over but I think it's all there and the formatting came out right.
This area of our new site is currently being developed. Check back with us in a few weeks, and enjoy the extended capability of the new timecanada.com."
Yeah right, more like: "Our webmaster has been fired for screwing up BIG time. Need a job?"
guys he must be joking.
what the hell is the target-audience for this piece-o-crap ? the forbes 500 ?
Never happen. The last computer to have "Jr." added to the name was the IBM PC Jr, which was a flop. Nobody took it seriously because of the "Junior" appellation.
Besides, isn't "Luxo" the trade name of a kind of lamp?
Bound to be some issues there...
"Information wants to be paid"
I just logged into Dell and configured a system roughly along the lines the article mentioned "A top of the line Dell Dimension 8200 with a flat panel display".
Not altering any parameters apart from changing to a 15" flat panel display and switching to a DVD-ROM drive, a Dell Dimension 8200 running at 1.9GHz was quoted as being $2280 canadian (I selected Canada as my region on entering the site). That conforms pretty closely with what the article reported for the comparison price of the Dell system ($2200) so there is some reason to believe the $1800 for a DVD burning iMac might be a Canadian price.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
I went out and bought a Corvette the other day. It was, cheap, since the dashboard had no numbers printed on it.
I go from here to work, and drive back. How fast do I drive? I don't know; see above. I know that I can drive on any road I can find, and if my friend has a car, I can drive right behind him. That's good enough for me. I don't worry about it.
Except Steve insists on Quality.
When was the last time you looked at a MS product & were just floored at how well-made it was?
Here's some random thoughts I had about the new machine.
The first thing I was wondering - could you rotate the monitor about its axis and have the display shift as well (like the old Radius monitors you could rotaet to shift views).
Is the CD/DVD slot in the monitor, or base?
Can you remove the monitor? (Sounds like not, to me).
How would a keyboard or mouse attach to this?
Is wireless access built in? Or is it also an Airport hub?
Is it wall mountable?
Will it have video out like powerbooks?
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
The link http://www.timecanada.com/story.adp?storyid=1 is no longer working.
check out the screen shots at dodyg.manilasites.com
I figured out why Steve bumped up the day that he was to give the keynote! Because the night before was the day that Time was going to be releasing this MAG!!! Apple really thought this one through! MAAAAAD PUBLICITY! Not only for MacWorld, but for Apple too this time! Beautifully planned!
P4 1.7 Ghz
128MB RAM
40 GB Hard Disk
Floppy Drive
3+3 year parts/labor warranty
Windows XP Home edition
15" Flat Panel
GeForce 2 MX
CD-RW w/ DVD
Harmon Kardon speakers
10/100 nic
No matter what Apple says, you still pay the Apple tax/tithe/royalty. Although it's only down to about $200(US.) They're making progress I guess.
It's not about software, it's just that those kinds of designs only fit into 5% of the country's living rooms. Seriously, Apple's very limited product design range (one big G4 clunker, an oddball looking iMac, and two laptops with one choice of pointing device) really limits the adoption of their systems. Intel system, in contrast, come in hundreds of different shapes and sizes, from stylish to practical to industrial. Add to that that $1200 is rather high for an entry-level system, and it's not difficult to see why Apple has only a niche market and won't grow beyond it.
Answers I can deduce:
Doubtful.
Base.
Only for maintenance.
USB, port in the back of the hemisphere.
Option card.
Very doubtful.
With a little marketshare, Apple would be the classic example of a monopoly (considerably more than Microsoft is.) Apple controls everything, from the fabrication of the hardware, to the retail outlets (with enough balls to operate their own, and require licensing for everyone else.)
MacCentral restores via a reference in this article.
- Tjp
I am in wallow with my inner money grubbing capitalistic pig. ... Oink!
Enjoy...
http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/mish/time/
The MacMoonies will be wetting themselves, though. They tend to fall hard for packaging and baubles; Steve always manages to run The Big Con. And colors - don't forget all the pretty colors.
I'm sure they're just perfect for "producing" that latest mix tape, or a digital video of all your tattoos that nobody wants to watch. It will also look perfect plopped on every desktop on Castro St.
Will it get Apple beyond 2% market share? Nope.
(thanks to macintouch) A Paris-based Mac reseller's web site has specs for new PowerMac G4 systems:p ?a rticle=NEWSCLG_00009
http://www.clginformatique.com/pages/newsdet.ph
M9541LL/A
1.2GHz
256 MB DDR RAM
60GB HD
nVidia MX2 32mb
CDRW
Ethernet
M9571LL/A
1.4GHz
512 MB DDR RAM
80 GB HD
nVidia MX2 32mb
DVD-CDRW
Ethernet
Built-In Airport
M9591LL/A
1.4GHz Dual-Processor
1GB DDR RAM
120 GB HD
nVidia MX2 64mb
DVD-CDRW SuperDrive
Ethernet
Built-in Airport
Wow they almost doubled every spec.
The time article has been backed up..
h ot o_140102.jpg still works.
http://www.forked.net/www.timecanada.com/
But for sake of proof -
http://www.timecanada.com/weekly/070102/gr/TopP
guns kill people like spoons make Rosie O'Donnell fat.
That Mac mouse is cool. Its translucent, optical tracking and doesn't apear to have any buttons... I'd like to be able to keep it instead of my intellimouse explorer which is a nice mouse... But it feels like a waste having that nice original optical mac mouse sitting idle..
Since yimg.com looks for referer information from yahoo.com you have to go to www.yahoo.com and then type the above URL into your browser. It should load then. :-)
If Shakira's ass ran OS X I'd buy one.
Here it is.
- Dan I.
Only when you abuse your monopoly power to illegally screw your competitors is when there is actually something to complain about. Who ever knew that some skulls can be *that* thick?
Don't get me wrong!
Other MacWorld goodness? What the hell is that? Overpriced and overheating crap, like the cube? We now have the sphere, soon to be replaced by the pyramid and then the torus. Will these clowns ever make a computer that doesn't overheat? One that uses our existing hardware and one that is decently priced? Apple, the elitist core of impudent snobs. What a waste of bandwidth. Powered by Mac? Yeah, right. I use, or more correctly, attempt to use Apple Order Online, to
get my customer's Apple products repaired, what a fucking joke! THE MOST USELESS manufacturer website on the planet...powered by Mac. Shit!
Does Steve Jobs really BLOW GOATS?
People still seem to complain about it. It's amazing really. It won't let you take the machine apart and add your personal favorite CDRW and super golly whiz-o video card? Gee that sucks. Well I'll never buy a PC that doesn't have a System/390 OSA either.
Would it be ironic if in the end Apple really gets it right, people buy them like bottled water and the crowd here takes their ball and goes home?
So the old b-grade(weren't they all) sci-fi movies were right. Computers in the year 2000 and beyond did get those odd roundish/egglike shapes that have haunted me in many nightmares caused by watching a sci-fi movie much to scary for a young mind. :)
Dammit. Even the cars these days that looks like a firecracker exploded inside the plastic model just before it was shown to the suits which liked it, not knowing it was a accident.
The display is too small - it's an iBook display.
Uh, the iBook display is a solid 12.1 inches. This thing is 15. I won't go into the rest of your post, since you're just wrong right here anyway.
MOD THIS PARENT UP - this is the only link to the story that actually worked for me, all the others have been killed by Time, proof of a massive stuff up if ever there was one.
Microsoft - Where would you like to go today, Maybe Jail?
You said you were quitting this crap, but here you are again as an AC. Just piss off, like you said you would.
Microsoft - Where would you like to go today, Maybe Jail?
Pictures and Article link (print ver still up at timecanada)
MacOS X is now becoming a mature operating system.
First you had the press (including The Reg.) fawning over it saying how wonderful it was.
Then you had the complaints about speed.
Then the declaration that it was ready for "prime time" with the 10.1 release.
Now it is "trendy" for the journo's to bash it.
I've been using Mac's since 1989 and Mac OS X since it was released last March. It was a pain at first, and somethings work differently (something that most of the complainers can't cope with - "It's a Mac, it should work like a Mac"), but since 10.1 and DVD playback I've only boot back into OS 9 to run DVD Studio Pro (one of Apple's program's that doesn't run in Classic mode).
Here is a link I found (courtesy of NeoWin) of a picture of the new iMac. http://www.neowin.net/staff/users/aco/TopPhoto_140 102.jpg
---- Don't worry about signing me up... I'm already on all the spam lists.
The TimeCanada.com front page is back to the 12/7/01 issue, so TimeCanada finally got slapped by Apple (presumably) and reverted to the 'old' news.
The article is mirrored here
What is so difficult to understand about the Windows Start button? Start means begin a task, such as start Word or start Solitaire or even start the shutdown procedure. This isn't a difficult concept.
Price: 256MB/24X CD-ROM M8545LL/A 899EUR, 256MB/DVD-ROM M3731LL/A or CD-RW M3732LL/A 1459EUR, 512MB/DVD-ROM and CD-RW M3733LL/A 1659EUR. These are apprently French prices, and I don't know whether they include VAT. Dollar prices should be of the same magnitude.
Maybe Time Canada's picture was of the legendary AirMac? It looks like a damn lamp with an LCD screen attached. It's clearly intended to take the place of the Cube as the l33t d3sign3r Mac.
--
"Open source is good." - Steve Jobs
"Open source is evil." - Microsoft
Scan of new iMac. So I guess this is real.
I have to say, I like the design. It's a very consumer-looking device, and I don't think I've seen another computer that looked like this. I'm sure Apple will keep the current tower-look for their professional machines, but this is a very innovative machine for consumer users.
What's interesting is back in 1997, when Apple introduced the first iMac, a bunch of companies jumped ahead to rip it off: eMachines (are they still around?) and Future Power are two I remember. When Apple sued them, the only defense they came up with was that their designs weren't rip-offs; there was just only so many ways to build a one-piece computer. Of course, the judges disagreed, and the rip-offs were pulled.
Now, Apple releases their successor to the original iMac, and it looks completely different. Of course using an LCD instead of a CRT changes the engineering restraints a bit, but most other computer companies would have made something reminiscent of the previous model. This just goes to show that there are many different ways to build a computer. I think for the computer industry to get out of its rut, it has to collectively forget that incrementally increasing hardware specifications is not the way to "innovate", but this is.
Insert simplistic political, ideological, or personal proselytization here.
Does anyone else know of ANY computer company other than Apple that would have a new design featured on the cover of Time? As far as I can tell there are none.
"Chances of RHIC-induced Armageddon are exceedingly rare, but... you never know." - MIT Physicist Bob Jaffe
because the image is on mac.com?
http://homepage.mac.com/gfoyle/newestiMac.jpg
It's not an optical illusion, it just looks like one!
Did it occur to anybody here that maybe there will be a lot more to this morning's keynote? Since this article also appeared in print already, maybe it's not a leak - and Steve just has a little more up his sleeve.
Honestly, I'm sticking with G5. In 1999 when the G4 was introduced, Apple had deliberately misled the rumour sites to believe that the G4 was nowhere near production. Now, with the iMac bumped to a G4, it would really make sense that as of today the Power Mac as we know it will be G5. Perhaps that's what all they hype is about, and now this is a little wishful thinking: maybe the G5 is so stinkin' fast it's not funny.
Incorrect - motorola sells a lot of these to the embeded market for various uses. The apple versions usually have more cache and run at a higher speed, but motorola is making plenty of money on them.
man is machine
why post a stupid vacant comment like that? It only shows how little you know, you sad ass
Is that SuperDisk? I went to Best Buy to purchase a drive the other day, and they don't sell them anymore. And they had so much potential! I don't like Apple computers, but I have to admit that if they revive the LS120 it might change my opinion of the company.
Remember "Bring 'em on"? *sigh
If you're gonna make somthing this singular and monolithic, then it needs either a touchscreen or a built-in (and default selected) wireless keyboard and mouse.
Cue The Sun...
Yes Apple charges way too much for their RAM, but you CAN buy memory for other vendors with reasonable prices.
The forked.net mirror seems slow, so here's another mirror:
http://www.jeffwilhelm.com/imac/
and also the old:
http://www.jeffwilhelm.com/iwalk/
Enjoy.
This is either a great leap forward towards Star Trek technology, or someone in Apple's design department needs to be spanked.
FYI, the cover of Time Canada magazine (it's made of paper, not bytes) reads "Flat-out cool" and contains a large feature inside. Ok, this message is just to brag that I work where they print Time Canada ;)
Patience is a virtue, but I don't have the time - TH
Apple is really going to unveil an iMac line of
sex toys bundled with Virtual Valerie
-J
http://www.insanely-great.com/news/01/1334.html
m.kelley
life is like a freeway, if you don't look you could miss it.
For the record, Apple's 'Superdrive' is their CD-RW / DVD-RW combo drive. Not to be confused with their previous 'Superdrive' which was just a floppy drive that could do single-, double-, and hi-density versions of Mac- and DOS- formatted 3.5" diskettes.
The imation 'SuperDisk' format is a hi-capacity disk (120 megs), for which the drive is backward-compatible with standard floppies.
I guess they had to do something with those spare "Cube" parts. :)
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im canadian. my feelings have been hurt. we shall now proceed to invade on mooseback, wearing our mounties uniforms and hurling mounds of canadian bacon at you... grrr...
www.forked.net has been /.'ed, but I managed to mirror the first 4 pages of the article.
They are available at: kainga.quasarnet.org/~trisk/icrap/
I wonder how long it will take someone to put
wheels on it so it can follow you around like a puppy.
It never ceases to amaze me that slashdotters don't get the following simple fact: THE iMAC ISN'T INTENDED FOR YOU.
It's for your dad, grandma, or girlfriend who won't need anything but the stock video card, stock hard drive, and stock USB/Firewire/Network card. It's not a geek's computer: It's a "regular guy" machine. If you want to shove $1000 worth of extras into a mac when you buy it, get a G4 tower and quit your bitchin'.
This is like complaining that the Geo Metro doesn't do 140 mph. It wasn't intended to, it's basic transportation.
Side note: This iMac corrects what was, in my opinion, the biggest flaw with the old one: The tiny little screen.
Who did what now?
If you go to http://www.apple.com/home and look at the alt tags, they reveal that the iMac is a 800 MHz G4, with 15" flat-panel, SuperDrive, etc... So, this must mean that their towers, which are currently either dual 800 or single 867 at the high end must be getting a big bumb, too...
as seen here http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-200-8392837.html? tag=tp_pr. It also looks like they lifted data from the timecanada.com page.
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http://www.macgeneration.com/mgnews/depeche.php?aI dDepeche=4017
click the french numbers, nice large pictures of it there..
Have they used that logo before? It looks like NextStep logo stamped over the Apple...
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I actually like the color scheme, it matches the cheap $60 Computer desks I get at Homedepot to put all these machines on. But I did notice the other day how close the overall color is to my winix boxes, didn't Apple spend many years trying to fight being 'just another grey box'?
c|net has an article about the new iMac, basing most of its report off of the Time article (which was available at newsstands and airports in New York last night, btw)
What?
Here is another mirror of the article that got slashdotted: http://www.jeffwilhelm.com/imac/
I have to say, this thing looks a lot prettier when you have good photos of it. It's definitely growing on me...
The_Messenger wrote:
;) A Bandai Rainbow Mothra is perched on top, with pictures of Mothra and Godzilla on the wall and my entire kaiju eiga (Japanese monster movies) collection next to my iMac desk.
> All the same, have you ever seen Godzilla 2000? There are a lot of
> Macs in that movie
That's because Toho *loves* their Macs, and Godzilla and Mothra are Apple's biggest fans. You might also enjoy the following all Apple kaiju roundup:
"Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla 2": MechaGodzilla is designed by GForce using a huge amount of Macs.
"Godzilla vs. Space Godzilla": Miki, a telepath usually associated with Godzilla, is given a mission by Mothra's Cosmos to protect Godzilla from the humans so that Godzilla can save the Earth (and his son) from SpaceGodzilla. Miki views the coming of SpaceGodzilla on a Mac.
"Godzilla vs. Destroyer": The grandson of Dr. Yemane (from the first Godzilla movie in 1954) proudly displays a poster with a big Apple logo in his dorm room.
"Rebirth of Mothra": No Macs here, Apple is in deep trouble (December 14, 1996). What's a Mac-loving, heroic, wonder-working deity to do, when all she has left is a charred apple sapling (which appears several times in the movie, watch for it) in a bleak, scorched landscape? Simple. Resurrect it (and the surrounding 8,000 acres of ex-forest). The little sapling puts out leaves, and before you know it, is a whopping big tree on a grassy hill with flowers and an even bigger moth landing in the valley below. Days later, Apple makes a surprise announcement: Steve Jobs is coming back. Taiki's quote is telling: "Nobody is gonna die, mister. Mothra's gonna come and save us!"
"Rebirth of Mothra 2" (12/13/1997): The Mac is back, with Mothra's little avatar Fairy perched on top! Mothra herself shows the future: transforming into Aqua Mothra and shooting little light blue X's at her foe.
Godzilla, Mothra, King Ghidora, and Baragon are currently starring in a movie in Japan (see www.godzilla.co.jp for more details). I don't know if Macs are in it, but the director was sure bragging about all he could do with his Mac this time around. (If you ever want to see Godzilla and Mothra in the US theatres again, write Tristar!)
> How do I know all of this? Well, remembering all the iMacs involved,
> I watched in yesterday in celebration of the probable new iMacs. And I
> don't even have one. So yes, I'm sad...
No you are not. I did the same thing last night, watching "Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla 2". BTW, I'm posting this on a Snow iMac (one of the original snow ones) named "Fairy".
OS X: the Apple of Mothra's Aqua eye.
I wonder if you can remove the flat panel monitor and connect it to the ipod, for a portable tablet... now that would be cool!
I'm not an USB user (yet). If you get multiple USB mice, what happens if you plug 'em all in?
Stop the brainwash
I've been trying the link to the keynote stream at apple's site for the last 15 minutes with the same error 10060 every time. Come on Apple! Can't you show your keynote to everyone as you promised?
I hear that Apple was being sued by Pixar over the new iMac design.
Apparently, it looks too much like Pixar's corporate logo.
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So useful!
Now if the monitor stalk telescoped, that'd be cool. The base would have to be weighted or attached to something, but I could get into having the base at one end of my desk, and then moving the monitor into my field of vision whenever I needed to access the computer. If I needed to have room on my desk to shuffle papers then I'd just push the monitor back towards the edge of the desk (or push it up, out of the way).
Apple's New iMac
at http://www.spymac.com/ :D
With every other machine out there, including notebooks and flat-panels, you still have to put the monitor *in* your prime work area. With this sunflow design, the LCD hovers above your desk, while you can still take notes / doodle/ read on the your actual desk surface. It may look funny, but it's functionally brilliant.
As a way to assault the corporate desktop it is truly creative. Imagine your typical cube farm. Tight quarters, no one has enough room, and most of the available desk space is consumed by monitors. Now, one stylin' freakin' mac dude brings in his sunflower iMac LCD from home. POW. Not only does he now have more desk space than anyone else, he has more useable desk space than the *boss*. Immediate Mac envy in what was moments before a WinTel monoculture.
Will it work? I don't know. But it's a helluva creative idea.
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Pretty hard to find. www.time.com.
If Slashdot is where the spelling-challenged go when they die, I'm in heaven.
time.com has the WHOLE story with even a gallery of the new iMac!x .h tml
http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101020114/inde
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i wonder how easy it would be for a user to swap out the monitor with a 17'' version of the flat screen...
or apple for that matter, to offer as a future edition - the new iMac SE...
shouldn't be too tough.. the swing arm looks like it could handle it.
oh well.. just a thought. now back to the webcast.
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Or does the Time article read like Apple actually wrote it? It's more of a paid advertisement than an actual news article, if you ask me.
I'll still never buy anything made by Apple. Never.
Clearly their new core is hard core: the iBoob is clearly the iBook's sister, bringing new meaning to Apple's past "Rev. A, B, C and D" iMac versioning.
M.
... then the Canadians have already won.
The 'regular' Time magazine is also covering the story : http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101020114/index.h tml
Guess Jobs didn't mind after all.
I'm a 2000 man.
I remember a few years ago when they announced the IMAC, I listened the keynote on streaming audio. I was amazed.. Today I watched the keynote on QuickTime. The new IMAC is very cool. It comes with a 15-inch flat screen display suspended on the base of the computer. This screen can swivel 180 degrees, raise up and down, and tilt forward and backwards. The base itself is only just over 10 inches in diameter! They come with a CD-RW up to Apple's super drive (CD-RW, DVD-R). Starting at $1299.
Apple also announced a really sweet image editing program that automatically imports, edits and prints images from a digital camera. IPhoto can also publish to a website (provided on apple's servers), order Kodak prints online, and even publish a hard bound book of photos. All in one application. This application and the new iMac completes apples "digital hub"
There is no
Look at apple.com. Its not a mistake, its not a leak, they are already showing off the new iMac there.
Doesn't anyone do any background checks before a story is put up?
Also, here are the official specs on the new iMacs from Apple's page:
The two bottom models have a 700 MHz G4, with the top one having an 800 MHz chip. All feature 256K processor speed L2 cache, but all have a 100 MHz bus, slightly slower than the towers. Bottom model has 128 MB RAM, all others 256; lower two models have 40 GB drives, top model has 60; bottom model has CD-RW, top two have DVD-R/CD-RWs, and finally the top two come with a set of Apple Pro Speakers.
All models have: GeForce 2MX/32MB DDR, 2 FireWire ports, 3 USB 1.1 ports on the machine and two on the keyboard, Mini-VGA output port, 56K modem, 10/100 ethernet, and a typical software bundle with all the iApps, Quicken 2002, Otto Matic, World Book Encyclopedia, AppleWorks, and a bunch of free browsers and readers preinstalled.
The screen is a 15" viewable TFT at 1024x768 at millions of colors.
Apple will continue to sell CRT iMacs starting at $799; the new models cost $1299, $1499, and $1799, respectively.
"Reality is just a convenient measure of complexity" -Alvy Ray Smith
Linked from CNN's front page:
h tml
http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101020114/cover.
Don't just kneejerk blame tha canadians, you yank bastards!
Apple introduces new iMac today. "Goodbye to old iMac." New iMac has 15" flat panel display (1024x768 resolution). "Today is official death of CRT." All new iMacs have G4 processor running at 700MHz or 800MHz. iMac has SuperDrive option. DVD-R media now only costs $5/disc. Includes nVidia GeForce2Mx with 32MB of memory on all iMac models. Apple Pro Speakers bundled on 2 of 3 Macs. Apple presents new iMac: "lamp-style" iMac with flat panel connected to rounded base. Screen is adjustable in any direction and angle can be adjusted. Connectors in back with disk in front. No power brick (integrated into base). As high as CD jewel case (10.5" diamater). Access to computer via 4-screws on the bottom--can hold up to 1GB of memory as well as AirPort card. Three models:
700MHz G4/128MB/40GB/CD-RW for $1299.
Second model with 256MB ofRAM and Combo (DVD/CD-RW) for $1499 (700MHz G4/256MB/40GB).
Third model has 800MHz G4/256MB/60GB/SuperDrive (DVD-R/CD-RW) for $1799.
$1799 model to ship by end of January. $1499 by February, and $1299 by March. Apple is taking orders now. Apple has taken its first order from Genentech for 1000 iMacs (Chairman/CEO Art Levinson sits on Apple's Board of Directors). New marketing videos for iMac and iPhoto shown at keynote.
So as you can see they will all have G4 chips and the prices will not be in pounds! :)
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Come on--you just moderate things down because you don't like it. If you disagree, provide some arguments. Like, where is Apple's 3 pound laptop? Where is Apple's stereo component-sized computer? Where is Apple's sleek black machine? Where is Apple's wooden box? Where is Apple's 8 processor machine? Apple does have a very limited product range and that limits their appeal, no matter how well Apple's techno-plexiglass geek chic may fit into your decor.
pics and plenty of info.
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts."
Are you stupid? DVD drives take **HOURS** to burn, that is why it matters. Your computer could be burning all day.
Now, what kind of moron modded you up?
"For Harry Homeowner, it's a weird-lookin' contraption that costs twice as much as the equivalent PC. "
Don't you read the freakin' articles before posting? They say right in it "You can buy a PC with a flat-panel display and a built-in DVD burner for around $1,800, the same as the equivalent iMac." as well as "...A DVD burner is squeezed into the high-end $1,800 model. While it's hard to come up with a perfect Apple-to-PC comparison, a top-of-the-line Dell Dimension 8200, with a flat-panel monitor and DVD burner (plus a faster Pentium 4 processor and much larger hard drive), costs $2,200..."
How does this cost twice as much? Like you said, you "could be wrong"...
Cygnus, is it true that you can suck your own dick?
So we wanted to release the news early, so take off eh, you hosers.
People, people! Everyone snickering that 'heads will roll' or the pink slips are coming for someone at Time might as well realise the laugh's on you. This is not like the MWNY2001 ATI leak, since the freakin' magazine was in some 24hr newsstands here in Canada as of late Sunday night. Everyone (at Time and Apple) knew that was going to be the case, and Apple obviosuly decided to let it slip to a limited number of slobbering news junkies 12 hours before the keynote rather than have the hype diffused and postponed to next week's Time cover.
The fact that it was 'leaked' and they're still talking about it all over web is testament to the fact that it didn't really damage publicity any, and may have even added to it.
1. If you look on Apple's page now, they've got a link to the Time article.
2. Apple moved the keynote speech at the last minute.
3. It wasn't *just* the website, Time magazine was on newsstands bright and early this morning.
Taken together, I'm theorizing that Apple agreed to have Time put together their little fluff piece and let them be first out the gate. Unfortunately, it looks like someone realized at the last minute that Time magazine was set to hit stands a day ahead of the announcement...but it was too late to pull the issues from the presses. So Apple hastily moves the keynote and some person at Time Canada made a little bit of an additional booboo, based on the article being the lead on that day's printed issue. Just a thought.
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Apple is focusing - on *popular* applications that doesn't try to do everything that a PC does. They see a niche to remove the computer from the desktop (which explains the design of this unit vs. old iMacs). It was meant to go anywhere in the home. Combined with the Wireless Airports and such... literally, *this* iMac can go anywhere. I liken this product as much with Information Appliances and Set Top Boxes than with typical workstations / computers.
The mainstream uses of an OS is geared for semi-high-end applications - Photoshop, 3d, Games, Development, etc. With Games moving to XBoxes, Playstations and the TV, everything else that a computer does, Web, Email, MP3's is somewhat platform independent. Heavy photoshop, video, and 3D people won't use the iMac - they use high-end workstations... developers too. Apple continues to develop for this market too.
It does, however, have one major barrier. Price. Information appliances all try to hit a $300 price point (if not lower). Even PC's can hit this price point as well as gaming stations. Like I said though, I think there's a lot of potential here.
Many people here seem to be having the same reaction to this iMac as mine to the first one: What were they thinking?!? The iMac is, and never has been the machine for me, nor do I suspect that the majority of roll-your-own open source users here on /. would find something so non-customizable appealing either.
I don't think I'll get this new iMac, I need a bit more out of my computer. But I'm obviously not one of the 6,000,000+ people that bought one of the original iMacs either, so I'm not going to judge this new one on the basis of if whether I would buy it or not. Would I recommend it to my family or friends? You bet, it seems practical and cool. At least more so than the first time I ever saw an iMac.
or at least an attempt at humor. You might be interested to know that Pixar is signed up to make some commercials for the new iMac... can you say "Pixar logo tie-in + new iMac" during the Superbowl ? ;)
"Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech."--Benjamin Franklin
I don't mean to sound lik teh token Apple advocate, but I kind of like the little machine.
;)
The original iMacs looked very cool, but they had a loud style to them... and loud styles don't last forever. If they did my pants would still be pegged and sporting a hyper color t-shirt. The old iMac's style was soooooo 1998.
But seriously now. Go back in time 5 years ago and walk into an IKEA or something. The furniture really fit what what the iMac was going for. Everything was plastic, translucent, bright colored, and oddly shaped. Now furniture seems to be sharp, simple, solid, and not brightly colored. It's what's in style now... and Apple's new product designs seem to fit into this style well.
As much as you may have liked the style of the old iMac, I know it is something we are all going to have a good laugh at 30 years down the line. That's how style works.
But enough about "how stuff looks." As for what you said about the new iMacs in schools and whatnot....
When I first saw that thing, the first thing that came to my mind was "this would be great for consoles." People WILL make console stands for these this. Trust me. There were a million of the damn things for the first iMac. Perhaps they could fit in a glass case with the monitor fitted flush on the top.
As for schools. Well, the new iMac comes with a lock slot in the back... just like every other damn computer in the world. No one is going to jack the thing unless they was to start hacking away at metal cables tied to desks.
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your post http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=25790&cid=2796 669
t s? page=9#9
"Oh goody, here we go again. Just another overpriced Mac, gay-designer-packaged and soon to be available in Tangerine."
was lifted word for word from:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/602928/pos
Is this indicative of slashdot?
...sometimes it can be a distraction. When I drive a car I don't think about the valves and pistons. When I write something down I don't think about the ball in the pen. When I play piano I don't think about the counterweights on the hammers.
When I word-process I don't think about my boot sequence, and when I crop pics I don't think about my BIOS firmware revision. I thoroughly understand computer hardware, but if it can accomplish the task I want to accomplish, I feel no need to tweak it.
:)