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First off, it is harder to immigrate to other countries than it is to immigrate to the United States, so Americans will not be going overseas to work.

Really? Not at all. Transitions Abroad has stories from people who did that. Verge magazine does too. Googling work abroad in China returns more than 3 million results. Even if only one-in-one thousand is about working in China that's still 3000 results.

I have been looking into it, because I'd like to do it myself. In a few years I want to go to Brazil as part of a study abroad program, then maybe go to China.

Ni hao, ni hao ma?

Falcon

I'm more concerned with the world class inferiority/racial superiority complex that the chinese have going as a culture.

One, that's found throughout the world. Secondly China isn't one culture and just one ethnic group. There are more than 50 ethnic groups in Mainland China. And the Kuomentang or KMT invaded the islands of Taiwan, of which the largest is Formosa. The inhabitants of Formosa had more than 20 different languages. Those inhabitants call 28 February 1947 Taiwan's Holocaust.

Now I'm not sure about the written Formosan languages but the Mainland Chinese languages share the same written ideograms, spoken languages are what's different. I don't know much now, too many years have gone by since I last spoke Mandarin, but I have a niece who's goes to a Chinese immersion school for kindergarten.

Best thing that could happen to them is a lot of immigrants and a lot of interracial marriages.

The opposite is happening now, a lot of Chinese are emigrating to other countries. Now if a Westerner, Americans, Canadians, and Europeans, want to live like kings they can move to either China or India and get paid very well if they have certain skills. The pay isn't as well as in the west but the cost of living isn't as high either.

For those interested in traveling overseas to find work, check out Transitions Abroad.

Falcon

Advertisers wouldn't pay for ads if they didn't work, at least not for long.

That's why newspapers are going under. Because advertisers are deciding that online advertising is more effective than print advertising. Cheaper too.

More effective, ie they work at least better than other forms of ads. They're also cheaper because websites are cheaper. In the print industry, newspapers and magazines revenue from subscriptions barely paid distribution expenses before, profit was made in advertising. However subscriptions have been falling and adverting rates are determined in part my the subscription base.

Personally I'd pay a little more to subscribe to publications I like. And a little more for web access as well without ads. One of my favorite print magazines was "Byte magazine". It did have an online edition but when I just went to it I was redirected to "Dr Dobb's Journal". Another one I loved went out of print but still has a web presence, Transitions Abroad. I had renewed my subscription 2 months before the print edition was stopped but they had arranged with a Canadian magazine like it to take over delivery of the print edition, "Verge Magazine".

Falcon

A friend of mine went on a trip to Ecador recently. The idea was to make water collection tanks for the natives out in the jungle. He's an engineering graduate student, everyone else was in sociology, and they were hippies to the man. Tons of pot. Dirty. White people with dreadlocks. You name a stereotype, they had it.

Whoever set up the program did a bad job, if your friend wants to try again have him checkout Transitions Abroad . It has the resources to find good programs.

Try to find a manufacturer making a profit anywhere outside of China ... they only make a profit there by expoiting their workers

The Chinese workers aren't making as much as First World workers make, but they aren't being exploited. Sure the pay isn't as good but then again the cost of living is a lot lower too. Chinese who are employed in one of these factories make more than those who can't get a job at one, and if they can't get one it's because they aren't looking or trying hard enough to get work. Or they live in the wrong place. There is a real estate boom in China because workers there can afford to buy homes. And more and more are buying and driving cars. Heck, an American can move to China and live like a king by teaching ESL, English as a Second Language. This is because many, many Chinese want to learn English.

or despoiling the environment.

Pollution and despoiling the environment has been a problem however there is an active Chinese environmental movement in China and the Chinese authorities are becoming aware of just how important it is to cut down and stop pollution:

New rules to curb "rampant" violations of pollution laws
HEFEI, July 12 (Xinhua) -- China's environment chief on Thursday unveiled a set of tough new rules to tackle worsening lake pollution while lambasting the country's "bumpkin policies" that encouraged local officials to turn a blind eye to environmental hazards.

The regulations follow findings showing "rampant" violation of environment rules by almost nine in ten of the country's industrial parks and two fifths of companies.

Zhou Shengxian, director of the State Environmental Protection Administration (SEPA), said the new rules covering China's three major lake areas -- the eastern Taihu Lake, Chaohu Lake and the southwestern Dianchi Lake -- included:

-- A ban on all projects involving discharges containing ammonia and phosphorus, and the turning down of existing applications to establish such projects.

-- A ban on the production, use and sales of detergents containing phosphorous around the lake drainage areas.

-- The removal of all fish farms from the three lake areas by the end of 2008.

-- A ban on fishponds, vegetable and flower farms that may involve the use of fertilizers within one kilometer of the lakeside.

Zhou outlined the measures at a special meeting on lake pollution in Hefei, capital of east China's Anhui Province.

In the last two months, blue-green algae outbreaks have been reported in the three lake areas, endangering domestic water supplies. On July 4, water supplies to 200,000 people in Shuyang County, Jiangsu Province, were halted for more than 40 hours after ammonia and nitrogen were found in a local river.

"Environmental problems, if improperly handled, can trigger major social crises, and improving water quality has become our most urgent task," Zhou told environment officials.

He said illegal activities that harmed the environment were "rampant".

SEPA investigations showed 87.3 percent of the 126 industrial parks in 11 provinces had violated environment rules, allowing environmentally harmful companies into their parks.

They also showed half of the 75 wastewater-processing factories failed to properly process water or were not operating at all. Of 529 companies that SEPA inspected, 44.2 percent were violating environment rules.

"Hazards are everywhere, and environmental accidents are very likely to happen," he said.

Some local officials often relied on companies for GDP contribution and their own promotions, and failed in their responsibil

What's going to happen is that a lot of seniors will outsource themselves. Already plenty of places in Mexico catering to US retirees; you can have a decent standard of living for less than a thousand a month.

One good place to start learning is "Transitions Abroad" .

You would think the reasons for naturalization would be to share the same rights as a citizen. Otherwise, why would anyone endevor to become a citizen? You could remain a visitor forever.

Some people move somewhere without being a citizen of the country they move to. Expats or expatriots do just this. Ernest Hemmingway was one. I subscribe to the magazine Transitions Abroad , which is a good resource for living, studying, and working abroad.

I can go with this. Even though I'm right. Let's be clear though, I have no problem with extending the rights to non citizens by law or constitutional amendment. I'm just pointing out that the constitution in itself doesn't extend any to them by default.

See that's where I disagree, I believe rights are rights for all not just citizens, if they only apply to citizens then they are alienable and not natural whereas right are not alienable and are natural just as Jefferson wrote.

all you need is a couple of european languages and your in.

Ah well, Americans and geographical knowledge don't go together very well. Blame it on your educational system.

Unfortunately it's all too true. Though not all of us "Americans", ie those in the US, most don't see the need to learn another language because everyone else "knows English". NOT!!! "Transitions Abroad magazine has a good article on this:

Why You Need a Foreign Language

Edward Trimnell on the Myth of Global English and the Costs of Americans' Monolingualism

Ah well, Americans and geographical knowledge don't go together very well. Blame it on your educational system.

Unfortunately it's all too true. Though not all of us "Americans", ie those in the US, most don't see the need to learn another language because everyone else "knows English". NOT!!! "Transitions Abroad magazine has a good article on this:

Why You Need a Foreign Language

Edward Trimnell on the Myth of Global English and the Costs of Americans' Monolingualism