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At least she didn't threaten to set the FBI on him.

Note: it seems Dopey has moved on, but his replacement's qualifications don't look too impressive...

Nobody with truly ingenius talent works for the govt, they are either hacks, show offs, or wannabee managers.

http://www.tuttle-ok.gov/index.asp?Type=B_BASIC&SE C={CC5DEFB6-1B2A-4783-A5F8-A92275C95081}

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_A._Taylor

City Manager Jerry A. Taylor

Jerry A. Taylor I am pleased to serve the citizens of the City of Tuttle. I am dedicated to working with the City Government Officials and citizens to ensure Tuttle maintains the qualities that makes it a great place to live. Many challenges lie ahead to meet the rapid growth of this community. The citizens of this city worked many hours to help develop a consolidated plan for growth of the city through the year 2020. This plan ensures that future growth is managed in an orderly manner. Having a plan provides direction and guidelines to ensure city services are available to accomodate the demand resulting from increased growth. I welcome new ideas to enrich the community and provide a better quality of life for all residents. Please call me, or come by my office at City Hall. My door is always open and I answer all calls.

Separated at birth?

Tuttle City Manager Jerry A. Taylor

Dwarf Dopey

all of the city office staff enjoyed the contest and the votes cast for all the decorated pumpkins was very close.

Um, don't you mean Tuttle, Oklahoma??

http://www.tuttle-ok.gov/

What kind of dumbass do you need to be to see this is a positive thing?

Let's get Jerry on the horn asap!

What would Jerry do?

From the Tuttle web site: http://www.tuttle-ok.gov/vertical/Sites/{136BBA6C- 3318-4D9B-8370-02514EF0639E}/uploads/{E02F1A6C-28F D-4324-BA50-3D1ECC42E2FB}.JPG

I feel sorry for your city.

CentOS is an operating system. It is probably installed on the computer that runs your website.

We hope you are happy with it, since we produced it for free and you are able to use it without paying us ... and are even threatening to have us arrested for providing to you free of charge.

Please contact someone who does IT for you and show them the page so that they can configure your apache webserver correctly.

Yeah, nice attitude. Don't explain anything, lots of digs (we hope you are happy with it, I feel sorry for your city), and a unworkable suggestion to contact "someone who does IT for you". It's clear from Jerry's first email that he has no idea about this stuff, otherwise he wouldn't be firing off threats to CentOS. It would have been better to look up the dudes ISP like he did in the final email. But even that has a smarter than thou tone about it

Mr. Taylor,

Even though I have repeatedly asked you to contact your service provider or your network administrator, you have persisted to instead harass me. I have repeatedly offered to help you fix your issue, if you would just provide me with information. You have chosen neither provide me with information or contact your hosting provider ... so I decided to see if I could find some of the information myself.

harass me? WTF. And as I said, it's clear from very early on that Jerry has no clue what he's doing. Complaining he hasn't provided technical information is pointless if he can't understand the questions.

I found the website that you are having problems with by looking at http://www.tuttle-ok.gov/ and I saw an e-mail address of cityoftuttle.org ... so I went to www.cityoftuttle.org and I see the problem.

As I tried to explain to you before, that page is displayed when the webserver in question is not properly configured.

The IP address that is returned from a name lookup of www.cityoftuttle.org is 65.77.67.7. That is the IP address of your server.

Doing more research, I have found that the site in question is hosted by Vidia Communications. If you look at this page

http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=www.vidi acom.com

you will plainly see that Vidia Communications uses CentOS as the operating system for their server.

Well I know how to find out who hosts a website too, but someone like Jerry doesn't. Nice use of plainly though.

So, though I have told you again and again that you need to contact your service provider and tell them of your problem, you obviously would rather threaten me and my group.

Welcome to the world of work. Customers, particularly clueless ones, do tend to threaten you when stuff doesn't work if you reply sarcastically when they send you angry emails.

Now, for the last time ... contact your web server provider, Vidia Communications, and tell them that they have a misconfiguration on the server that they are hosting your website on.

While you are at it, why don't you ask Vidia Communications why it is that they choose CentOS to host your webserver on.

Sigh.

So you see Mr. Taylor, you ARE using my free operating system to run your website, you are doing so by choice, it is a configuration error by the person who choose to install the software and if you would have done what I asked you to your website would have been up by now.

Let me conclude by saying that it is very hard for me NOT to send this e-mail and all the other correspondence between you and I to

http://www.tuttletimes.com/

I will not do so

The guy is a real piece of work.

The city of Tuttle; Where people grow -- friendly!

This guy epitomizes problems we all see every day: Incompetents who don't recognize their own incompetence. Then he compounds it by being an arrogant bastard and an overbearing, threatening weenie to boot.

P.S. take a look at his qualifications. Has anybody ever heard of any of those places?

Seperated at birth?

http://www.tuttle-ok.gov/vertical/Sites/%7B136BBA6 C-3318-4D9B-8370-02514EF0639E%7D/uploads/%7BE02F1A 6C-28FD-4324-BA50-3D1ECC42E2FB%7D.JPG
http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2005/06/09/wbyel low_narrowweb__200x270.jpg

So I've sent nice mail to the City Manager and also to the Mayor, saying how much joy I've got from reading this article.

The Mayors email (mailto:mayor@CityofTuttle.org) can be found on this page: http://www.tuttle-ok.gov/index.asp?Type=B_BASIC&SE C={817F3744-D1CC-4C36-810D-CCED7FF8486A}&DE=

I could not find Manager's mail address on the city page anymore, maybe he removed it? :)

http://cityoftuttle.org/ remains unconfigured. http://tuttle-ok.gov/ apparently was fixed.

Doesn't validate, either.

Result: Failed validation
Address: http://www.tuttle-ok.gov/

Sorry, I am unable to validate this document because on line 410 it contained one or more bytes that I cannot interpret as utf-8 (in other words, the bytes found are not valid values in the specified Character Encoding). Please check both the content of the file and the character encoding indication

Check out the City jobs - "Public Works Technician" at http://www.tuttle-ok.gov/index.asp?Type=B_BASIC&SE C=%7B95EA530C-5936-40BB-8147-B632F5E55FF6%7D, which reads... "Applicant ... Must be able to pass wastewater and water "D" license exams within 120 days of employment. Classic. BTW what's with the mega-long URLs, and this /vertical stuff, on the tuttleweb? What are those strings of hex all about?

I am computer literate! I have 22 years in computer systems engineering and operation.

Oh yeah. Sure. What's that? 22 years of playing Choplifter on a Commodore64? No wait. You wrote "hello world" on a TRS-80 in the early 80's?

Yeah, I love how every script-kiddie who can insert a CD and install/run some canned software is a computer-support-tech and "Gee, wiz, I typed in foo.bas from Basic programming for Idiots and it ran, so I guess I be a computer system engineer."

That email exchange made me want to recomend Johnny Hughes for sainthood: while reading it I could feel myself sliding towards a BOFH attitude...

Oh. btw: anyone else notice that the City of Tuttle Seal looks like a view through a scope?

But wait! Is this the town named after "Tom Tuttle from Tacoma Washington?

Geez!

Here is an email that a friend of mine sent out: redacted to protect identity.

From XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Subject Serving the citizens of Tuttle and making it a great place to live.
Date Mon, March 27, 2006 10:31 am
To "Jerry A. Taylor"
CC "Senator Debbie Stabenow"

Dear Sir.

As you can see, my email to you contains full disclaimer to my identity
and also will show on the radar of my Senator. So I am completely on the
level.

I would like to ask you a few questions, having read the recent events of
Tuttle's website incident, located at
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/24/tuttle_cen tos/, and your homepage
on your city's website located at
http://www.tuttle-ok.gov/index.asp?Type=B_BASIC&SE C=%7BCC5DEFB6-1B2A-4783-A5F8-A92275C95081%7D,
I am disturbed at the conduct of a goverment official that is supposed to
be setting the example for the rest of us. If I had kids, I would like
them to be able to look up to our politicians as they are the leaders of
our country.

I would like to ask you the following:

1. What qualities that make Tuttle great are you promoting, by viciuosly
attacking a software provider with blind accusations with a guilty until
proven innocent stance over a page that looks like the following:
http://centos.hughesjr.com/testing/noindex_new.htm l - where it correctly
states, that the webserver is working correctly and that what is missing
is content?
2. What evidence did you have that your website was hacked besides your
inability to see the page you expected despite your repeated requests to
"REMOVE" offending software which was "NEEDED" by your web pages in order
to be seen by the public?
3. What forensic testing did you complete prior to contacting the maker of
the software?
4. Did you shut down the server that you expected was hacked to prevent
any further "hacking" of your site's infrastructure?
5. Did you isolate your server by unplugging it from the rest of the
network to prevent the public from being affected by your hacked software?
6. Even a novice could see that the page you were shown was a help page,
but what led you believe this was a hacking attempt?
7. Is paranoia and general widespread panic the qualities you are
attempting to promote in Tuttle citizenry? What intel reports do you have
to support your feelings that Tuttle is targetted for this kind of
activity?
8. Given that any software maker has no knowledge of your infrastructure
setup, what questions did you ask of your own team prior to accusing the
software maker of hacking your site and not providing adequate assistance?
9. Have you done a review of your team's management and staff to determine
whether they followed procedure during this crisis, or was all of the
incident managed by you? Do you have a PMP certified staff member to
handle your project management issues and crises?
10. You state in your email trail with CentOS that you have "22 years in
computer systems engineering and operation." If such is the case, why is
it that you did not initiate tha activities required to remove the
offending sofware even from a management point of view? I have 17 years -
maybe not as much as your 22, but even at 5 years of experience managing
sites, when there was something offending, I knew which person on my team
would be able to remove the software or determine root cause. Please
elaborate on how you used your 22 years of experience to determine root
cause in this incident and how in your estimation your shouting match at
the obviously polite people at CentOS showed your citizenry the kind of
examp

Huh. That's strange...

Their page looks like crap.

http://www.tuttle-ok.gov/

--
Evan

I could help but want to award this City Manager the highly coveted, never duplicated, Darwin Award. http://www.darwinawards.com/

Please cast your vote to this wonderful individual.

http://www.tuttle-ok.gov/index.asp?Type=B_BASIC&SE C=%7BCC5DEFB6-1B2A-4783-A5F8-A92275C95081%7D

Or at least let him know how "Wonderful" ;) he really is.

Here is a recent picture of our hero, Jerry, and here is a picture of him during his earlier years.

The guy's website provides further proof for the "low IQ and use of Comic Sans" correlation.

The PHB in question is the city manager. According to him: "My door is always open and I answer all calls."

So... here's his info: City Manager Jerry A. Taylor, and his email address: citymgr@cityoftuttle.org.

Note that I am not "exposing" anything, all of this info comes directly from the publically available cityoftuttle.org website.

PS. I can't believe we fried centos.org but not cityoftuttle.org.

http://www.tuttle-ok.gov/index.asp?Type=B_BASIC&SE C={CC5DEFB6-1B2A-4783-A5F8-A92275C95081} 22 years and he has no clue how DNS or web servers works... MBA, Raytheon consultant. No wonder America is in suvh serious trouble. This bozo should be fired for incompetence!

The comic-sans on his website is hilarious as well.

http://www.tuttle-ok.gov/index.asp?Type=B_BASIC&SE C={CC5DEFB6-1B2A-4783-A5F8-A92275C95081}

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