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The ntfs-3g driver to read and write to NTFS from Linux is built-in into the kernel.

http://www.tuxera.com/communit...
http://ubuntuforums.org/showth...

Yup, that lack of SD slot sure killed the iPhone. And the iPod.

Methinks that the real reason is because Apple wants to stay as far away as possible from storage that requires the usage of fat or ntfs formatted memory cards. A big part of the equation that seems to be overlooked here is how Microsoft manages to extort money from Samsung and other smart phone manufactures. No doubt a big part of the patent extortion is having Android read and write to FAT and NTFS.

  Watch out because the next step in the extortion will most likely be Microsoft claiming that Linux users are doing the same thing with fat fs kernel modules and ntfs3g. I just wonder when it will happen and why Microsoft has not gone after these guys yet...

perhaps the fact that every device manufacturer in the frigging world would wakeup and finally realise that the so called "protected American intellectual property" stance is really the problem. If all of a sudden other file systems were to show up on storage devices then just maybe things might finally start to change for the better. For one it would only take a freely distributable opensource file system access software windows program with chips and devices for chip manufactures to knock fat and ntfs out of the loop. Software updates to smart tvs, bdplayers and other devices that use usb storage could easily make devices with opensource file systems usable.

The only reason why this has not occurred yet is that Microsoft to date has tolerated the wholesale use without license of its file systems. If they turn around and really start sticking it to manufactures there is an alternative and I believe they know it!

Nokia is in a different position and this phone does have an internal micro slot so the article is largely bogus...My cheap ($30) BC Government surplus 2010 Samsung Omnia windows 6.1 piece of crap cell phone is the same it has an microsd beside the battery and no external slot other than the usual proprietary stupid usb/charger/headphone/whatever iPhone like clone samsung connector.

Watch out the shi* is about to hit the fan as me also thinks Samsung is finally starting to get pissed enough to really start playing hard ball with patent trolls like Apple and Microsoft... how about a Samsung/Google joint venture to release something really special with opensource windows drivers that does not use any patented shit from apple or microsoft at all. Hell throw Motorola into the mix and the three companies could gang up and really stomp on both Apple and Microshaft.

There is third party support for ntfs at http://www.tuxera.com/products/tuxera-ntfs-for-mac/ . It isn't as good as the Windows native version.

If you would have bothered to read your own link you would have found a handy little link where you buy a licensed copy for any OS you care to run it on, how horrible! To think, they actually want to be paid for their R&D instead of giving you the right to have their work "free as in beer".

You know, just because you want everything for free doesn't give you the right to force that upon others anymore than I have the right to take GPL code and lock it behind a paywall. MSFT has given the code for .NET (all except Winforms IIRC which wouldn't bloody work anywhere else anyway) they have given it as an ECMA standard AND given a legally binding community promise that makes it so any attempt to weasel out would get them laughed out of any courtroom anywhere.

So lets be honest here: The ONLY way you would take anything made by MSFT is if it were sold to Google. BTW, they using any GPL V3 in Android? No? Know why? Look up "TiVoization" and see what is gonna happen to the droid. I frankly find it hilarious that everyone in the Linux community is worried about the old dog when the new hungry wolf is about to bite you right in the ass. Think RMS wrote GPL V3 because it was Tuesday? he wrote it because he knows GPL V2 is hopelessly broken and thanks to TiVo every corp on the planet knows that too.

So please, keep believing that .NET is some evil plot that is just taking a long long LONG time to come to fruition. It will make it all the more funny when the handset manufacturers take your Linux toys away thanks to TiVo tricking. After all, what good is the code if the device won't let you run it?

agreed I have been using over FAT as it supports files larger than 2GiB. Through FUSE you can get RW capabilities for free http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-download/ . A bit slow in writing though...

Mac OS and Linux both have support for NTFS through NTFS-3G. Mac OS has support for ext2 through fuse-ext2.

You err. I routinely mount my NTFS partitions with read and write permissions under Linux. There are several Linux rescue disks (liveCD's) now which can mount the drive on which your Windows installation resides, scan for viruses, trojans, etc, edit the registry, delete the passwords, write new directories and files - anything you might wish to do. There are also several forensics suites for Linux that manipulate anything on an NTFS drive.

STABLE Version 1.0 (February 21, 2007) - Release Notes

        * Change: document and release version update to stable status.

http://www.tuxera.com/community/release-history/

It's stable, it works, it uses Fuse so you don't have to worry about Kernel support.

Just go get it.

LK

I've used NTFS-3G successfully. http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-download/

But the nfsmount people have this to say: "The ntfs-3g driver is an obsolete fork of ntfsmount. Use ntfsmount from ntfsprogs-2.0.0"

http://www.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfsmount

Who is correct???

Also, we're talking external drives here. It's very easy to corrupt a USB drive just by bumping the connector.

For these reasons, the NAS suggestions above may be the best bet. Network shares are designed to handle all the bothersome considerations of different character sets, case-insensitivity (or not), and flaky connections, and so on.

If you need Linux/Mac/Windows interoperability then we recommend NTFS for both Linux and Mac users. Instead of the old NTFS kernel driver you may want to check our open source NTFS-3G. It has read/write, and tons of options:
http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-advanced/

If you need just high-performance NTFS read/write, this is our offering for Mac users:
http://www.tuxera.com/products/tuxera-ntfs-for-mac/

If you need high-performance for a commercial Linux application or device, you may want to check this:
http://www.tuxera.com/products/tuxera-ntfs-commercial/performance/

Regards,

Mikko Välimäki
CEO, Tuxera Ltd

If you need Linux/Mac/Windows interoperability then we recommend NTFS for both Linux and Mac users. Instead of the old NTFS kernel driver you may want to check our open source NTFS-3G. It has read/write, and tons of options:
http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-advanced/

If you need just high-performance NTFS read/write, this is our offering for Mac users:
http://www.tuxera.com/products/tuxera-ntfs-for-mac/

If you need high-performance for a commercial Linux application or device, you may want to check this:
http://www.tuxera.com/products/tuxera-ntfs-commercial/performance/

Regards,

Mikko Välimäki
CEO, Tuxera Ltd

If you need Linux/Mac/Windows interoperability then we recommend NTFS for both Linux and Mac users. Instead of the old NTFS kernel driver you may want to check our open source NTFS-3G. It has read/write, and tons of options:
http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-advanced/

If you need just high-performance NTFS read/write, this is our offering for Mac users:
http://www.tuxera.com/products/tuxera-ntfs-for-mac/

If you need high-performance for a commercial Linux application or device, you may want to check this:
http://www.tuxera.com/products/tuxera-ntfs-commercial/performance/

Regards,

Mikko Välimäki
CEO, Tuxera Ltd

Honestly, if FAT32 won't do what you need, NTFS is pretty much where you'll need to go. NTFS-3g gives you stable read/write capability on Linux and OS X as a FUSE driver; in fact, many distributions have NTFS-3g in their repositories. There's also native NTFS write support in Snow Leopard if you want to risk turning it on. I personally haven't had any issues with it, but some people have encountered file corruption when using it, so you might want to be wary. It is worth noting, however, that many embedded devices won't read anything other than FAT. If you plan on hooking this drive up to, say, a DVD player to show pictures, NTFS won't work for you.

Like it or not, Microsoft file systems are the lingua franca of file transfer on portable drives these days, merely due to the installed base of Windows computers.