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But you are obviously not interested in facts, otherwise you would have looked, you know, at the actual research and criticized the approach and methods used. Your claim that he uses tiny samples is a direct lie on your side. Your claim that he is cherry-picking is another direct lie. I suspect you have not even looked and made that up to be able to stick with your own broken model of the world. You do not even seem to have read enough of it to find out that Altemeyr is not referring to political parties but to people attracted to certain areas of the spectrum. The science is sound. The problem you have with it is in your mind.

You're defending a bunch of political propaganda as science. It's not. He's welcome to his opinion, as are you, but claiming it's unbiased science is an insult to real scientists.

And yes, Altemeyr also gives his opinions on the subject, but only after cleanly deriving the scientific facts.

Incorrect. He starts with his hyperpartisan opinion and uses cherry-picked surveys and specific people to represent entire groups. His writing is full of hasty generalization and appeals to misleading authority

Here are some examples, directly from his writing:

Republicans in Congress voted massively against the bill, and Democrats took the heat for trying to stop a recession that the Republicans had largely caused by deregulating the banking system.

Oh, my, that is soooo SCIENCY! There are valid arguments for the causes of the crisis, with Democratic and Republican policies as culprits. What Altemeyr does here (as throughout his writing) is to present his opinion as fact. It's not.

The first of what became Tea Party protests occurred on February 10, 2009. It was produced by FreedomWorks, an organization led by influential Republicans such as former House Majority Leader Dick Armey, that specialized in creating “grass roots” protests. On February 9, a FreedomWorks official phoned Mary Rakovich in Ft. Myers, Florida, whom he had trained in organizing demonstrations http://www.verumserum.com/?p=4... . He wanted a protest the next night when Obama was in town holding a town hall on the stimulus bill. About ten people showed up on short notice to decry government waste and “Obamas socialism,” but it was a start. Rakovich was then interviewed on Fox.

Here he presents a cherry-picked event to depict his opinion of what started a very diverse movement. And it's not even accurate. There are many events that lead to various protests and groups that called themselves "tea party". Altemeyr uses this one to support his later fallacious appeal to misleading authority arguments. He ignores factual events like the Ron Paul tea party events, the Young Americans for Liberty tea party protests, and others - but instead selects a later event attended by only 10 people (smaller than the earlier events). This is at LEAST cherry-picking, or you could just all it a lie, because it's intentionally deceitful.

So if you're on board with this guy's OPINION, you can like it and think it's "science". If you're looking for some unbiased and useful social science commentary, look elsewhere. Because his writing is really just partisan propaganda.

GIYF.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/fbi/fbi-informant-infiltrated-occupy-movement-758348
http://www.verumserum.com/?p=33490

I'm sure team democrat still supports them, maybe.

Yes, let's record everything about the Occupy movement so the future can judge it:

Sedition

Sedition is among your list of terrible crimes? How can someone claim to "love America" and yet believe that even the suggestion of revolution or even publicly advocating change in government is somehow criminal and immoral?

Occupy Burlington – Man kills himself with handgun Occupy Salt Lake City – Man found dead with syringe in his tent Occupy Vancouver – Young woman dies of cocaine and heroine overdose Occupy OKC – Young man with history of drug abuse found dead

As for this, I would argue that these people would have killed themselves regardless of the Occupy Movement. It's really reaching to be blaming a movement for someone else's suicide.

Yes, let's record everything about the Occupy movement so the future can judge it:

Arson

Occupy Fort Collins – Member arrested, $10 million in damage
Occupy Portland - Member arrested for throwing Molotov Cocktail
Occupy Seattle – Suspicious fire at Bank of America 2.7 miles from camp
Occupy Portland – Three men arrested with homemade grenades

Assault/Threats

Occupy SF – 12 assaults in 24 hours
Occupy LA – 4 assaults including two with knives
Occupy Philly – Man punches woman in the face
Occupy LA – Two assaults including setting someone on fire
Occupy Berkeley – Police respond to three assault calls per night
Occupy Wall Street – Three men threaten the life of a sexual assault victim
Occupy Lawrence – Punch thrown
Occupy Orlando – Knife fight sends man to hospital
Occupy Portland – Multiple assaults within a 24 hr. period
Occupy Toledo – Man assaults police officer after arrest
Occupy San Diego – Woman assaults cameraman
Occupy Victoria – Man dumps urine on city worker
Occupy Vancouver – Two police officers bitten during near riot
Occupy Oakland – Death threats
Occupy Austin – Man in Joker make-up arrested for brandishing knife
Occupy Oakland – Man sets his dog on reporter
Occupy Oakland – Man pulls a knife in camp
Occupy Wall Street – Photographer assaulted

Drugs/Dealing

Occupy Boston – Two drug busts in a week
Occupy Boston – Another drug arrest
Occupy Boston – Heroin dealers busted were living with 6 year old boy directly behind welcome tent
Occupy Portland – First hand account “Drugs. SellingHeroin. Meth.”
Occupy Portland – Video of open drug use in the camp
Occupy Portland – “I get high“

Fraud

National Lawyer’s Guild member Ari Douglas pretends to be run over by a police scooter

Illness/Death

Occupy Santa Cruz – Ringworm outbreak
Occupy Atlanta – TB outbreak
Occupy Wall Street – Zuccotti lung outbreak
Occupy New Orleans – Man discovered in tent had been dead 2 days
Occupy Portland – Body lice outbreak

Murder

Occupy Oakland – Fatal shooting

Public disturbance

Occupy Dallas – Protesters block bank entrance, 23 arrested
Occupy Vancouver – Mob with bullhorn enters bank
Occupy Wall Street – Protesters block bank entrance, four arrested
Occupier takes a bathroom break in the street
Occupy Vancouver – Occupiers disrupt debate, threaten riot when asked to leave
Occupy Long Beach – Group disrupts city council meeting
Occupy Boston –

"Occupy Wall Street" is a fringe movement spouting tired, old, leftist dogma and hate. The only thing it has in common with the "Arab Spring" is that there are threads of anti-Semitism running through both.

Occupy Wall Street Goes Global

Sunday Reflection: Protestors should try occupying reality for real change

Right now, idealistic young Americans are gathered together to fight injustice and build a better world.
Sure, they're a little dirty, and maybe some of their language is a bit rough, but they've left behind family and friends, as well as the creature comforts the rest of us take for granted, to make a stand for what they believe in.

It's just too bad that today the mainstream media is focusing on the spoiled, incoherent clowns of Occupy Wall Street and ignoring our young fighting men and women.

The mainstream media's cameras can't get enough of these pierced protesters, with their crudely written signs proclaiming their unfocused discontent and general anger at society's selfishness in failing to satisfy their every want and desire.

Of course, those cameras discreetly turn away when the placards demanding socialist revolution and blaming the Jews come out. The protesters' function is to demonstrate inchoate outrage simply by being there. When they start talking, they start alienating the normals.

These are Potemkin protesters, community organized by government worker unions to allow liberal Democrats a way to triangulate to the center next year. Only the rebel media outfits will actually stick a mic in the protesters' dirty faces and let them talk.

What comes out is a confused hash of gripes about their banks, complaints about their student loans, and whining about the quality of their jobs.

Tragically, graduates of Ivy League universities brandishing master's degrees in minority women's studies are not getting jobs that pay enough to service their $150,000 student loans. Who could have seen that coming?

PICKET: Occupy Wall Street protesters post manifesto of 'demands'

Nazis and Communists Throw Their Support Behind Occupy Wall Street Movements (Updated)

Occupy L.A. Speaker: Violence will be Necessary to Achieve Our Goals

Video: Occupy Portland Protesters Sing “F*ck the USA”

THOUSANDS Of Obama-Endorsed “Occupy Chicago” Protesters CHEER the Communists (Video)

Wall Street: Occupied by Anti-Semites?

Political party paying Occupy Wall Street protesters?

More Anti-Semitism at Occupy Los Angeles

Coast Guard member spit on near Occupy Boston tents

‘Occupy’ protesters branch out

Yes, hot-heads are everywhere, this is why the leaders should be very careful with words and discourage this instincts. Instead it seems that Palin caters to the worst impulses and gives these guys the idea that she would applaud violence. I do not find a similar behavior in the democratic party, do you?

I am questioning the leaders' behavior. Inciting the mobs is not ethical. Maybe they are careful with rhetorics and could claim that they never said "she/he should be dead" directly, but this is the message they pass to the followers.

Yeah their presidential candidate applauds violence by saying thing like "If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun". Their House candidate incite the mobs by running a campaign ad with his opponent in a crosshair. And most horrifyingly, they make US maps marked with "targets" for their followers to shoot up.

I would have to concede that it would be difficult for me to find Democrats doing similar stuff... oh wait.

Obama riding a unicorn.