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Re:Ouch
I'm raised protestantian, as Martin Luther defined it.
Certainly there is no trinity.Uh, my understanding is that Lutherans subscribe to the Nicene Creed. So do the Baptists (Southern and otherwise), Methodists, Presbyterians, the Catholics and the Orthodox, and in fact every Christian church I have ever been in*.
The Trinity, and the divinity of Christ (that "true God from true God" part), is built into the Nicene Creed. It is a feature, not a bug. You may not believe in it, but don't go saying all those churches don't know what they are doing when they recite it.
* You will get bonus points here by intelligently bringing up the Filioque.
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Re:In that case,
Simplistically, this psalm expresses grief and revenge by those who had been captured by the Babylonians.
(And "blessed" means "happy", not "God condones this and will bless you")
Looking into it more, though, I learned of a larger historical context (Taken from here):
"It is important to remember that the curses of Psalm 137 are not originally the psalmistâ(TM)s curses. They are the Lordâ(TM)s curses which the psalmist has made his own. The destruction of Edom was the fulfillment of prophecy, particularly the prophecy of Obadiah. In Isaiah 13:16, which was written about 200 years before Babylonâ(TM)s fall, the destruction of Babylon was prophesied in almost the exact terms used in Psalm 137. The destruction of the children who were too young to be transported into slavery was a common practice in ancient warfare. Since this cruelty was apparently practiced by the Babylonians during their campaigns of conquest against Israel, Babylon would receive from its Persian and Median conquerors the same treatment which it had inflicted on Israel (Jeremiah 50:29; 51:56). " -
Wrong.
Orthodox Christain theology holds that the soul leaves the universe after death, and doesn't influence it afterwards. Please don't confuse Christainity with urban mythology.
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Creation in 7 days
If you believe that God created the world in 7 days, then on one of those days He created dinosaurs, and on one of those days He created humans. Therefore, humans and dinosaurs coexisted. (I happen to believe in a literal interpretation of the bible so yes, I share that belief). Also Job 40-41 mentions a "Leviathon" which, if you go back to the original Hebrew (reading a commentary and consulting someone who knows the original language, as all pastors in our synod do) the consensus is a beast **larger** than a modern elephant or hippopotamous.
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Re:Child Porn and the (shudder) Free Market?
consider. No I am not calvinist, lutheran... but we do not look down on usury. The distinction is made as to what the money is used for. No you shouldn't be charging interest on a loan to someone who is just trying to eat
... out of love you help and support them. But for business expenses, luxuries, etc... nothing wrong with loans (Remember the parable of the man with the servants, each had a coin they were to invest... Christ did not condemn this, in fact the unfaithful servant did **not** "at least leave it with the bankers where it could earn a little interest") -
Re:Exactly!
The problem with your statement is a good percentage of those evangelical christian types do not believe Catholics are Christian. Yes, I know it sounds absurd, but I remember having that hammered down on my head during catechism.
For reference, here's one of the many articles about what wels believes about catholics:
http://www.wels.net/cgi-bin/site.pl?1518&cuTopic_t opicID=19&cuItem_itemID=8843
yes, that is the pope they're talking about being the antichrist. there are better articles, that's just the first one i picked out. -
Re:Another giant step backward...
You are misteaken, most Lutherans identify with a literal interpretation of the scripture and an anti-evolutionary stance. You must just know ELCA lutherans, who are known to be liberals.
Wisconsin Synod lutherans: WELS Evolution
Lutheran Church Missouri Synod:Evolution
ELCA however does not make a formal stance on the issue. They are the more liberal branch of the Lutheran church and are almost roman-catholic in their practices.
There are about 20 Lutheran branches but these are the big three. Lutheranism is most popular in the midwest, particularly Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa and South Dakota. Lutheranism is a conservative sect that follows a literal interpretation of the scripture. -philski- -
Re:Obligatory comments here....
Oh, you open minded science types who give no credit at all to those who happen to belief in a structure to the universe you do not share. I don't see how alien life precludes my belief in the divine creation of the universe in the slightest.
That was a TROLL... I know it was a troll, but I'm going to respond anyways....
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Genesis 1:11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
According to several Pastors I have known (From Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod (WELS) churches), these statements alone precludes life on other planets, much less aliens.
Yet another reason why I attend an Evangelical Lutheran Church of America (ELCA) church, and not WELS.
And as a side note, Christ's death here paid for their (alien's) sins too.