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to get the software geek perspective on software patents, if they really want it. Enough feedback has already been given, believe me.

They could search for all slashdot articles with "patent" in the title, and throw it into Wordle http://www.wordle.net/ for starters.

One of the biggest games online uses Java and 3D. http://www.runescape.comwindows/ Mobile will likely be running in Java.

Project looking glass was done in Java http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Looking_Glass

Even if you look at Wordle ( http://www.wordle.net/ ) which isn't 3D but it's a fast loading, fast running slick applet. It shows you in the hands of the right people Java is at least as capable as Flash (more so imo) but it has a bad reputation for anything fun.

Unfortunately Java had such a shitty beginning with applets which weren't perfect and when they were being used it was generally for something god awful and ugly. That has scared a lot of people from developing applets or using applets.

I get the impression as well that developers just assume Java should do everything easier and when it doesn't just wipe your ass for you they claim it's broken and bloated. Sure it has an ass load of libraries but you still need to know how to code and optimise in Java just like any other. It's not Flash by any means.

Flash is a lot easier to get something working for inexperienced people because for a starter there are no threads and while any serious Flash app will likely be done strictly in actionscript, you can get quite far as a newbie pointing and clicking in a gui and writing less code than you would in Java.

Doing something Doom in Flash would still be a major task but for the 900 billion games that are basically "how far can you throw the baby, kitten, whatever" or "punch the guy's balls, woman's face, etc" you can do that more easily in Flash than Java and due to the restrictions it will generally run better because you can't do something like fuck up threads.

Applets are no worse than anything else. The only difference is the price tag on Flash stops more people (at least those with a conscience) from making any old piece of shit and tossing it up on the web. Professionally done applets are excellent and the best solution to web apps so far.

http://www.wordle.net/ is rather popular despite using an applet but that's because it's done right. It loads nearly instantly and it's not some awful collection of graphical effects tutorials thrown together.

JavaFx is used for more than Applets. It's used in mobile phones too. My main reason for ignoring it is it's basically Java but trying to be all trendy and written different.

I'll stick with normal Java until I have a reason to try JFX. It doesn't help that it's a Windows/mobile only thing.

http://wordle.net/gallery/wrdl/246288/slashdot

Did not work in Firefox, but worked in Konqueror

I agree, Applets aren't that bad but it may take awhile to get people to forget all those horrible java applets people used to put on their ugly sites. One of my favourites at the moment is Wordle. http://wordle.net/

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Wordle of TFA.