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For one thing, notable record labels provide promotion on commercial FM radio to reach people without smartphones capable of using Internet radio.

I don't have a smartphone, but I have two computers, each capable of listening to any internet station out there. My 80 year old dad is one of a very few people I know without a computer. I don't know anyone who has a smartphone and no computer.

Not every town has a college radio station that plays all genres.

No, but almost all of those stations stream over the internet. My favorite is WQNA, you can have either an AAC or MP3 stream from them. Jazz, rock, blues, ska, raggae, punk, hardcore, even belly dancing music (Wednesday nights).

Even with the price of HDTV cameras plummeting, I don't see the price of competent writing, directing, acting, sets, and the like plummeting.

Have you seen Star Wreck: In the Pirkinning? funny as hell, far better acting, writing, and directing than any Hollywood B movie, and it cost them a couple thousand bucks for a feature length movie.

Furthermore, a movie needs a soundtrack, and licensing diegetic music for use in movies set after 1922 can exceed and has exceeded (e.g. Clerks) the rest of the cost of the film put together.

All it takes is one talented musician with a synthesizer to produce a sound track; writing music isn't hard. There are thousands upon thousands of such talented people mostly playing in bars. There is no shortage of people with any talent you need.

What you don't need is multi-million dollar actors and directors and musicians. Actors, directors, and musicians are a dime a dozen these days.

There's a show on Tuesday mornings on WQNA, a local college station here, that plays Dr. Demento type music (I can't think of the name of the show). That's a very geeky station; there's one DJ there named "Commander Riker", there's a show called "Pemberton's Basement", and a friend of mine and fellow nerd, Mike King, has a blues show on Sundays at noon.

It is a shame that it is harder to find a place for something different in this world.

College radio has always been my favorite. We have WQNA her in Springfield, "roughly the power of four light bulbs". They play pretty much anything and everything; I once heard Tennessee Ernie Ford followed by the Dead Kennedies followed by Johnny Cash.

In St Louis you have to be in Forest Park (or on the bluff with a very good reciever) to hear Washington University's ten watt station.

WQNA, the local college station, is truly a nerd station. There's a show called "Pemberton's Basement", there's a disk jockey for a heavy metal show who's named "Commander Riker", and a nerd friend of mine, Mike King, has a blues show on Sundays. Mike's paying job is programming and computer consulting.

"WQNA, with roughly the power of four light bulbs!"

your sig made milk come out of my nose.

WQNA, the local college station, is truly a nerd station. There's a show called "Pemberton's Basement", there's a disk jockey for a heavy metal show who's named "Commander Riker", and a nerd friend of mine, Mike King, has a blues show on Sundays. Mike's paying job is programming and computer consulting.

"WQNA, with roughly the power of four light bulbs!"

you could play it 5 times and then only a fan would still listen through all those scratches

Incorrect, young man. I have CDs that I made from 30 year old LPs, and you really have to crank the volume up to hear any noise. Sure, if you throw your 45 around, leave it out of its cover in the dust, etc, you'll ruin it, but only morons treated their records like that.

WQNA, a local station that plays literally everything (I've heard Tennessee Ernie Ford followed by the Dead Kennedies) and streams on the internet. Listen on a Sunday at noon US Central time - a couple of friends of mine have a blues show then, "The Real Deal HiFi Blues", and much of the music they play is from records over a half century old. You will be amazed and educated.

You didn't answer the question. Do you want to be told what to listen to? I know I don't.

where do i find about new european trance i might like?

WQNA, the only station where I ever heard Tennessee Ernie Ford followed by the Dead Kennedies followed by Johnie Cash. Monday night is blues, followed by hardcore metal. Wednsday night they do middle eastern music, including belly dancing music. You can hear bluegrass on Saturday afternoon, old 30s jazz on Sunday morning.

If there's anywhere you can hear european trance it would be wqna. There's an internet feed somewhere on that site.

There's a non-commercial station here in Springfield a friend, Mike King, DJs on Sunday afternoons (12:00-2:00) for with his and Dan's Real Deal Hi Fi Blues (Mike is a fellow nerd, btw). The station is WQNA and they play literally ANYTHING, depending on who's jockying disks. I once heard Tennessee Ernie Ford followed by the Dead Kennedys followed by Johnny Cash on that station!

There's ska, raggae, country, really old country, rock, really old rock, blues, rap, crap, pap, jazz, scat, clasical, folk, bluegrass, metal, hardcore, punk... they even have a show that features belly dancing music.

Googling for their web site I was surprised to find that wikipedia has an entry on them, albeit an incredibly small one. Like almost all radio stations these days they have an internet stream.

It's my favorite station, and despite its puny 200 watt output power was voted Springfield's best music station in last year's Illinois Times poll. If you have eclectic tastes in music you should check it out.

...we'll be forced to listen to more adverts, which in turn will prompt me to discontinue radio as an entertainment medium.

Already did it for me. My car's radio has 10 presets and as soon as I hear an announcer I punch buttons until I hear music, and keep punching if crap music comes on. If I go through all ten there's another button that starts up the CD changer.

At home my radio is locked to WQNA, a "250 watt non-commercial community volunteer/student station" that has no advertising at all an plays everything from old blues (a freind has a blues show on Sunday afternoon) to jazz to punk rock to heavy metal to worldmusic to... well actually there's not a genre I haven't heard on that station. I once heard a Tennessee Ernie Ford song followed by a Dead Kennedys song followed by a Johnny Cash song. But I'm starting to get offtopic so I'll stop (the web page is BAD and I don't mean that in the good sense)

At any rate, the point I'm getting away from is I already don't listen to commercials on the radio.

Part two is STOP VIOLATING COPYRIGHT by downloading the tracks.

I see you're from the UK or somewhere where this is true. However, in the US, downloading is legal; Congress explicitly legalized downloading less than $2k worth of copyrighted material per year with the No Electronic Theift Act which says that it's illegal to download more than that set amount a year. Less than that limit and you're legal. Downloading more than that and you're not breaking copyright law, you're breaking the NET act.

Uploading is what is illegal; they consider that a "broadcast" which IS covered under copyright law. "Illegal downloaders" get sued by the MAFIAA because their downloads automaticlly go into a shared folder. THIS is what breaks copyright law. Use Morpheus instead of Kazaa or BitTorrent and check the little check box that says not to share downloaded stuff, put indie music that the artists WANT you to share in your shared folders, as well as shareware, freeware, and open source software and you're not only legal, you're helping open source programmers and indie musicians have their stuff be seen. And even if downloads were illegal they would have no way of knowing you downloaded it any way.

The MAFIAA fight isn't to keep their stuff off your computer, it's to keep indie stuff out of your ears. I get all my MAFIAA music legally and for free - I have a radio. I plug my legal headphone jack from my legal radio into my mostly legal computer using the legal EAC program and let 'er rip for a couple of hours, then mark songs I want to keep and save them at a far higher quality than any compressed file. Not CD quality, but FM quality which is better than any Ogg, MP3, WMA, or AAC compressed nonsense. And it's far less hassle and work than any P2P client I've seen.

The MAFIAA keeps indies off of radio and empty-v. The indies' only way of getting their stuff out is internet web pages (expensive for MP3s) and P2P. The MAFIAA isn't worried about your "stealing" what they give away for FREE on the radio, it's about killing the competetion.

I use to use Morpheus for stuff they don't play on the radio or sell in the stores, but since we have WQNA here I haven't fired up morpheus in years; in fact the Windows side of my PC isn't even internet capable.

There are hundreds of thousands, maybe millions, of songs out there that indie artists want you to hear, but the problem is all that MAFIAA dreck in the way. Do you know how many songs there are named "scatterbrain?" And most of them are MAFIAA songs; trying to find an indie's song with that name, with your downloads going into a shared folder, is an invitation for a MAFIAA suit.

-mcgrew sm62704

I like WQNA "The Edge". You might hear punk, you might hear jazz, you might hear soul, you might hear anything. I once heard, in order, a Johnny Cash song followed by a Dead Kennedys song followed by a Frank Sinatra song!

A friend of mine does the blues show there on Sunday afternoons (hi, Mike!)