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point well taken, perhaps I should have said 2 offers.. cause one was more like a nibble, the interest in pursuing it was declined

Litigation with them can be fruitful IF one has the funding and nerves of tempered steel, lives like a monk and doesnt mind having pets killed or a strange animal carcass show up in the kids sandbox...or windows broken on the car...It really is much like the movie "The Insider"

Though being in Scientology is exactly like "The Truman Show"

Your posting shows that you have a clue, that fact shows me that Scientology's days are numbered...

Arnie Lerma Ferengi + Borg = Scientology
I'd prefer to die speaking my mind than live fearing to speak.
The only thing that always works in scientology are its lawyers
The internet is the liberty tree of the new millennium
Secrets are the mortar binding lies as bricks together into prisons for the mind
http://www.lermanet.com- mentioned 4 January 2000 in
The Washington Post's - 'Reliable Source' column re "Scientologist with no HEAD"
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re nicole, so would I, but admitting it would be twisted into claims by Scientology that critics are stalkers....

For example, Scientology framed and convicted Kieth Henson after feigning that he scared them with a Tom Cruise Missle, after buying the local DA in Riverside county named Grover Trask

I contend that Keith was just having too much fun...his site is the operatingthetan.com site mentioned in topic

Arnie Lerma
Ferengi + Borg = Scientology
I'd prefer to die speaking my mind than live fearing to speak.
The only thing that always works in scientology are its lawyers
The internet is the liberty tree of the new millennium
Secrets are the mortar binding lies as bricks together into prisons for the mind
http://www.lermanet.com- mentioned 4 January 2000 in
The Washington Post's - 'Reliable Source' column re "Scientologist with no HEAD"
You want Bigots? http://members.cox.net/bwarr2/Movie2.html

The Copyright Ruse

A fellow named Ralph Oman described "economic freebies" being handed out to "sympathetic supplicants" in a letter to the editor in the Washington Post. His obtuse language ignored the fact of his previous employment by Scientology as a expert witness in RTC vs Lerma, Rich Leiby, The Washington Post, Marc Fisher and Digital Gateway Systems.

Scientology and its 'leader' David Miscavige through his company ASI, "Author Services International" and their DC lobby company Federal Legislative Associaties, lobbied hard through Sonny Bono, when he was on the Intellectual Property Committee, for the 90 year extension to the copyright law and for the DMCA law.

What was at stake was what I consider the criminal instruction manuals for running the Scientology con upon the public. The copyright controversy is only about money, BIG money.

The timing of this letter, and the current google fracas is importnat, because the US supreme court is currently reviewing a challenge to the 90 year copyright law..

The Constitution is about protecting individual liberty in hopes of ensuring the possibility of "the pursuit of happiness," in this life not the hereafter or after crossing some claimed "bridge to total freedom".

The balancing of these two factors should be governed by what is in the public interest, not the interests of well paid lawyers, their multinational corporate clients, or their expert witnesses like Ralph Oman.

we owe scientology a debt of gratitude for their despicable conduct brings bad, exploitable, abusable, badly written law into the public eye

So to this degree, it is about Scientology, because it is about bad laws....bad laws allow predatory shyster organizations like scientology to survive. Arnie Lerma
Ferengi + Borg = Scientology
I'd prefer to die speaking my mind than live fearing to speak.
The only thing that always works in scientology are its lawyers
The internet is the liberty tree of the new millennium
Secrets are the mortar binding lies as bricks together into prisons for the mind
http://www.lermanet.com- mentioned 4 January 2000 in
The Washington Post's - 'Reliable Source' column re "Scientologist with no HEAD"
You want Bigots? http://members.cox.net/bwarr2/Movie2.html

Well... It could be done now, if there were, perhaps 5 million dollars available to bankroll it.

The scientology litigation machine uses litigation stress and expense to buy silence.

see the graphicindex on lermanet.com

arnie lerma
ex-member Ferengi + Borg = Scientology
I'd prefer to die speaking my mind than live fearing to speak.
The only thing that always works in scientology are its lawyers
The internet is the liberty tree of the new millennium
Secrets are the mortar binding lies as bricks together into prisons for the mind
http://www.lermanet.com- mentioned 4 January 2000 in
The Washington Post's - 'Reliable Source' column re "Scientologist with no HEAD"
You want Bigots? http://members.cox.net/bwarr2/Movie2.html

Speaking of dead bodies... I was rceently contacted by a lady that used to be high up in Scientology in Clearwater who had read this list of bizzare deaths at thier headquarters.

http://www.b-org.demon.nl/scn/deaths/reports/00-su icide-reports-index.html#add She told me we only knew about the tip of the iceberg.

All folks have to do to defeat scientology and send it to the scarp yard of history is to keep on getting the word out,

Arnie Lerma
Ferengi + Borg = Scientology
I'd prefer to die speaking my mind than live fearing to speak.
The only thing that always works in scientology are its lawyers
The internet is the liberty tree of the new millennium
Secrets are the mortar binding lies as bricks together into prisons for the mind
http://www.lermanet.com- mentioned 4 January 2000 in
The Washington Post's - 'Reliable Source' column re "Scientologist with no HEAD"
You want Bigots? http://members.cox.net/bwarr2/Movie2.html

Well... Im running irc.scientologylies.com on the same machine that serves lermanet.com.. comin by.. to prevent the sort of problem you had on efnet.. I require folks to show me ID and authenticate.. and we check them out a bit to make sure they are actually doing something to expose scientology.

This allows the folks like you who want to learn more, exchange information and track the patterns of dirty tricks done by osa upon the various critics to do so, without as much worry that it will end up being used in evedence againt you in court. Nothing is perfect, we do the best we can

There is public channel there also #scientology... where we don't ID people.

There is also #altreligionscientology on Dalnet..

Arnie Lerma Ex-Clam Ferengi + Borg = Scientology
I'd prefer to die speaking my mind than live fearing to speak.
The only thing that always works in scientology are its lawyers
The internet is the liberty tree of the new millennium
Secrets are the mortar binding lies as bricks together into prisons for the mind
http://www.lermanet.com- mentioned 4 January 2000 in
The Washington Post's - 'Reliable Source' column re "Scientologist with no HEAD"
You want Bigots? http://members.cox.net/bwarr2/Movie2.html

"And when the data is removed form the search engine, it, on the long run, is removed from the public conscious."Yup, I truly understand your point, where will it end?

Rich Leiby at the Washington post talked about this in his christmas day 1994 article which is webbed here: http://www.lermanet.com/cos/lerma.html "The Church's War Against Its Critics----and Truth"

Thats why I chose to fight them...though there seems to be a very thin market for the whole of the truth

Ferengi + Borg = Scientology
I'd prefer to die speaking my mind than live fearing to speak.
The only thing that always works in scientology are its lawyers
The internet is the liberty tree of the new millennium
Secrets are the mortar binding lies as bricks together into prisons for the mind
http://www.lermanet.com- mentioned 4 January 2000 in
The Washington Post's - 'Reliable Source' column re "Scientologist with no HEAD"
You want Bigots? http://members.cox.net/bwarr2/Movie2.html