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MailList King, like all of the products, was created because i personally had a need to manage the people who were asking to be contacted about new releases of our software (most of our software is viewers and slideshow tools).

Presently our site is bobbing on and off line due to the hits from slashdot, but hopefully this will subside before too long and I can get back to what i do (making shareware).

The fraudulent site in question is now down, due to the efforts of slashdot readers. We are still getting abusive e-mails and threats from him (in fact i see he has even posted to this board), but I expect that too will pass.

Regards

Nigel Cross
Xequte Software
www.xequte.com

On this screenshot: http://www.xequte.com/cgi-bin/viewmlk.asp?index=1& sender=../software/swpag.html it looks like you're showing (some) authentic e-mail addresses. You might want to blur them or something.

WTF is 10,00,000k ?

So that's what a "Gazillion" looks like... An email list that is a gazillion or above email addresses.

Take a look at the product pages...

The real developer.
The scum-sucking con artist.

They're effectively identical, so yes, I would say the guy is still selling the software, just under a different name.

Of course, it's debatable whether you'd actually get anything from this guy if you were silly enough to send him money... anybody who's willing to fake a credit card to register his domain is not on my list of places to send my card details to.

Well goto here and all he did was change th icons and the names a little. Match the previous link with the one in the article.

"Yeah, this will be used by small mom-n-pop spammers... the ones that send 100k emails from their Cox/Comcast business connections. This kind of software is not used by serious spammers, but it's still spam, and it's still wrong, and I still have the fact that I have to dedicate and my ISP has to dedicate so many resources to try to reduce the problem."

Why would small time spammers pay for mailing list software, when they can get it for free from the Free Software Foundation?

This guy has one piece of mailing list software, in addition to several other software packages that have got nothing to do with spam. He probably wrote the mailing list software to use it for his own customers at first, and then figured that he might as well sell it to others too.

Most companies today use mailing lists to send out newsletters to customers. It's completely legitimate. When the MailList King product page even talks about "double opt-in confirmations", then that should tell you something.

Stop it now, OK? Just stop it.

MailList King is a piece of mailing list software, you know, the kind where you can set up a mailing list for discussion, or use it to send information to your customers. He explains it clearly on his site! Sure, you can probably use it for spam, but that's not the author's fault is it? If MailList King is spamming software, then GNU Mailman from GNU.ORG is too. Can you all see how ridiculous all this spam talk sounds?

If you people had actually bothered to visit the page and read the text, you would have known that the screenshot is of the scammer's site. Yes, those bulk e-mail programs, e-mail addresses for sale, and so on, are all completely unrelated to the author of MailList King software, apart from his program and the content of his site being ripped off by a spammer/scammer (it seems that the scammer has just renamed the software, but he still has the text from the actuall MailList King page on his site).

As far as I can tell, all the evidence so far clearly shows that the MailList King author is not a spammer or involved in such activities. Until someone posts evidence to the contrary, I suggest that you all stop shouting about spammers when the only spammer here is the guy who ripped off Xecute's software. Seriously, people.

One thing I'm disappointed about, though, is that he didn't follow up on this. The site clearly belongs to a spammer, and he rips off other people's sites and software, making money from spamming and scamming. As mentioned above, he simply renamed the mailing list software, but the product page on the scammer's site still shows text taken directly from the original page.

I would have hoped that this spammer/scammer could have been nailed down and kicked off the 'net. Perhaps someone else can pick it up from here and track down the scammer to put an end to his online adventure?

MailList King is a piece of mailing list software, you know, the kind where you can set up a mailing list for discussion, or use it to send information to your customers. He explains it clearly on his site! Sure, you can probably use it for spam, but that's not the author's fault is it? If MailList King is spamming software, then GNU Mailman from GNU.ORG is too. Can you all see how ridiculous all this spam talk sounds?

If you people had actually bothered to visit the page and read the text, you would have known that the screenshot is of the scammer's site. Yes, those bulk e-mail programs, e-mail addresses for sale, and so on, are all completely unrelated to the author of MailList King software, apart from his program and the content of his site being ripped off by a spammer/scammer (it seems that the scammer has just renamed the software, but he still has the text from the actuall MailList King page on his site).

As far as I can tell, all the evidence so far clearly shows that the MailList King author is not a spammer or involved in such activities. Until someone posts evidence to the contrary, I suggest that you all stop shouting about spammers when the only spammer here is the guy who ripped off Xecute's software. Seriously, people.

One thing I'm disappointed about, though, is that he didn't follow up on this. The site clearly belongs to a spammer, and he rips off other people's sites and software, making money from spamming and scamming. As mentioned above, he simply renamed the mailing list software, but the product page on the scammer's site still shows text taken directly from the original page.

I would have hoped that this spammer/scammer could have been nailed down and kicked off the 'net. Perhaps someone else can pick it up from here and track down the scammer to put an end to his online adventure?

MailList King is a piece of mailing list software, you know, the kind where you can set up a mailing list for discussion, or use it to send information to your customers. He explains it clearly on his site! Sure, you can probably use it for spam, but that's not the author's fault is it? If MailList King is spamming software, then GNU Mailman from GNU.ORG is too. Can you all see how ridiculous all this spam talk sounds?

If you people had actually bothered to visit the page and read the text, you would have known that the screenshot is of the scammer's site. Yes, those bulk e-mail programs, e-mail addresses for sale, and so on, are all completely unrelated to the author of MailList King software, apart from his program and the content of his site being ripped off by a spammer/scammer (it seems that the scammer has just renamed the software, but he still has the text from the actuall MailList King page on his site).

As far as I can tell, all the evidence so far clearly shows that the MailList King author is not a spammer or involved in such activities. Until someone posts evidence to the contrary, I suggest that you all stop shouting about spammers when the only spammer here is the guy who ripped off Xecute's software. Seriously, people.

One thing I'm disappointed about, though, is that he didn't follow up on this. The site clearly belongs to a spammer, and he rips off other people's sites and software, making money from spamming and scamming. As mentioned above, he simply renamed the mailing list software, but the product page on the scammer's site still shows text taken directly from the original page.

I would have hoped that this spammer/scammer could have been nailed down and kicked off the 'net. Perhaps someone else can pick it up from here and track down the scammer to put an end to his online adventure?

Look at the guy's site before you spout off. He has a lot of other software, most of it related to graphics. And MailList, like any mailing software, could be used for spamming, but its features seem more designed for (legit) mailings, discussion lists, etc. I don't think it has stealth features, to hide the sender, add chaff to confuse filters, and other such that would mark it as evil by design.

Just browsing his site and forums, it doesnt appear that he intents this software to be used by spammers. Though the name really sucks.

Agreed. This guy deserves the benifit of the doubt on this one.

If you take a look at his other software it is clear that his business is not spam-centric.

Maillist King is no "SpamShoveler 3000" either, as it doesn't have many of the features that I see in the spam I have been regularly receiving.

Also, there are legitimate businesses that send out mailings to customers. There are a couple that I don't mind receiving that tells me about new stuff on the shelves.

So the criticisms are not justified IMHO.