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Re:Amiga?
System friendly applications will run through JIT emulation, and you also got some native apps.
For the less friendly things you'll have to run complete machine emulation such as UAE.
For instance I assume YAM just work, but through emulation:
http://trac.yam.ch/OWB would most likely run native:
http://fabportnawak.free.fr/owb/
http://charlie.amigaspirit.hu/screenshots/macmini/mini-MorphOS-OWB-1.8-teaser.movHey, it plays videos from Youtube! More capable than iPad?
...Here you've got Project X running in E-UAE in MorphOS:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xd0zzh_uae-in-ambient_videogames -
Re:Here are Ten Ways that Amiga OS 5 can work
#1 Develop X86 versions of it to run on PC systems. Use UAE to run the older 68K Amiga software on it.
I think they could do more simply promoting WinUAE on Windows system - there's Amiga Forever at least, but there's interesting setups like AmiKit which provide a complete setup with lots of applications. Maybe get the rights for a few old games too.
#2 Develop PPC versions of it for the Amiga PPC, PowerMac, and CHRP hardware sets so people with older systems can run it as well.
Well if it was on x86, you could run it on older hardware there (which'd also be cheaper and more commonly available).
#4 Get software developers to write AmigaOS 5 ports of their popular software. Get OpenOffice.Org, StarOffice, Quicken, Turbo Tax, Photoshop, Lotus Smartsuite, etc ported.
#5 Get Blizzard, and other game makers to write AmigaOS 5 versions of their popular games.
Sadly this seems unlikely, unless they have a lot of money to pay them for porting.
#6 Get the F/OSS projects ported to AmigaOS 5, like Firefox, Thunderbird, Eurdora, GNUCash, Apache, CVS, The Gimp, etc ported.
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Re:Pure vaporware
AmigaOS 4 is in beta, but will not be finished until hardware is available to run it on
There is no hardware to run AmigaOS 4 on
To clarify - there was hardware at least (the AmigaOne), available for several years now - though it seems to be the case that this hardware is no longer available.
No email clients that support HTML mail, POP3 with SSL etc.
YAM claims to support POP3 with SSL, and I believe it can support HTML mail with an extension.
AROS is probably the best bet at the moment.
Don't forget Pegasos/MorphOS! (Though I'm happy with WinUAE, myself.) I agree it was a shame it wasn't open sourced.
Also note that although there haven't been commercial games for years (not that I'd be buying anything other than Windows/consoles if I wanted to play games), things have been released more recently than Quake (Quake 2 at least, and a few others I think). -
Re:Remember aRexx?
I know the Amiga didn't really suffer that many of them (mostly the old bootblock viruses in the floppy disk days) but imagine an Email app with an ARexx port
YAM has an ARexx port, including the ability to send to mails with it.
However, I don't believe these can be ran from within the program directly by default (you'd have to save it out and run it externally). I once tried setting it up to do so (purely for academic interest, of course!) by setting 'rx' as a 'viewer' for ARexx scripts, but I couldn't get it to do so - I don't know if this was because I was doing something wrong, or because it has intentionally been blocked somewhere. -
Re:$4000!
Yeah, but what software on the Amiga is really worth porting to a new OS?
I'd like to see YAM (open source email client), and MUI (GUI toolkit - sadly closed source, but there is an open source clone, Zune).
The only tool I would like would be Bars and Pipes Professional, but then there's no source code for that.
I believe Microsoft released the source code when they brought out the company who developed it, and discontinued it. Check out here.
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Useless?I'm using Eudora 5 now. Until last year, I used Marcel Beck's YAM on the Amiga (both real hardware and emulated on the PC via WinUAE). When I fully moved over to the PC, I was thinking that, surely, mail programs must offer better features, more control and better useability, seeing how they are not written by hobby programmers in their spare time. I guess I was wrong.
Even though Eudora 5 offers some new features and bugfixes, I'm disappointed that the major headlight in this version is a "mood watch", which seems to me like nothing more than a filter that displays an small image whenever it stumbles across a potentially offensive word.
I don't know how large the Eudora team is, but I'm sure there would be better things to implement or reconsider than a basic algorithm that controls the user's language. I am rarely in the mood to use any words Eudora might consider as offensive, but if I am, I still feel that I would be a better judge of what can be said and what can't than any mail program could possibly be.
Besides, what about multi-language users? I typically write emails in four different languages. While I'm sure French and German will get implemented, I somehow doubt that the team would know enough Luxembourgish to build up a suitable database.
One thing it does though, I have to admit, is that it offers a pretty reliable filter for any "free xxx" spam mails I receive.
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Re:(or NEdit released under the GPL, anyone?)... give AmigaOS a 'POSIX-layer' and a X-capable API, and you got a good startingpoint for something more innovative than all those *nix-clones.
There is a start of that with ixemul.library. Most of the GNU toolset has been ported and makes a nice developement system (If a little slow and memory hungry on a 25MHz machine with 8MB RAM)
There is even a start of an X server, but I could never get it running (It needs way more then 8MB RAM).
Check ftp://ftp.ninemoons.com/pub/geekgadgets/ if you have an Amiga and want to check it out.
My favorite trick on the Amiga is still VMM. User space virtual memory!
And YAM is still one of the best mail clients I have ever used. http://www.yam.ch