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Pi and the bible.
1 Kings 7:23.
Of course, you can wrangle a way to make it make sense if you look hard enough. Or even come up with a plausible way for it to be a rounding error. Or, y'know, a guess. There's plenty else to mock in the Bible.
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Re:Nonsense!!!!
Just an interesting anecdote... in the passage the Hebrew word for 'line' is used for the circumference, however the word has an added character. As in Hebrew letters correspond to numbers, the ratio of the two words is 111/106.
Taking the 'false' value of pi as 3, then 3x111/106=333/106=3.14150943 which gives an error of 0.000026%. Coincidence? It could be, it might not be.
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Re:Ethical questions
read this
note the part about
In all living systems the building blocks of the DNA and RNA exist exclusively in the right-handed form, while the amino acids in virtually all proteins in living systems, with very rare exception, occur only in the left-handed form
also read this
There is only one life on Earth. This is one of the most profound recent discoveries of biology. All life forms on Earth have the same biochemistry. Life is based on a common set of some 20 amino acids. Both left-handed and right-handed (laevo- and dextro-rotary) isomers of these acids exist in the laboratory, but life uses only left-handed amino acids. When you die, the amino acids in your body will gradually convert to 50% left-handed and 50% right handed by quantum processes. This racemerization can be used to date organic remains. All life shares the same genetic code: RNA and DNA. Thus life shares a common ancestor.
so the amino acids to form life DONT exist naturally and never have ....but they got here somehow...................... -
Re:The Bible is the earliest Tech Manual
actually, the bible does have some good old tech stuff in it, check out 1 Kings 7:23 for an example of Solomon and something he built with regards to the value of Pi. Then consider the time period he was in and that he was off by only 0.0000832
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Re:Lost Tribes
Hmm, I seem to have earned a higher moderation than necessary for some poorly recalled Biblical history. So I turned to the ever faithful Google, and lo the first five links are crackpots.
After swimming through that stuff you get to the encyclopedic summary of the Sunday school lessons I never paid attention to. So my first error, Jacob had 11 sons, of which he adopted the two grandsons of one, Joseph, leading to 13 tribes. But then why do people refer to 12 tribes of Israel? Because the 13th tribe descended from the 3rd son, Levi, is a special case. The Levites, were the priest class and had no land in Israel although they controlled the temple. Incidentally, the high priests were known as Kohanim, from which we get the last name Cohen. There is evidence that we can trace the dispersal of the Kohanim Levites down through the ages via genetics. One of the odder places this line turns up is among the Lemba tribe of South Africa.
OK, so that settles the issue of the number and origins of the tribes of Israel. So now I'll apologize to any Mormons whose beliefs I have mischaracterised. I understood that Mormons believed a group of Jews had arrived in North America, I was mistaken in that I supposed Mormons believed in an otherwise unknown tribe of Israel. If you really want to amuse yourself, follow the crackpot Google links into some head spinning discussions about the Biblical role the modern United States is supposed to play.
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Re:Some hoaxes based on realityhe he
The hoaxers fell for an urban legend. The Bible doesn't say that pi is 3.0.Does the Bible say pi equals 3.0?
Does the Bible Give a Wrong Value for Pi?
I see four major issues in the relevant Scripture:
- We don't know the exact length of a cubit.
- We aren't sure of the complete geometry of what was being measured.
- The Scripture is giving measurements of real-world objects, not presenting a mathematical theorem. If the numbers seem wrong to us, we're not understanding what was being measured.
- We don't know what kind of rounding, if any, was being used.
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Re:GE corn? Why the fuss?
Yeah, it also defines Pi as 3.
(Well, a lot of people believed it did, because it says some part of Solomon's temple was 10 cubits in diameter and 30 cubits in circumference. Eventually some Jewish scholars decided 30 cubits was the INNER circumference, while the diameter went from outer end to outer end. Read the whole story from a guy who takes it way too seriously.) -
Re:Old news
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Re:Biblical precidence
pi = 3
And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.
1 Kings 7:23
Sorry. You have incompletely analysed the verse. Try this: http://www.yfiles.com/pi.html -
Re:It goes against reason, check your bible !
Maybe you should read This
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Re:Pi = 3 and other stupidities
I wasn't defending creationism (or denying it) I just don't like to see people throw false facts out to try to prove their case. And if you accually read the Atheism FAQ you just pointed me to, it in no way mentiones the theory stated above, much less disproves it.
Note: if you wern't replying to me, I apologize, but I see no reason for a rational person atheist or not standing up for ungrounded arguments. -
Re:Creationism not always a problem
Just one more piece of proof concerning people who love to spout off irrational ideas. The bible doesn't say that pi = 3. You have to understand the way the hebrew language works to understand what it really says. But just because we translated it wrong, doesn't mean jack.
umm (not a page I would personally recommend but first one I found from searching pi and bible.. but basically explains the problem)