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Stephen Hawking on The Future

RalfM writes "As far as people worth listening to go, Stephen Hawking is right up there. Some newspapers are currently presenting a rare interview with him about the future. Points mentioned include Marylin Monroe, off-planet migration, DNA reprogramming, limits to human brain processing ("We can be quick-witted or very intelligent, but not both.") and more. "

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  1. Re:Why in person? - Because it's ABOUT the person! by Jon+Peterson · · Score: 3

    Um...

    The article is an article about Stephen Hawking, not about Stephen Hawking's thoughts or Stephen Hawking's works.

    It is IMNSHO a very good article, since rather than regurgitating his theories in a layman's language that is both inaccurate and hard for most people to understand, it actually focusses on the person himself.

    I had no idea it took that length of time to compose his answers. I had no idea what sort of room he lived in or that he had come so close to death.

    I'll grant you that this age has an unhealthly interest in personality and personality cults, but this article was a good few notches above Hello magazine. It struck me as an honest account of what and how the author felt interview the person, and since I have often wondered what it would be like to talk to him, I found it interesting.

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  2. Some thoughts from the peanut gallery by jd · · Score: 3
    First off, I agree with other posters. This article destribes the humanity of Professor Hawking, something a lot of other journalists miss.

    Second, having been to a lecture given by Professor Hawking, I can say that any description of his humour will always be understated. He is absolutely brilliant, in a way that isn't blaming or shaming, but -does- draw a laugh.

    Third, I felt Professor Hawking's first wife was a little unfairly treated in the article. It can't be easy being in a 100% dependent relationship with a media & scientific celebrity, who is also a genius. Everyone needs to receive, sometime, but in a situation like that, it's difficult to imagine Jane receiving much of the affection or support she needs, as a human being. That's not to say that she's an "innocent victim", or anything. The illness was affecting Professor Hawking severely (leading to at least one collapse, according to the TV version of Brief History) long before they met. Jane may have had a very rough time of things, and my deepest sympathies for that, but it almost certainly was in full knowledge of what she was doing. Passing the buck helps no-one, and merely sets her well on the path of making similar choices in future, choosing emotionally and/or physically unavailable people for friends or relationships. That's not a clever path to be on. Fortunately, it is possible to choose another, but only if the person chooses.

    Fourthly, contact with alien civilisations does NOT require "them" to be at the same level of technology as yourself. That, I think, is a flaw in Professor Hawking's logic. They merely need to have used comparable technology within a window of time that matches up with how long it takes for such signals to reach us, within the timespan that usable detectors exist on Earth. (eg: We could detect electromagnetic devices or -very- intense Neutrino devices with existing observatories. As more forms of information are discovered, more forms of communication are covered, even if we are not as yet capable of understanding such communication.)

    Lastly, you don't need to break the speed of light to exceed it. If there is any way of exploiting non-local effects, quantum-scale wormholes, tesseracts, or other strange (but mathematically valid) phenomina, it may be possible to travel very long distances in relatively short times, WITHOUT causing time-travel paradoxes. This may be a solution to the problem.

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  3. His illnes and celebrity by Skip666Kent · · Score: 3

    You are correct, in my opinion, that a significant (but unknown) part of his celebrity is due to his illness. He said so much himself when he said that his illness was an inseparable part of himself. The curiosity aroused by his illness attracts the attention that then brings his genius to light. The coupling of the two make for a fascinating human being. The fact that people ask him questions about et's and whatnot is simply due to the everpresent hope on the part of young interviewers that Someone Significant will reassure us in our dreams that what we see on Star Trek will soon become a reality. ANY time ANYONE interviews a popular scientist, these questions are asked. Par for the course and fine with me. The responses are always enlightening and/or entertaining if you are willing to read into them and the interviewer's reactions.

    You sound a little bitter about his success, and I'm sure you have your own personal reasons for that, largely boiling down to jealousy and/or disappointment in your own achievements and the recognition you feel they do or don't deserve. Get over it, I say, and get on with your own work, whatever that is. No one ever achieved greatness OR celebrity by muttering bitterly about the success of another.

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  4. a shame by ilkahn · · Score: 3
    This was quite frankly, one of the worst articles I feel like I have ever read. Dr. Hawking is one of the most brilliant minds of our time, i think I get a big duh for that one, and I was so excited that in an article with we might get to read and understand a few of the brilliant insights into the world around us that he has.

    However, I was treated to an article about the writer, in which he described, in great detail, every aspect of Dr. Hawkings condition. This was not what I was looking for, it is sad that this article made it through a writer, and an editor. At no point no one stopped to think, "Hm... we have a genious here, why are we spending most of our time on how the writer perceives things?" Call me crazy, but I don't give two shits about how the writer felt about the 5 minute long pauses between answers, I equally don't give a shit about the regimen of pills and Dr. Hawkings love life! I wanted meat, I wanted guts, I wanted science... and I got fluff. Hell of a way to throw away a chance to trully ask why and wherefore of genious... by the same token, I know a lot of the journalism majors at my university... and I don't think they could have come up with much better questions either. A better standard for interviewing and journalism is needed, the journalist is just an eye witness to the world around him, not an active participant... that's just my 2 cents.

    1. Re:a shame by Croaker · · Score: 3

      If you wanted meaty science discussion, you could just read his book, or some of his papers.

      I actually liked the article, since it gave you insight into the man. He is a fascinating figure, for precisely the contradiction the reporter stated: the giant intellect locked in a body incapable of communicating more than a few words per minute.

      In a way, the article de-romanticised Hawking. He's just a man, although incredibly gifted and incredibly infirm. You get more of a feel for his sense of humor, and at the same time a feel for the ego behind it. All people generally see of him is the wheelchair, the voice synthesizer, and the towering intellect. It's interesting that he, too, has feelings, has failings, and even acknowledges them.

      It seems easy to put men like Hawking into a typecast role. Einstein, for example, was probably the root of the "absent minded professor" stereotype that's turned up in so many movies. It came as a revelation to many that he had had a child outsite of marriage, and had actually treated the mother and child fairly poorly. To understand these people, and how they came to be who they are, it's important to look at the entire person.

      Of course, there's nothing wrong with just looking at a person's body of work. For most of the music I listen to, for example, I couldn't care less about the personal lives of the artist. In some cases, you want to get to know the person behind the art or science, in other cases you don't. This was an article for people who wanted to get to know a bit more about Hawking, the man, rather than Hawking's body of scientific work.

  5. What irony? by Sloppy · · Score: 3

    His brilliant mind is, for evolutionary sake, useless if in his crippled body.

    That's funny, I thought the man had children and even grandchildren. That pretty much shoots down the 'useless for evolutionary sake' argument.

    As for 'survival of the fittest' it is important to realize that nature's idea of fitness is very different from what humans value as desirable. A lot of people seem to have this really weird idea that, as the human race evolves, we will become more "advanced" in an idealistic StarTrek kind of way -- we'll become smarter, for example. But that doesn't necessarily follow. If Darwinian genetic selection has its way, we might get smarter and faster, or we might dumb down and turn into Cockroach People instead. Who knows?

    But the whole process is being tampered with on a wide scale these days, anyway. While Uncle Chuck's theory of evolution does a great job of explaining the past, it's almost useless for predicting the future. For the last few thousand years, memetic selection has totally overpowered genetic selection, and even genetics themselves will be manipulated (as Hawking touched on in the article). The situation is so complex now, that there's just no telling who is really more "fit" and who isn't. That crippled people like Hawking are around, isn't ironic or surprising at all.


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  6. Not just a scientific review. by dkh2 · · Score: 3
    So many are upset by the article because of this point of that. I agree that it could have been better written. I agree that the author's perceptions/feelings about delays between answers are irrelevant.

    What we come down to is this:

    • We all agree that the man is brilliant beyond measure.
    • We get a chance to see that while he's an intellectual giant, he's also as human as the rest of us.
    Conversationally, although slow, Hawking is fascinating. He has knowledge and understanding on a broad range of subjects. Why else would Cosmopolitan readers vote him one or the 10 sexiest men on the planet? {My wife showed that one to me.})

    We come away from this article, not with some Earth shattering pearl of wisdom from Dr. Hawking but, with a glimps into what his world is like.
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  7. Some people just don't get it. by Robert+Link · · Score: 3
    I confess, I'm a little puzzled by all the negative reactions this article is getting. I thought it was an excellent piece of journalism. Where it could have given us a few stock quotes reiterating the stuff in Hawking's books it gives us instead, a real insight into how Hawking thinks, instead of just what he thinks.


    Most of the outrage seems to center around the "expressing his thoughts at the speed of an imbecille" comment. When I read this comment, I saw in it, not the writer's impatience with, but his empathy for Hawking's condition. The writer was trying to get us to imagine for a moment what it would be like to live that way and how it might change our outlook on life. We have to wonder, could we cope the way Hawking has? In a similar vein, the connection the writer draws between Hawking's condition and his prediction of genetic engineering in the future was insightful.


    Of course, if you went in hoping for a slate of predictions about what might await us in the years to come, I can see how you would be disappointed, but, frankly, I am bored with futurists' predictions. They fall basically into two categories: wild and largely unfounded speculation, and timid, conservative predictions of incremental change. I find Hawking himself more interesting than his predictions were likely to be, and I was glad the writer used speculating about the future as a pretext to give us a glimpse into what makes him tick.


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  8. Stephen Hawking: The Slashdot Interview by gonar · · Score: 3

    Has there ever been one?

    If so, when

    if not why not?

    I would think that we could come up with better questions than this moronic journalist did.

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  9. Why he is so intelligent... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4

    "a man with a freakishly quick, brilliant and creative mind condemned forever to articulate his thoughts at the speed of an imbecile."

    Perhaps this is why he's so smart. He's forced to think about what he says before he does it. Many of us are lead to knee jerk reactions :)

  10. Running out of space by 2600 by Jon+Abbott · · Score: 4

    I did some math to check his claim of the earth being full by 2600, and it's quite funny -- the population density (following only the exponential condition that was given) would be one person per 0.78 m^2!

    The formula I used is this:
    ((4*pi*(6371315)^2)*.3)/((6e9)*2^n), where n is the number of times the population doubles. The exponential condition given was that the population doubles each 40 years. I used 3:10 as the land to total area ratio.

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  11. Random thoughts by EricWright · · Score: 4

    As I read through the article, I was hit by a flurry of mixed emotions.

    One of the first things to hit me was that the author was trying to portray Dr. Hawking as an actual human being, as opposed to the "cybernetic being" his illness has forced him into. The reference to his image superimposed on a picture of Marilyn Monroe was a refreshing divergence from the usual portrayal of the man.

    However, I was later offended by the author's apparent lack of patience. His comment about "a man...condemned forever to articulate his thoughts at the speed of an imbecile" made me wince. Here he is, one of a privileged few journalists with the opportunity to spend an afternoon with the greatest mind of the last 50 years, and he is focussing on the man's physical disabilities. I nearly stopped reading at that point.

    I didn't, though. And later on, even though the author repeatedly referred to the duration of the pauses he "endured", I began to detect a shift in the author's attitude. For one, by the end of the article, he was focusing more and more on *what* Dr. Hawking had to say, and not the way in which it was said. The man can't help it if a computer has to vocalize his thoughts for him. Thankfully, this issue was deemphasized later on.

    One the the high points of the article is that it touches on the guest appearances he has done on ST:TNG and The Simpsons. I find it interesting that he enjoys the satiric, biting wit of the Simpsons!

    One point I want to make, that the author didn't, and may not even know, refers to the quote from David Schramm (yes, this is probably quite minor)... the author refers to Dr. Schramm in the present. Unfortunately, he passed away in a single-engine plane crash in December 1997.

    All in all, I though the interview contained much information about his personal life that has not been addressed much in other articles. I just wish the author had not come across as a bit crass in the beginning. If I did not come from a physics background, and thus hold Dr. Hawking in the highest regard, I might not have read the article through to the end for that reason.

    All this, of course, IMO. And yes, real news for nerds!

    Eric

  12. Why ask Hawking? by Stephen · · Score: 4

    I have to be careful here, because I work in the next building to him!

    But I wonder why people feel it's useful to ask Prof. Hawking these type of questions. Of course he's phenomenally intelligent. But he's a theoretical physicist. Are his opinions on space travel, genetic engineering etc. really of more worth than any other highly intelligent non-expert's?

    No, I fear that people only ask him because he's a celebrity. And I fear that he's mainly a celebrity because of his illness. But that's a whole nother rant...

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    1. Re:Why ask Hawking? by Enoch+Root · · Score: 5
      Not that I'm for hero worship, and I agree that his illness has something to do with his celebrity. Let's face it: it's romantic to think of Hawking as a genius trapped in an imperfect body. It's the uber-geek analogy. A lot of people identify with it, and scientists first.

      Now, I would hesitate to call Hawking a fraud because he's popular. I believe he's popular for a reason. During graduate studies in particle physics, I had the pleasure to go through nasty and complex peer-reviewed journals like Quantum Gravity and the eternal Physics Letter. I stumbled upon a few of Stephen Hawking's papers.

      They're the real thing. The guys does have a knack for theoretical thinking, and many of his ideas are both controversial, somewhat useless, and fascinating. He's done a lot of theoretical work on black holes, as well, and in this field, he is considered a pioneer.

      (One final exam question in a General Relativity class went like this: Given Hawking's Law, calculate the resulting maximal mass and angular momentum of two black holes of equal mass but opposite angular momentum. Fun!)

      The journalists and the public are to blame, here. They're the ones who go see Hawking like he's got some sort of dedicated phone line with God. But that's what's the public perception of science inevitably is. You wouldn't believe the questions I get asked that have nothing to do with my field of expertise.

      A Brief History of Time's goal was to entertain and make the public's mind bend around physics problems. As such, it was magnificently successful. Of course it ain't established astrophysical theory, and of course it contains controversial material. Anything that's ever been considered interesting in Science has been controversial. Heck, Newton's Theory of Gravitation is still considered controversial by some people.

      I think this interview illustrates the perception of the media, and the usual response Hawking gives. His whole 'We haven't received visitors from the future' gig is old, but it makes people laugh and dream. He plays the celebrity gig, and usually he doesn't have anything much to say to people looking up to him like some sort of Homeric hero. But to discredit him as a scientist, and say he's anything but a brilliant one, is not understanding the man fully.

      Yes, there are many other scientists alive who probably deserve Hawking's exposure, only for their ideas and their minds. But celebrity isn't just about minds. When Hawking and I speak of physics, the layman probably has no idea who says the most profound things, because it's all a blur to them. But Hawking is in a wheelchair and is an eccentric. And that, usually, means celebrity more than mastery of mathematics.