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XMMS Plugin Competition Closed - Voting Started
Jakdaw was one of the countless hordes who wrote with the news that the
XMMS plugin competition is now closed to new enteries. You can grab the new
plug-ins, tinker around with them, and than
vote for your favourite.
For your point and clicking pleasure, I took the liberty of linking these...
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UK - http://uk.xmms.org/plugins.html
US (virginia)- http://us.xmms.org/plugins.html
US (los angeles)- http://ca.us.xmms.org/plugins.html
US (maryland)- http://md.us.xmms.org/plugins.html
Holland- http://nl.xmms.org/plugins.html
Germany- http://de.xmms.org/plugins.html
GnomeICU doesn't require panel, gnome-session or anything else. You need to have the gnome libraries present, but if you launch it with a -a (eg "gnomeicu -a") it won't try and dock to the panel.
Pretty damn convenient considering E16 handles both GNOME and KDE apps, and considering I despise panels, bars, or anything else that eats up 1/8 of my screen w/o providing any useful functionality. I get both KDE and GNOME functionality, a fucking awesome WM, and GnomeICU.
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Umm... XMMS already supports {ice,shout}cast streams. Just make "xmms %s" the handler for mime type audio/x-scpls, extension .pls in Netscape
Of course, XMMS already supports playing ShoutCAST/Icecast streams, although I find on my P120 that it plays the streams much too slowly. I'm not sure whether this is because of my processor or because of a flaw in XMMS.
As for a streamer for XMMS (similar to the ShoutCAST plugin in for WinAmp) which would enable you to send your playing output to a *cast server, there isn't one. That is the one plugin I'm disappointed that I didn't see. It'd be great to be able to stream directly from XMMS and take advantage of everything that XMMS has to offer (perl modules, ease-of-use, etc.)
As it is it always canonicalizes your path -- if you organize your music directories using symbolic links it forgets which symbolic link you navigated into a directory by and puts you in the "real" directory. So I can't poke around all my romantic period music, it always dumps me back in the "by name" directory.
Hey, why don't we make the plugins themeable!
No, I'm kidding. Sorry.
It's an interesting idea, and experimentaiton is good - but you do have to think about the product at the business end of your process - if we printed on round paper a round wordprocessor would make sense.
What's important is to figure out what it is that people would prefer to do, if they'd thought of it, but haven't yet.
This is just like television, only you can see much further.
Never used Winamp myself...does it run on Linux? ;-)
XMMS is like an annoying amount of open source software nowadays...a cheap imitation of something that already exists (Winamp, in this case.)
No, XMMS is not like WinAmp. WinAmp is an MP3 player for Win32. XMMS is an MP3 player for POSIX and X.
More generally, if the only good programs are ones which do not build on existing concepts, we are in serious trouble. Thankfully, that is not the case.
dragonhawk@iname.microsoft.com
I do not like Microsoft. Remove them from my email address.
I love the one that takes the fancy themes and makes xmms use them, but it's not really a plugin (unless it's changed since I used it).
Nice idea though.
iain
it's cause I have Karma to burn and forgot to check a box, FAQ it!
again.
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if ACs like you would log in, I could set my prefs to ignore ACs that aren't like you, dangit. Unless you really do have that much time on your hands, and are fighting both for good and evil.
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binary eh, anybody see that FedEx commercial with the website designers...
.sig" button, hmmm..;)
"Binary riddles, people love those."
"It'll be obsolete by the time we walk out the doo, but that's o.k. We can come back and fix it."
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Gotta work that geek-PR angle, I mean.."postulating"!?!?
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:), sorry, I haven't flamed in a while, guess I need to play more Q3A. (now where's that "hide
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there's no "r" in "doo".
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About a.....I don't know his programming experiance, but just because you can code doesn't mean he can. I can only code very simple programs and I would have no idea where to start to program what he wants. This shouldn't be taken as a flame, but just relieze not everyone is a programmer. I see this assumption a lot when someone complains about something in Linux.
Sure, it's totally possible, but most display 2D acelleration is geared towards straight lines and rectangles.
When windows9X does the non-standard windows, it's not actually making them round. It just creates a rectangular window, then hides everything outside of a boundary you specify. Great for all sorts of shapes, you don't lose acelleration, but it looks out of place in everything except sonique and programs like it.
Many UI elements are based on windows being rectangular, like most are. I can't see a word processor being anything except like a sheet of paper, but like sonique (tho i have never used it), apps that do work in the back end (decoding/display only) would benefit from this, rather than those that do work in the front end (word processing).
Sorry, couldn't resist. I'm curious to see how low this message will be rated becasue of the title.
ON TOPIC: XMMS is great. I find it to be much more stable than winamp, which in win98 atleast skips when I change pages in IE5.
xmms is a sucky program for ugly bitches.get a life, get winamp
Does using Winamp mean you have a life? I usually use mpg123, what does that make me?
as always... tied up and petrified
Well, your plugin sounds like a cool idea, and I appreciate that you included the headers so that it would compile - but I'm afraid I can't vote for you, because the window for your plugin stays completely black all the time.
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They weren't ready for the Slashdot effect, were they? ;-)
.sig is referring to the Linux Drivers Petition. It couldn't even get through to them the day the story was first posted.
But seriously, I would like to suggest to anyone who is actually reading this, when you submit a story to Slashdot, submit the list of mirror sites if there are any. Only the biggest sites can handle the flash crowd that we generate on a hot story. As an example, my
The net will not be what we demand, but what we make it. Build it well.
The anti-XMMS-website-falling-on-its-ass-thanks-to-Sla shdot plugin...
Simon
The real linux_penguin has Slashdot ID 101961. Anyone else is an impostor. Including Bruce Perens.
screw karma, screw all the crap, perhaps a tip for some people would be helpful. Tired of the grits/natalie portman/stupid flaming 12-yearolds who make you sick crap? don't even want it to begin to exist on your slashdot thing? well, perhaps i can be of assistance. go into your preferences, and set the thing marked "-1 penalty if under x characters" (paraphrasing) ungodly high, and start surfing one point lower. It'll make all -1s go invisible, and presto, you've got an asshole free slashdot experience.
and if you don't care for me posting this, screw you....I'm not here to make friends, i'm here to garner knowledge that (seemingly) trustworthy people may have, and, strip the noise from the signal.
Mail me if you have any tips to deal with this situation.
http://missportman.cjb.net/ even has a Natalie Portman Winamp Skin.
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It's funny, because if xmms didn't exist, you or some other casual Linux user would be complaining about the lack of a program like Winamp. I hardly think xmms is cheap - it does its job very well.
I also wonder what you mean by "wasting it" - what is "it"? Time? People write software like this in their spare time, and they write what they want to. If they had to write software that they didn't want to write, it wouldn't be fun anymore.
Anyway. I agree that we need better software, and maybe a killer app or two, but it's still important to keep up with ubiquitous Windows software.
Your post is written quite like a troll. I'm glad some moderator realized that your post does, in fact, make some kind of point.
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I'm sure this would probably be pretty obvious to an experienced Linux user, but nowhere does it mention that none of these plug-ins will work without xmms-devel or the xmms source installed. That was kind of annoying until I figured it out.
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I've been wondering...instead of just making apps themable, would it be possible to make them modular/skinable/etc.?
More generally, how far can non-rectangular apps go? For example, could one create a word processor whose main window is a circle? I don't mean just the outer frame with menus or toolbars, but the actual text entry window. Of course, most language don't work that way, but is there the possibility of a meta- or para-language that could utilize such a display?
Granted, it would be weird/alien/scary for a while, but is anyone even considering such things?
I can think of three apps that 'break out of the box'. There's the Hyperbolic Tree apps from Inxight, The Brain from I don't know who, and the file manager I started to write 'FxM' which is currently on hold while I do more planning.
To be fair to everyone who put in time and effort writing plugins for the competition...
Before you vote, please try the latest versions of all the competition plugins. A lot of them have changed drastically since they were first submitted to the competition, fixing a lot of bugs in the process.
A lot of people spent a bunch of time writing these plugins, so please, at least do them the honor of seeing their work.
"You want to kiss the sky? Better learn how to kneel." - U2
Sig:
Barbeque is a noun. Not a verb.
Here's a few mirrors of the sites.
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Note- You still can't vote, it's just to get the plug-ins to evaluate... at least u can make an informed desicion before you vote
MIRRORS
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UK - http://uk.xmms.org/plugins.html
US (virginia)- http://us.xmms.org/plugins.html
US (los angeles)- http://ca.us.xmms.org/plugins.html
US (maryland)- http://md.us.xmms.org/plugins.html
Holland- http://nl.xmms.org/plugins.html
Germany- http://de.xmms.org/plugins.html