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Hong Kong LinuxWorld 2000
Jestrzcap writes "The Hong Kong Linuxworld 2000 expo kicked off yesterday More than 30 exhibitors showed up to strut their stuff and show the world what opensource can do for you. Keynote speaker, Jon Maddog Hall, kicked things off, and showed off his new book, "Red Hat Linux for Dummies". This article also highlights the giant Cobalt Qube2 servers. "
Isn't this the same story that's just a little further down the page? somebody screwed up.
http://e-commerce.com/Open-Source-Ron-Jeremy-Naked -and-Petrified.html
Hong Kong is unfortunately an uber-capitalistic territory. However, with a Linux World we can spread our socialistic GPL GNU/Linux and show the people the truth. Briang your portable computing devices, and your socialist pamphlets to help overthrow the capitalistic overlords. We can help these people become free, all it needs is a lot of socialists. Maybe we can get help from the socialist China?
Now Hemos is double posting and deleting stories.
He just posted another storied about the blind getting wired and then he deleted it once he realized that story had already been posted.
What is wrong with these people? How hard is to check the damn homepage or do a friggin search? They should be fired.
Sorry for being such a pain in the ass but dang it was fun!
tee-hee
thank you
wiping tear from cheek
This website stinks!
Too much green. Snotcolour.
Moderate me down, NOW!!!
perhaps the answer is you're a blithering idiot? yes, yes...that is the correct answer.
thank you.
The answer is: "YES PLEASE"
hey... incubus is coming to concert in the pittsburgh at metropol on feb 12... tickets are 22.50
This was written 30 or so years ago by G. Harry Stein under the title "The Handbook of model Rocketry."
Quite frankly rocket science is so basic that any idiot should be able to grasp its basics.
Make somthing squirt out of a capped tube with fins on it. Five year olds master water pressure rockets with diquieting ease.
> Posted by CmdrTaco on Monday January 17,
> @10:04AM from the places-to-be dept.
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> Jestrzcap writes "The Hong Kong Linuxworld
> 2000 expo kicked off yesterday.
What happened to background checks anyway... did they bounce?
A quick trip to www.linuxworld-asia.com could have told you that the conference ran from Thursday to Saturday (13th to 15th), ending in the wee hours of Sat morning US time.
Now, if this was simply an excercise in masochism on Mr. Taco's behalf, why not go all the way? It appears that there are video recordings of the sessions available online but only in one format, guess which one.
Make my day, cypherpunk, moderate me...
ok this is going to offend a lot of people, but what the heck...
hong kong is a finantial oriented..
lot of pooter users there, but most of them are afraid of change... and people there follow what everyone else do... so they wont switch to linux unless everyone would change from windows..
most of them (in general) dont even know what linux is..or even exists....
i know there was a chinese linux website for hongers, but was taken down ... the webmaster even said he's no longer going to update it because there arent enough people crazy and active enough ..
the son of the infamious lee ka shing - is going to invest and develop this "asian silicon valley"... so it's good to see events like this happening... (i've got a lot more to say... but my hands are too damn cold to type more... =) -- Sewagemaster "Your appearence is now what we call RESIDUAL SELF IMAGE... it's the mental projection of your digital self...." -- Morpheus
I went to this event. It was small, but the annoying thing was the lack of much that is genuinely Linux. Mostly it was computer company stands - I couldn't even find a Red Hat stand, and they are supposed to be preparing for the launch of a Chinese version. I looked at the HP presentation. A big NetServer rack, and a group presentation about Linux on HP. In a week or two that same NetServer will no doubt be wiped clean, reinstalled with W2K, and the same bunch will be ready by mid-February to tell us how we really must have A NetServer running W2K. Of the companies really throwing their lot in with Linux, SGI had a fairly big low key spread - read very dull - and IBM had a suprisingly small spread. The new IBM 1U server looks real cute, though.
HK people are enjoying pirate software and the best method for promoting Linux to them is selling Linuz. Don't tell them what OpenSource is and most people are just urging for free copies, or giving 100HKD for 5 copies of Linuz.
shouldn't this be rinux worrd?
To hell with the Microsoft tax. Its the Sanrio tax that really pisses me off in Hong Kong. Is there to be nothing sold in Hong Kong without that damned moggy on it
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/proc/cpuinfo says 250 BogoMIPS
A "bogomip" is not supposed to be a true measure of speed. It's used for internal timing.
That's why its called bogo, because its bogus.
Cobalt Qube. Blah. Here's the real beef: Hello, Kitty PC. Now get me one of those!
FWIW, the new RAQs are x86 based. Check out the press release.
I guess they get more bang per buck, development is a bit easier, and their customers may well be more comfortable running "normal" hardware.
Cobalt's products are cool - I just wish they were a bit cheaper...
For something similar, have a look at this product from rebel.com - they have some interesting bits of hardware generally.
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But on a server, things like good disk and network are more important than raw CPU speed. Well, I suppose it depends what you run, a heavily CGI-laden site like Slashdot needs lots of raw CPU as well.
-- Ed Avis ed@membled.com
Nope. Real men are too busy drinking beer and scoring with chicks to indulge in distro wars. (But we do use slackware, actually).
It doesn't even mean the same thing across different cores in the same family. On P6-core processors (PPro/P2/pre-Coppermine P3s) BogoMIPS happens to work out to about the same as the processor's clock speed. But that's not true on 386/486/Pentium, and likely not on the K6s and Athlons either. Throw in a totally different architecture (MIPS, Alpha, S/390 ;-) and it's a totally meaningless comparison.
Yeah, they would have adopted linux (after China), but somebody found out the feng shi was bad and had to destroy all copies of redhat. In the meantime, they aquired several linux companies like LinuxOne with an option on two more, and sold them to an overseas firm who sold them back 10 Linux firms like LinuxOne. Meanwhile money had been filtered through the switzerland accounts, and finally it came back that the originator of this had about 1 billion in cash and 13 companies that didn't exist.
She said it was small, around a hundred people, with just a few exhibitors and a good number of unmanned booths.
Seems like it wasn't promoted enough.
From the HKLUG's website, they are going to be charging for membership in the HKLUG. Seems like a bad idea to me.
We need someone to go over there and start some advocacy.
Just so you know, there already is a "Linux for Dummies" book out, and it has been out for a few years. This new book is just focused on Redhat. (even though the other one is still Redhat centric) I doubt that imac users would buy this book seeing as they do not own a PC, so I really don't see where you are coming from on that remark.
_joshua_
andyr wrote
I expect better from a RISC machine that hopes to challenge intel.
I believe they choose the MIPS chip because it ran cooler and didn't need a fan, thus reducing the cost and space. Given that the bottleneck is mainly in the bandwidth, the CPU is probably less of a concern than the disk-memory subsystem and the cache tuning parameters. It all comes down to getting smart technicans, I suspect that an old Unix expert could probably (given enough time) get more performance out of an out-dated box than a wet-behind-the-ears compsci grad with the latest gear. If we were to use a car analogy, the MHz would correspond to the revs/sec, the #functional units to the cylinders, and the memory the size of the gas tank. If someone merely bought over-sexed fan on wheels instead of a medium rev, high torque truck (not that I'm claiming the cobalt is a direct analogy) then it obviously won't pull its weight. To some engineers, a lot of excess heat usually indicates a high degree of inefficiency in the system so the lack of a fan may be a good indirect indication. Given that Cobalt doesn't seem to be worried about the hardware (I notice they're offering Intel components for their latest RaQ 3i) perhaps it is the precompiled software and management tools that is the compelling difference?
If Cobalt were smart, they'd be offering component upgrades to their existing customers.
LL
Wait, is this supposed to be a good thing? I realize that Linux should go more mainstream, but are we really ready right now for the readers of iMac for Dummies?
Coming soon...
Rocket Science for Dummies
I haven't yet recovered from discovering that there is a whole range of "MCSE for Dummies" books. Explain a lot though, doesn't it?
- Blah blah blah, missing scientist. Blah blah blah, atomic bomb. -
Free trials of Linux to come? Yummy!
Jon Maddog Hall, executive Director of Linux International. Halls speech, titled From Datacenter to Desktop, focused on applications built for Linux. Hall also held a signing ceremony for his latest book called Red Hat Linux for Dummies.
Wait, is this supposed to be a good thing? I realize that Linux should go more mainstream, but are we really ready right now for the readers of iMac for Dummies?
Local ISP, Internet Access HK Limited was offering a total office automation and Internet package running on Redhat Linux Server OS and bundled with a Compaq ProLiant 400 server. The package comes with Web server, network fax server, file server applications, and on-site technical support.
It's good that the Chinese get it, but why can't we? I wonder how many offices might switch over if an offer like this was available and highly publicized...
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Yes! That guy!
% uname -a
Linux xxxx 2.0.34 #1 Thu Feb 25 21:04:19 PST 1999 mips unknown
I am disappointed in the speed of these boxes - they are half the speed of my 400Mhz Pentium.
vserver % time sum up-1.1.9.iso
126.31user 19.81system 2:41.37elapsed
shakazulu % time sum up-1.1.9.iso
76.89user 3.94system 1:26.68elapsed
I expect better from a RISC machine that hopes to challenge intel.
Cheers, Andy!
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wizzy
Andy Rabagliati
real men use Debian
Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale,
A tale of a Hong Kong trip
That started from LinuxWorld
Aboard this open source ship.
The mate was mighty Maddog Hall,
The vendors brave and sure.
RaQ 3i and Qube2 were whored that day
For a free sourcin' tour, a free sourcin' tour.
The products were the best in class,
The eServer product was launched,
If not for StarOffice and Applixware
Office market would be lost, the office market would be lost.
The show was stocked with wares from many Linux shops
With SGI
and Compaq too,
IBM and HP,
The Sybase guys
With Gateway and LinuxTimes,
Here on LinuxWorld Isle.
So this is the thread of the Linux show,
We wish we all were there,
We'll have to make the best of things,
since we couldn't afford the fare.
SGI and Maddog too,
Have made the show so very cool,
Allowing folks to show their wares,
Despite Feng Shi hordin' shares.
No cost, no Bill and open sorce,
Not a single MS screen,
Like the "Red Hat for Dummies" read,
As mainstream as can be.
So join us here each show my freinds,
You're sure to get a smile,
Open source penetrates ole' Hong Kong
Here on LinuxWorld' Isle."