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Sci Fi Literature 101?

ohlaadee asks: "My niece (she's 13) wants to start reading science fiction. I do too. I gave us both Asimov's _The Foundation_ for Christmas. We'll read it together. I suppose we could spend the rest of our lives just reading Asimov, but I'm wondering what books and movies you folks would come up with? What does the /. recommended Science Fiction 101 list include?"

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  1. Off the top of my head ... by cygnusXone · · Score: 4

    Favorites that I find I can re-read, all on
    my SF "must read"

    Foundation - Azimov, already mentioned
    Dune - Frank Herbert

    (later parts of series less and less interesting
    for these)

    Neuromancer - William Gibson
    Protector, Tales of Known Space - Larry Niven
    Permutation City, Axiomatic - Greg Egan
    Farenheit 451 - Ray Bradbury
    Starship Troopers, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress -
    the Robert Heinlein I enjoy
    Downbelow Station - CJ Cherryh
    Consider Phlebas, Excession - Ian M Banks

    ... and then personal faves ...

    Icerigger, The Tar-Ayim Krang, Nor Crystal Tears -
    Allen Dean Foster
    Dragonflight, The Ship Who Sang, Crystal Singer -
    Anne Mcaffry - (notice how the first of each
    of her sequences is worthwhile?)

    --
    "I went to see the pool of wisdom but it was empty. Someone has drained the pool of wisdom." - Todd Jones
  2. I'm surprised by reptilian · · Score: 5
    No one's mentioned Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, by Douglas Adams, yet. I can't remember being a kid, so I'm not sure if a 13 year old could stomach british humor, but all the hitchhikers books are extremely entertaining, and, I would say, a must read.


    Man's unique agony as a species consists in his perpetual conflict between the desire to stand out and the need to blend in.

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  3. SF 101 by Tal+Cohen · · Score: 5

    Mainly classics; by date of publication. Not all are fit for 13-years old people.

    The links are to detailed reviews of the linked books.

    • Frankenstein / Shelley
    • 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea / Verne
    • The War of the Worlds / Wells
    • Brave New World / Huxley
    • 1984 / Orwell
    • I, Robot / Asimov
    • The Martian Chronicles / Bradbury
    • Foundation trilogy / Asimov
    • The Illustrated Man / Bradbury
    • City / Simak
    • Fahrenheit 451 / Bradbury
    • Childhood's End / Clarke
    • The Caves of Steel / Asimov
    • The Stars My Destination / Bester
    • Have Space Suit - Will Travel / Heinlein
    • A Canticle of Leibowitz / Miller
    • Stranger in a Strange Land / Heinlein
    • Dune / Herbert
    • Dangerous Visions / Ellison
    • Stand on Zanzibar / Brunner
    • Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep / Dick
    • 2001 / Clarke
    • The Left Hand of Darkness / Le Guin
    • Solaris / Lem
    • Ringworld / Niven
    • The Gods Themselves / Asimov
    • The Dispossesed / Le Guin
    • The Mote in God's Eye / Neven & Pournelle
    • The Cyberiad / Lem
    • The Best of Henry Kuttner / Kuttner
    • Neuromancer / Gibson
    • Ender's Game / Card
    --
    - Tal Cohen
  4. some for now, some for later by jdz · · Score: 5
    I've read many of the lists that others have posted, and while some of the books named are not books that I enjoyed, I have few quibbles with their inclusion in an overview of the genre (with the caveat that many of the works mentioned are more fantasy than SF). I have a more reservations about the idea of recommending an arbitrary set of those books to a thirteen-year-old. Some of the books contain material that may not be appropriate (torture, rape, violence, etc). Others may simply prove difficult for a thirteen year old.

    With that in mind, I'll mention a few that I think may be appropriate for a younger reader, and then mention a few that she may want to investigate as she gets older, or if she proves to be a precocious reader. I should note that some of these books have serious literary value, while others are genre "fluff" that I would include in any (more) complete overview of "science fiction".

    Books for now:
    Out of the Silent Planet - C.S. Lewis
    Crystal Singer - Anne McCaffrey
    To Ride Pegasus - Anne McCaffrey
    Shockwave Rider - John Brunner
    A Wrinkle in Time - Madeline L'Engle
    His Master's Voice - Stanislaw Lem
    Engine Summer - John Crowley
    Impossible Things - Connie Willis (short story collection)
    The Bloody Sun - Marion Zimmer Bradley
    Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K. Dick
    Battlefield Earth - L. Ron Hubbard
    Moonflash - Patricia McKillip
    1984 - George Orwell
    20,000 Leagues Under the Sea - Jules Verne
    The Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
    Farenheit 451 - Ray Bradbury
    Tiger, Tiger - Alfred Bester
    The Trial - Franz Kafka
    Lord of Light - Roger Zelazny
    Doorways in the Sand - Roger Zelazny
    The Postman - David Brin
    The Andromeda Strain - Michael Crichton
    Red Mars - Kim Stanley Robinson

    Books for later:
    Replay - Ken Grimwood (explicit sex)
    The Gap series - Stephen Donaldson (rape, torture, violence)
    To Say Nothing of the Dog - Connie Willis (plot complexity)
    Split Infinity - Piers Anthony (explicit sex)
    Glimmering - Elizabeth Hand (complexity)
    The Books of the New Sun - Gene Wolf (complexity)
    Beauty - Sheri Tepper (rape)
    Stand on Zanzibar - John Brunner (complexity)
    The Sheep Look Up - John Brunner (complexity)
    A Fire in the Sun - George Alec Effinger (sex, drugs)
    Stars in my Pocket Like Grains of Sand - Delaney (sex, complexity)
    Hyperion - Dan Simmons (sex, violence, complexity)

    Both lists are woefully incomplete, but I'm sure that within a few hours there will be hundreds more messages naming books it would have taken me hours to recall. Besides, after you and your daugher read a dozen or so books off the many lists that have been posted here, you'll have a better idea of what you like and what you don't, as well as a better idea of where to look.

    Good luck!

  5. My top picks, with primary themes: by TheDullBlade · · Score: 4

    Dune
    -study of aristocracy, religious engineering and the creation of a messiah, rejection of computers in favor of the development of human potential resulting in continued relevance of human traits, race memory (though now discredited, it is still a fascinating idea), consequences of reliance on performance-enhancing drugs, the potential failures of perfect "prediction" of the future, the dangers of breeding humans

    The Dosadi Experiment
    -an incredible system of adaptive law, development of societies under pressure, the dangers of psychological experiments, underlying nature of human interactions stripped of pretext and niceties, the nature of bureaucracy, the illusion of democracy, sideline on manipulation through addictions, interesting ideas about controlling runaway progress

    Starship Troopers
    -jump engines, powered armor, a military-based limited democracy, a tribute to the infantryman of past and future, and a simple biologically motivated clash of intelligent species

    The Moon is a Harsh Mistress
    -an anatomy of a revolution, the unexpected emergence of an AI, rational anarchism and the redeeming traits of criminals, realistic lunar colonization

    Red Mars, Green Mars, Blue Mars (3 books)
    -despite the naive politics and silly interpersonal plots, the random details create an incredibly rich and plausible potential future that is extremely relevant to our time

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  6. Resist censoring your suggestions. by TheDullBlade · · Score: 4

    A 13-year-old mind is mature enough to handle any reading material. In fact, the more time a person has to be exposed to wildly varied viewpoints, the better they will be able to deal with them. As for graphic sex, all it will do is teach them not to giggle at a younger age.

    Expose a 13-year-old to Marx and they'll think their way out of it before they do anything stupid. Restrict their access until they reach 18 and you might have a revolutionary on your hands.

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    /.
  7. Of children and adults by Belgand · · Score: 4

    I've noticed a number of references as to the age of the girl in question and why this book wouldn't be right for a 13 year-old or would be too complicated and above their level to comprehend. Think however, back to when you read most of these books for the first time. Most likely you were around her age if not younger and understood them perfectly. As for the books deemed inappropriate due to age we really ought not to determine what is or is not appropriate for a 13 year-old. Don't delude yourself into thinking that you never read that sort of thing at that age or that she wouldn't already know of them by now. The only thing we can have to gain by pretending otherwise is a delay in teaching her to be an adult and act like one in a mature and dignified manner. Give children and teenagers the ability to make their own decisions and you just might be surprised.

  8. Russel, Leinster, George O. Smith by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 4

    Eric Frank Russel's _Wasp_ - the one book I never lend anymore - and of which I have three copies after the one I DID lend was "lost" and I couldn't find it again for ten years. Also by Russel: _The Space Willies_, _And Then There Were None_

    Russel and Ian Flemming worked together in the British Department of Dirty Tricks during WW II. This is the think tank that designed the spy techniques and equipment, along with the same for escape from prison camps. (I think they were also responsible for the British Home Guard manual - the difinitive text on guerilla warfare in a modern occupied city.) After the war they both became fiction authors and used their experience in their stories. Flemming went straight to spy fiction, modeling "M" in the James Bond series after himself. Russel did Science Fiction, with a heavy socio-political bent. But some a few of his works draw directly on his war experience, _Wasp_ the most of all. It's his unimplemented plan to drop a saboteur into WW II Japan, recast into an interplanetary war (with the Japanese secret police only lightly disguised...)

    _And Then There Were None_ - one third of the collection _The Great Explosion_ - is the origin of MYOB and TANSTAAFL, and dear to the hearts of Pacifists and Anarchists everywhere. The three stories in the collection show how three different hypothetical cultures successfully resist an expansionist empire.

    _The Space Willies_ is a hilarious romp where a lone man wins an interstellar war between two multi-species empires. From a prison camp. By making a joke, and then refusing to admit it was a joke. (_Hogan's Heroes_ is a pale shadow.)

    Try to get the originally published versions of _The Space Willies_ and _Wasp_. Russel had (or was?) an excelent editor, and the modern reprints of the unedited manuscripts show it. The unedited _Wasp_ is only slightly awkward and still excelent, but _The Space Willies_ was edited down to a half-Ace-Double from a novel, and improved significantly by the tightening, pacing, chaff removal, and even the title change - from _Next of Kin_.

    Leinster does fine yarns with with moral and social as well as technical concepts playing key roles, and does them with a vocabulary that makes them accessable to a child (if occasionally annoying an adult). His "Med Ship" series in particular is an excelent introduction to "Golden Age" Science Fiction.

    Also from the Golden Age: George O. Smith. Read his _Venus Equilateral_ collection and you'll want to resurrect vacuum tube technology and hunt down the discoveries that got lost when it was abandoned for silicon. (Then go do a web search on "Farnsworth AND Fusion"... B-) ) Or try _Highways in Hiding_ / _The Space Plague_ for a marvelous superman/chase/conspiracy story set in a future where two Psi powers are commonplace and an accepted part of the background! (How do you do secrecy when about half the population are telepaths, and most of the other half clarivoyant? Poker is interesting... B-) )

    --
    Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
  9. Oh boy...here we go. by Tumbleweed · · Score: 4

    Robert A. Heinlein: Door Into Summer, Tunnel in the Sky, Starman Jones, Have Spacesuit Will Travel, Red Planet (Willis!), Space Cadet, Rocketship Galileo, Time for the Stars, The Star Beast, Between Planets, Citizen of the Galaxy, The Rolling Stones (fantastic bio of the band), Farnham's Freehold, Moon is a Harsh Mistress, Starship Troopers, Stranger in a Strange Land, Time Enough for Love. Oh, okay, ANYTHING by Heinlein. He arguably had the most influence on the SF genre of anyone, and for the better, too.

    Isaac Asimov: the 'Lucky Starr' books (very Heinlein-ish), I, Robot

    Arthur C. Clarke: Islands in the Sky (very Heinlein-ish), Childhood's End, City and the Stars, Rendezvous with Rama

    Raymond Z. Gallun - The Planetstrappers (rare but very good and VERY Heinlein-ish)

    James Blish - Welcome to Mars (same comments as above)

    Anne McAffrey - The Pern books (especially the Harper Hall trilogy, and 'White Dragon'), The Ship Who Sang (& sequels), To Ride Pegasus (& sequels), The Rowan (& sequels), Coelura

    Mercedes Lackey - Arrows of the Queen (& sequels), Magic's Pawn, Born to Run (& sequels with and without other authors), The Oathbound (I & II)

    Andre Norton - the 'Solar Queen' books

    James Schmitz - Witches of Karres (a total classic! hard to find), the Telzey Amberdon books

    Joan D. Vinge - Psion & Cat's Paw

    Robert Lynn Asprin - the 'Myth' books - very funny

    Piers Anthony - the Xanth books and the Apprentice Adept books

    Harry Harrison - the Stainless Steel Rat books, The Daleth Effect

    Joe Haldeman - The Forever War

    James White - the Sector General books

    F Paul Wilson - Healer

    EE "Doc" Smith - the Skylark series, the Lensman series, Subspace Explorer & Encounter, Spacehounds of IPC, the Vortex Blaster

    Edgar Rice Burroughs - the John Carter of Mars books, the Venus books

    Poul Anderson - the 'Flandry' books

    Joel Rosenberg - Guardians of the Flame series

    Douglas Adams - Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy & the next 2 books - skip the rest

    Robert Silverberg - Across a Billion Years

    Steven Brust - the Vlad Taltos books - great stuff

    Elizabeth Moon - the Deed of Paksenarrion books, also some good recent SF novels

    David Eddings - The Belgariad, the Malloreon, the Elenium, and anything related to any of these. Great characters.

    Marcia J. Bennett - if you can find anything by her like Shadow Singer, Beyond the Draak's Teeth,
    or Seeking the Dream Brother

    Ann Maxwell - the Fire Dancer books - hard to find but worth it

    Ray Bradbury - Fahrenheit 451

    Orson Scott Card - the Ender books

    Frederik Pohl - the Heechee books

    C. J. Cherryh - Merchanter's Luck

    L. Ron Hubbard - Battlefield Earth

    Roger Zelazny - the Amber books

    David Brin - The Practice Effect

    Aldous Huxley - Brave New World (mmmmm...soma)

    That's all I can think of right now. There's LOTS more...