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Garfinkel Blasts Linux in Favor of BSDs
howardjp writes "Computerworld is running an article by Simson Garfinkel. In it, Garfinkel effectively blasts Linux and the Linux development model in favor of the BSDs and their development model. It is nice to see the BSDs getting the respect and press they have deserved for so long."
. . . the one thing that annoys me about the BSD development model is how closed an open development model can be! Just to clarify, i had close friend of mine who was asked what he would work on after "Linux faded away" and one of the possibilities offered was BSD. He's one of the people who ported Linux to the PowerPC, and is in my opinon, one of the best programmers i have had the fortune to know (and i've known _many_). Continuing with my little story, he said he would _never_ work on any BSD because of their management problems. When i inquired as to what he meant, he said simply that many people (including himself) had submitted perfectly good bugfixes to the BSD teams that had simply been ignored. Now i'm not saying that every hoodlum who submits a patch should have it accepted, but you would think that vital security patches would at the very least be analyzed and garner a response. It seems to me that the BSD community has this "we're too good for you" mentality about anyone who isn't a part of the BSD team. i have respect for them as programmers who have made a lasting contribution to computer science, but in order for them to continue to survive, i think they had better change their attitude towards other development teams _real_ quick.
I use Linux and OpenBSD. As a matter of fact I just upgraded to OpenBSD 2.6. I don't think there's any need to blast Linux's dev style or what not, though. There's a need for both, and plenty of room for all.
Whats the point of yelling at eachother?
I don't think "The BSD developers have had different motivations" than Linux developers. We all just want software that doesn't suck, right?
http://www.openbsd.org/
Check out this cool OpenBSD T-shirt, a shirt any Linux user would be proud to wear.
I've been using OpenBSD for about half a year now, both 2.5 and the relatively new 2.6. I find it much faster than and linux dist. How many OS'es come pre-installed with crypto AND ssh? OpenBSD....and....thats it! The only features i would like to see implemented are support for mounting smb shares (namely SMBFS in the kernal) and SMP support.
I also have FreeBSD 3.4 on another machine and it runs quite well too. Maybe if i wanted every possible service running post-install and a lack of security as well as having the fun of applying the root exploit patch of the week...I would run RedHat. enough said
Chaos, Mayhem, and Destruction: Not
The writer has essentially compared *BSD and Linux and found BSD to be better is some aspects. The header was taken from the submitters post and not created by Roblimo. The posters phrasing though should be moderated down as -1 Flamebait.
I can throw myself at the ground, and miss.
by not slavishly suckling at the teat of Linus,
his development model and decisions, and the magical
GPL. He actually considered the BSDs on their technical
merits. On slashdot, that constitutes blasting.
That and the people who post stories don't appear
to give a fuck about how inaccurate the taglines
for the stories are.
How many times do we have to have this argument on slashdot/Usenet/lists/wherever... we all have the same objective, and we all have different tastes. If people want to use Linux, that's upto them, and likewise with BSD
Both options are better than an NT/closed-source solution... why can't we all just admit we're happy with what we are, and the OS is suited to what we do?
We'd all be far more productive if we stopped arguing... personally, I'm getting tired of the arguments on slashdot between BSD and Linux. If you don't know which is best for you already, use Redhat - it's simpler to install... if you are an admin of a multi-server, high-availability, high-performance site, then you should have the qualifications and resources to DO THE RESEARCH YOURSELF!!!!!
Can we all stop arguing now please?
Having read this article, I am having difficulty finding the actual text that "blasts" linux.
So did VA/Slashdot get bought out by Rupert Murdock and you never mentioned it?
the article claimed that netbsd is the only free unix to contain support for ipv6. i have seen ipv6 support in the 2.2.x linux kernel but haven't ever used it. is the linux implementation incomplete or broken, or is the article wrong?
No, he didn't "blast" Linux out of the water. All he did was try to avocate the BSDs for awareness. Of course he made mistakes, but there so obviouse there worthless to point out. Of all the good articles to post on Slashdot, Roblimo posted this one whose summery is a religious war (and is just 'hey guys, look at this too!'). Man, I wish someone other than Nik actually read any of the articles they slapped on slashdot. Ahh, DDNs, how I love you.
Ask him where he submitted it. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he posted it on the incorrect forum (or didn't send it to the maintainers). If he sends it to the right people, then it should be looked at, and most likely integrated. But just sending it to some random usenet forum that says 'x-bsd' just wont do.
"Open Source?" - Press any key to continue
Right here. Observe the left nipple closely. (If you're at work: Yes, there are nipples, so excercise caution).
Just because she's currently in prison in Brazil on charges of child molestation etc. doesn't mean BSD doesn't RULE!
NT server client licenses i suppose.
I've read the linked article twice, and I just can't see how anyone would consider it a "Blast" at Linux or the Linux development model. It's one thing to post pointers to controversial articles, but it's an entirely different thing to attempt to stir up flames with a misleading article header like this.
My respect for Roblimo, which generally has been pretty high, now has taken a serious downturn.
It is nice to see the BSDs getting the respect and press they have deserved for so long.
<RANT>What I am curious about is how Slashdot seems to secret away BSD articles in the BSD section that have equal merit as any Linux article that graces the main page. For example, the previous BSD-only articles announced 4.0-RC. At the same time, RedHat 6.2-beta was announced (within a day or so) and it graced the main page. Why wasn't 4.0-RC put up on the main page?
If Slashdot is "news for nerds" and "stuff that matters" shouldn't that news be weighted equally? Perhaps a "Linux" section is needed for articles about Linux that don't need to grace the main page. Maybe I should just ignore Slashdot and go read DDN instead. Ok, enough</RANT>
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What license fees was he refering to ?
This got marked as a troll?
That was an expressed opinion.
A troll is someone who writes something to make people upset, for the sake of it.
Who ever marked that as a troll must be one dumb sob.