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SlashNET Forum With Jamie Zawinski
SlashNET is hosting a forum with Jamie Zawinski of Netscape, Mozilla, and XEmacs fame. It will take place at 5:00 PM EST (22:00 GMT) on Feb. 26, which is this Saturday, in #forum. If you'd like to submit a question for jwz [?] early, you can do so at the questions page. With all the projects that he has touched, this looks to be an interesting and informative time.
THIS IS NOT A SLASHDOT INTERVIEW. DO NOT POST YOUR QUESTIONS IN THIS FORUM BECAUSE "JWZ" WILL NEVER SEE THEM. SEE THE LINK AT THE TOP FOR A PLACE TO POST THEM. THIS STORY WAS AN ANNOUNCEMENT OF AN IRC CHAT. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO POST YOUR DUMB QUESTIONS HERE. GOTTA NIP THIS THING IN THE BUD!
Actually, I think it was the other way around.
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Isn't XEmacs derived from Lucid Emacs, which is the version that JWZ worked on?
It all sounded like a big misunderstanding to me.
(Hence, "Why cooperation with RMS is impossible"
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What's your favorite hack, and which of your hacks are you the most proud of?
:) but it could use some work. (maybe I'll work on it someday)
Everyone knows about xdaliclock ("morphing before morphing was cool"), and lately xscreensaver has gotten pretty decent too... (surpassing xlock in the number of supported nifty screensavers) One of my favorites is probably dadadodo, ("the Katz generator", for me...
Also, how's the nightclub stuff going? A welcome break from the fast-paced world of netscape development and net.stardom?
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Realtime chat is better used for a social event, not a forum for learning something.
His high-profile badmouthing of the Mozilla project is the primary reason for all of the death knells we keep hearing. And I personally think that the real reason for the Emacs/Xemacs split was a JWZ/RMS ego battle.
Truly, this guy is not worth our attention.
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Not everyone has that font. Requiring them to get it is a hastle, and possibly impossible.
He wanted his page to look the same no matter what browser was used.
Sheesh, this guy just doesn't get it. If those particular browsers do something stupid, is that really a reason to cripple your web page?
What an ass. I'm not stuck in the 70s, I'm stuck in the 200x's and the fastest internet connection that I can get for less than $200 per month is a 56k modem. AWeb blows the doors off of Netscape, MSIE, and Lynx all combined, but I still get pissed that I have to load images sometimes just to read something.
So I load the images, and what do I find? The images are just text! He's taken text and turned it into pictures! This is the epitome of the flash-over-subtance shockwave-using give-me-a-WYSIWYG-HTML-editor anti-technology point-missing clueless [censored] [censored] web-novice. That this guy has been involved with the Netscape/Mozilla stuff, explains a lot. It explains why mainstream web browsers have remained virtually unchanged and unimproved since 1994: because people like this have been guiding them.
[Lots of other indignant stuff deleted. I can just barely resist flaming this fuckhead to hell and back.] *vent* *vent*
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ALT tags are an accessibility issue, not a "retro-browser-choice" thing, as he puts it in his source.
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Of course the /. story'll probably be corrected by the time I post this and it'll be moderated "redundant" but, hey, at least I tried to help my fellow slashdotters.
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I hate to nit pick but today is the 24th. Last Saturday was the 19th. I used to like to live in the past but paxil helped me =)
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Reading through the comments, I notice two types of comments. Those complaining about the wrong date, and those asking questions. This isn't Ask Slashdot! If you have a question, then follow the link and ask. I be there will be people saying in a few days, "Where the hell is the answers from JWZ?"
This wouldn't be "Ask Slashdot" anyway. Ask Slashdot is when people submit questions to slashdot, not the other way around.
You're thinking of "Interviews".
There's a difference.
Ciao
Well make sure to read the source for his explanation. You may have read it but for those who didn't bother:
<!-- Greetings, Lynx users. There is a reason this page doesn't use ALT tags on the images. The reason is that the bozos responsible for both MSIE and Netscape Confusicator 4.0 decided that they would display the ALT tags of images every time you move the mouse over them -- even if the images are loaded, and even if they are not links. The ALT attribute to the IMG tag is supposed to be used *instead of* the image, not *in addition to* the image.
This looks absolutely terrible, so I don't use ALT tags any more in self-defense.
If they wanted to implemented tooltips, they should have used the TITLE attribute to the A tag. That's in the HTML 1.2 spec and everything.
I had to decide between making this page look good for the vast majority of viewers, or making it be readable by the miniscule minority of you stuck in the 70s. Those of you in the retro contingent lost. Sorry.
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Try http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/02/10/zawin ski/index.html
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