Posted by
emmett
on from the it's-hot-it's-cool-it's-jazz dept.
lactose99 writes: "For all you musicians, head over to Jazzware and get Jazz++ v4.0. It's free, it's GPLed, and it looks like a nice improvement over v3.2. You can download versions for Linux (.RPM and .tar.gz), Windows, and the source code." You like music? You like MIDI? Go get this right now.
Has anybody gotten this to work?
by
Holger
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· Score: 4
I see a serious problem with the "free music software helps free music" point of view. Musicians are not usually the most computer literate people around, and Jazz is still kind of difficult to install (this is not the first version I tried to check out). OK, so they have a rpm now - guess what it does? It contains the single file/tmp/jazz/jazz-bin-4.0.0.tar.gz and installs from there, then deletes the file. rpm deinstallation is of course not possible that way.
Then it complains about ALSA missing - well, I am using OSS, but that should be supported too. No problem - just a quick look in the documentation (no man page, btw, just some html) to find out that there is a.cfg file with options that can neither be altered from the program nor from the command line. So I configure the program for OSS there. Then it looks for/dev/sequencer2 or/dev/music, neither of which are standard linux devices according to/dev/MAKEDEV. And when I simply link/dev/music to/dev/sequencer, it asks me if I want to use my AWE64 as Midi output (so it kinda works), but when I try to play the demo song jazz.mid, it keeps spitting out errors ("sndctl_tmr_tempo: Invalid argument ioctl time_base: Invalid argument ioctl speed: Invalid argument unknown sequencer status 08" and so on). I stopped here. I doubt the average musician would even have gotten so far without help.
So now I am asking for some - is anybody able to enlighten me what I might be doing wrong?
If music was GPLed, and you released it with all samples and scores etc. (including Licence Agreeement...), forcing other people to do the same if they used your samples, etc.
Just a thought - does this trend exist someplace?
My Minor $0.02. Domini.
Reasons for music on Linux
by
TuRRIcaNEd
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· Score: 4
Point No. 1: The generally agreed (stereotypical) musician is usually not very high up on the financial food chain (especially so if said musician is unsigned). OK, so the prices of Windows PC's (and usable Macs to a certain degree) is coming down. Unfortunately, the price of musical software on these platforms (At least musical software that is stable and is actually useful) is unacceptably high, bordering on extortionate. A good *free* (even as in beer) system would be a serious boon to those budding musicians who can't afford the overheads. With a free OS and a free package, the offer is seriously inviting. (This point is slightly negated by the fact that Jazz++ is also available for Windows, although Windows 9x's inherent instability could cause a problem, and most home musicians won't fork out for NT or 2k. The loss of DirectX plugins may be a downer on the Linux front, however)
Point No. 2 It is a documented fact that many computer freaks are avid followers of music too (Maybe the combination of form and artistry makes music appeal to them as much as programming). Many of these people (myself included) are not avid Microsoft fans, so the opportunity to have a usable music program on the OS of choice is a very cool idea.
The only worry is that RMS will inflict on us ever longer versions of the Free Software Song, with him on lead vocal;-)
-- - "How do we do it? Volume!" - The Bursar of Unseen University.
I see a serious problem with the "free music software helps free music" point of view. Musicians are not usually the most computer literate people around, and Jazz is still kind of difficult to install (this is not the first version I tried to check out). OK, so they have a rpm now - guess what it does? It contains the single file /tmp/jazz/jazz-bin-4.0.0.tar.gz and installs from there, then deletes the file. rpm deinstallation is of course not possible that way.
.cfg file with options that can neither be altered from the program nor from the command line. So I configure the program for OSS there. Then it looks for /dev/sequencer2 or /dev/music, neither of which are standard linux devices according to /dev/MAKEDEV. And when I simply link /dev/music to /dev/sequencer, it asks me if I want to use my AWE64 as Midi output (so it kinda works), but when I try to play the demo song jazz.mid, it keeps spitting out errors ("sndctl_tmr_tempo: Invalid argument ioctl time_base: Invalid argument ioctl speed: Invalid argument unknown sequencer status 08" and so on). I stopped here. I doubt the average musician would even have gotten so far without help.
Then it complains about ALSA missing - well, I am using OSS, but that should be supported too. No problem - just a quick look in the documentation (no man page, btw, just some html) to find out that there is a
So now I am asking for some - is anybody able to enlighten me what I might be doing wrong?
Wouldn't it be great if...
If music was GPLed, and you released it with all samples and scores etc. (including Licence Agreeement...), forcing other people to do the same if they used your samples, etc.
Just a thought - does this trend exist someplace?
My Minor $0.02.
Domini.
The generally agreed (stereotypical) musician is usually not very high up on the financial food chain (especially so if said musician is unsigned). OK, so the prices of Windows PC's (and usable Macs to a certain degree) is coming down. Unfortunately, the price of musical software on these platforms (At least musical software that is stable and is actually useful) is unacceptably high, bordering on extortionate. A good *free* (even as in beer) system would be a serious boon to those budding musicians who can't afford the overheads. With a free OS and a free package, the offer is seriously inviting. (This point is slightly negated by the fact that Jazz++ is also available for Windows, although Windows 9x's inherent instability could cause a problem, and most home musicians won't fork out for NT or 2k. The loss of DirectX plugins may be a downer on the Linux front, however)
Point No. 2
It is a documented fact that many computer freaks are avid followers of music too (Maybe the combination of form and artistry makes music appeal to them as much as programming). Many of these people (myself included) are not avid Microsoft fans, so the opportunity to have a usable music program on the OS of choice is a very cool idea.
The only worry is that RMS will inflict on us ever longer versions of the Free Software Song, with him on lead vocal ;-)
- "How do we do it? Volume!" - The Bursar of Unseen University.