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Boo No More

morn writes: "Boo.com, European 'flagship' e-commerce sportswear store (maker of the distinctive 'geek in sportswear' TV and cinema ads) and largest Internet retail funding ever in Europe has financially collapsed, causing 300 job losses, according to this story by BBC News. The boo.com site is still up, and there are hopes that the firm will be taken over by a more established company. Nevertheless, it begs the asking of this year's favourite question - is this the beginning of the ecommerce bubble bursting?"

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  1. This is not significant by seldolivaw · · Score: 4
    I admit that I, too, temporarily gave this event more significance than it really merits: an e-commerce company is collapsing! Help! The bubble is bursting! Get out now! Sell! Sell!

    But it's not like that. Boo was a badly mismanged site -- their launch was delayed by five months due to technical problems, and they spent way too much on marketing (surprise!).

    People have forgotten than 90% of Internet companies are supposed to fail; only 1 in 10 business startups of any kind last more than a few years. It's just that a whole load of Internet companies started up at the same time in the big, big boom last year and now the weaker ones are beginning to fail, but there are a lot of them. Investors got this idea that a Dot-Com was a sure investment, guaranteed to make them rich, and that's not true. Business sense, a solid business model and good management matter as much as they ever did. Amazon.Com is run by a businessman, not a geek, and that's usually the case for sucessful technology companies (e.g., um, Microsoft? Bill's more businessman than geek).

    Unfortunately, no one will listen and even really good e-commerce ventures are going to have a tough time getting VC in the next twelve months. Eventually, it'll level out and there will be no difference between getting VC for an online business and an offline one (in fact, since all business will be online in some way, there will be no difference at all).

  2. No, it's something else by JamesSharman · · Score: 4

    No, I don't think this is the start of the economic bubble bursting. This is a sign of an even more disconcerting issue for us Europeans. For the last couple of years our governments have been telling us the big Internet boom that has swept the states is going to happen over here (just a little later). This unfortunately is not entirely true, one of the great things the internet has done is sweep aside international barriers, you don't need one large book/sport ware/whatever vendor in each region for the internet, you just need one globally. The Internet bomb has not just been delayed in Europe it is not going to happen (to the same degree anyway). The US dominates the internet and change will be slow, factors like the metering of internet calls in most of Europe have slowed the take up speed and pushed us out of the critical window where we could take part in the 'boom' (UnMetered tariffs are appearing now but it is to little to late).

    1. Re:No, it's something else by Karmageddon · · Score: 4
      It is not as depressing as all that for Europe... or, at least, it's not more depressing than it was. It's not the US that is dominating the internet, or new technology. Freedom dominates the internet and freedom will keep dominating new technologies.

      The US offers the most freedom to its people -- yes, including the freedom to go broke and lay off and fire people, who then have the freedom to have no healthcare and not enough food. But with those social ills... ah, but not: with only the risk of those social ills comes the power of flexibility. It means that a free economy can quickly throw out the old and adopt the new.

      In the 80's, everybody talked about Japan and European unification. Now, everybody talks about China. Why did J and E "fail" to overthrow US economic dominance, and why will C? Because they still don't get it: economic freedom allows individuals to generate more technology and more wealth.

      But, there's nothing uniquely "US" about freedom -- other than historically, it's where we've seen the most experimentation with freedom. Look at the open and free software movement: lot's of non US participation, maybe even dominance. Why? Because it's an area that offers freedom without regard to where you come from.

  3. Boo was crap by hatless · · Score: 5

    Boo collapsed because it was an ill-conceived mess. Sure, it had lovely design. Sue, it had all sorts of interface bells and whistles. But it was a godawful e-commerce site.

    Its home page didn't show any product or say what it was. It popped up a window that also didn't show any product or say what it was. Instead, it asked what country you were in. This was idiotic, given that the largest pool of visitors were in the US, and doubly idiotic because the US was at the bottom of an alphabetized list of countries. Very egalitarian and politically astute, sure, but idiotic if your goal is to sell, especially given that on average you lose half of all visitors with each click. Why ask the country up front? Why not wait until late in the transaction? And if you have different warehouses for Europe and North America, then advertise two separate sites, stupid!

    Once you drilled down to a product through its lovely but tedious Flash menus, you had to return to the store entrance to pick another brand or type of product. In other words, to pick a shirt and then get a pair of jeans, you'd have to click "continue shopping", which would take you to the front of the store again, because menus don't follow you through the drilldown.

    And the Flash. Flash is nice. Flash is close enough to universal these days to be justifiable on a commerce site. But Boo's use of complex framesets, multiple windows and multiple Flash elements per screen makes computers with less than 128MB RAM cry.

    Multiple windows. Eek! A Boo shopping session is pretty crowded with all the windows it opens on a 1280x1024 display. Windows overlap on 1024x768. At least a third of all web users are running in 800x600 or 640x480. And those on bigger monitors probably have other windows open for other apps anyway. Ouch.

    Boo was theoretically right in some of its design decisions. The mix-and-match clothing previewer is a keeper, or will be someday, as are the ideas behind the fabric zoom and 360-degree views. But the way they did it, over the heads and over the hardware reality of potential customers, was pure idiocy. The only serious interface change they made over time was to get rid of the "clippy"-like virtual advisor (also in a separate window). Adn I sort of liked that element.

  4. My wife never heard of boo.com by Roblimo · · Score: 5

    My wife is the reason boo.com failed. She's got high-limit credit cards, she likes to buy clothes, she's amenable to mail-order and Internet buying, and she's online (professionally and recreationally) for up to 10 hours per day. If she wasn't boo.com's perfect potential customer, who was?

    But when I showed Debbie this Slashdot post, she said she'd never heard of boo.com and certainly hadn't ever bought anything from them.

    Upon reflection, she thought she *might* have checked out the site briefly when it first launched, but found it unusable (because of all the Java). and didn't think their clothing selection was very exciting or that their prices were anything special, so she forgot about it.

    Multiply Debbie by millions of other women online, and it should be obvious why the company failed.

    - Robin

  5. A cautionary tale of Web design by Ed+Avis · · Score: 5

    IIRC, the original boo.com site was overblown with too many images, JavaScript, probably Flash and lots of other junk. Nobody could use the site and within a few weeks they had to redo it as something simpler.

    Now the company has gone bankrupt. Could this be related to customers being driven away by their early, over-flashy Website?

    The tale of boo.com might be a useful weapon when trying to persuade your customers that JavaScript rollovers, MIDI files and Flash are not the last word in sophisticated Web design.

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  6. Things to come by sstrick · · Score: 4

    The reason this has such lasting ramifications is because very few of these sites make a profit. As a result they rely on venture capital to keep going. A major player such as boo (their brand recognition in Europe was excellent) collasping is bound to scare of investors.

    This could hurt alot of startups. Somehow boo went through $135m in one year. For more details check out ft.com they have a very good article on it.

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