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Development of OS Satellite Image Processing/Mapping

Ken Melero writes "ImageLinks, in collaboration with Federal Agencies and Florida Tech is developing Open Source software for satellite image processing and mapping. The Open Source Software Image Map (OSSIM) experiment will be hosted on RemoteSensing.org and will demonstrate the application of open source software development techniques in meeting government requirements. See the press release for more information. " Looks cool - GPL as the license.

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  1. Wow, it must be IR day on Slashdot. by tcd004 · · Score: 3
    Heres are some great consequences of high-res, remote satellite imaging links, (the results of which are only compounded by OS'ing the technology.)

    www.spaceimaging.com (the first ones to sell commercial high-res imagery, very cool site with sat photo dowonloads)

    A report by the Carnegie Endownment For Internatinal Peace
    on the effects of commercial High-res.
    Secrets for Sale

    An abstract is posted online with the full report available for download.

    tcd004 Here's my Microsoft Parody, where's yours.

  2. Hope for better satelite data format documentation by Brand+X · · Score: 3

    In several years of working in physics/programming with satellite tracking data, I found out just how bad the documentation and standards were for the various formats for data on and from satelites. The images were often fine, being compressed versions of standard formats, but what we'll be looking at here, it seems, would require additionally the exact positional data for the satellite body. Here's hoping the open source approach leads to better standards and documentation of data formats for time, position relative to the earth (and orientation), and so forth.

    From experience, it will more likely result in filters of resolutions with a tremendous range, both in granularity and depth, being interpolated and patched together. I'm not sure I believe that OS will get around the traditional bailing wire and duct tape aproach of engineers in the field...

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  3. Corporate Adaptation by Proteus · · Score: 3
    This is a very interesting use of the Open Source community. I applaud the effort.

    That said, I have to express a mixture of excitement and concern over what the success of this project could mean. On the one hand, it could mean that corporate culture will begin (slowly) to adapt to the Open Source model. On the other, it could mean that corporations will glean the hard work of Open Source developers and cash in, doing very little actual work themselves.

    In the first case, I am happy on two counts: changing corporate culture is difficult, and if the Open Source Movement succeeds, it will be a big "feather" in our collective hat; and, corporate adaptation means that more companies are likely to open hardware specs for Linux support, and software specs for cross-platform ports.

    In the second case, I have mixed feelings: having a corporate infrastructure to market and distribute Open Source works has the makings of a rather sound business model -- however, the less ethical companies out there (which, IMHO are a vast majority) may abuse the model so thoroughly that Open Source developers are alienated.

    However, I cannot decide whether Open Source would be hurt, or if developers would just move thier resources to the more ethical companies. The concern is that even if the latter, the "evil" orgs can still get the work -- possibly with even less effort.

    Anyone see a way around that mess?

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    1. Re:Corporate Adaptation by dR.fuZZo · · Score: 2

      If companies took Open Source and made it less open, then I doubt they'd get many developers. And if they took Open Source and exploited the free software without doing a lot of the development themselves, then, hey, what's wrong with that? Isn't that sort of what companies that distribute Linux do?

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    2. Re:Corporate Adaptation by Proteus · · Score: 3
      If companies took Open Source and made it less open, then I doubt they'd get many developers. And if they took Open Source and exploited the free software without doing a lot of the development themselves, then, hey, what's wrong with that? Isn't that sort of what companies that distribute Linux do?

      I'm not terribly concerned that anyone will make Open software less open (though the GPL has yet to be thoroughly tested in court), or that companies will make money selling support for free products like Linux distros do.

      My concern is that companies will start saying "hey, we have this idea, lets give it to the Open Source community, and they'll write it for us." Then they simply obfuscate the open source nature of the product and pack it up. Now, to geeks and programmers who keep tabs and *shock* read licenses, this probably would have little effect. But the mass populace won't know the difference. That's a Bad Thing because it really doesn't further the goals of Open Source -- the availability of Free Software to whomever wants it.

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  4. Government Funding... by istartedi · · Score: 2

    ...was impossible to trace by following the links. Assuming that the US government is involved, it is wrong.

    Think about it. Tax dollars come from the people and from corporations. That includes MS employees and other software companies. They are using tax dollars to fund software written under a license that effectively tends to nationalize an industry, without any consent from the people.

    This is just symptomatic of the whole leftist Clinton/Gore/Judge Jackson mentality that pervades this administration.

    Once again, I have no problem if private organizations want to collectivize themselves, but when my government gets involved, warning bells start to go off. Karma to burn lately, so mod all you want.

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    1. Re:Government Funding... by Azog · · Score: 2

      What?!?

      You have a problem with the government spending tax dollars on GPL'ed software? Tax dollars should be spent to get the most bang for the buck, and to do the best thing for the American people. The GPL seems like a great way to do that. Would you rather they spent the money on some proprietary software? Am I being trolled, here?

      This way, every person or corporation who pays taxes (or not) gets the source code! That's obviously a whole lot better than paying taxes and not getting the source code. Or worse, paying the taxes, having the development go over budget and over schedule, and not even getting usable software at all (a common government software spending pattern!)

      And what do you mean the GPL "effectively tends to nationalize an industry". You have some evidence for that?

      I mean, the Linux kernel, and Apache, and the GIMP, and SAMBA, and OpenSSH, and Gnome are written by developers all over the world. By "nationalize", you must mean something different from the natural meaning of the word.

      Can you explain what you meant, or are you just an anti-GPL troll?

      Torrey Hoffman (Azog)

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    2. Re:Government Funding... by radja · · Score: 2

      I can never stop laughing any time someone from the US calls politicians 'left', who would almost be called 'rightwing fundamentalists' in the Netherlands.

      //rdj

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  5. As usual, partially old news. by zorgon · · Score: 3

    The Image Processing Workbench (IPW) of UCSB has been open source and freely available for years, and recent ports include Linux. Very powerful collection of command line Unix utilities written in C that can be pipelined together. It's specifically designed to work with remote sensing data although it does not incorporate image projection (mapping) and navigation functions. There is still a need for freely available OS tools for mapping and navigation.

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    1. Re:As usual, partially old news. by maphew · · Score: 2

      Maybe old news for you, but this is the first I've heard of IPW (thanks for the link) and I try to keep an eye on these things. RS.org also hosts LIMP - Large Image Manipulation Project - which is not to be confused with LIMP - the Linux Montage Project. GRASS has already been mentioned, and there is also SPRING, TOPOG (almost but not quite Free Software) and OpenMap.

      Another good place in addition to remotesensing.org to keep an eye on Libre RS/GIS software development and data is freegis.org.

    2. Re:As usual, partially old news. by zorgon · · Score: 2
      You're welcome. Hope it helps! Old but good.

      My title/comment was inspired by grumpiness brought on by yet another "wow look what I discovered, isn't it shiny and new and gosh aren't we important" thing from /. posters. It's hard for them to remember sometimes that 90% of geek history occurred before they discovered the Web ... ;)
      cheers

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  6. GRASS by zorgon · · Score: 2

    Great, yes! I forgot about GRASS. I don't think about GIS much when thinking about remote sensing data, although some raster GISes do well with RS data sets and they do have mapping tools and so forth built in. I think the original posting is a red herring, there are a lot of relevant tools available already.

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  7. Re:Nice Try by panda · · Score: 2

    if, say, the open source world got together and built an openDoc office suite, then that would be worth talking about

    I don't guess you've heard of KOffice? Check out www.kde.org and bring your C++ skills. Hackers are needed. If you don't want to hack on it, then use it. Try it out and submit bug reports.

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  8. Re:1 inch, 1 cm, 1 mm resolution targets in the ne by Graymalkin · · Score: 2

    To get that sort of resolution you would need enormous sats in orbit. Lots of sats. I don't think your voyeuristic tendancies are worth that much money.

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  9. Re:Nice Try by panda · · Score: 2

    I know what OpenDoc is. I have the OpenDoc programmer's reference and the example book with CDs on my shelf. Since Apple basically stopped supporting it, it is basically dead. Since OS/2 is practically dead, OpenDoc is practically buried.

    BTW, KParts are intended to work like OpenDoc parts. May even be compatible, I'd have to check the docs again.

    Actually, all of KDE is heading that way with embeddable KParts. You really need to check it out.

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