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Cyrix III Benchmarked
electricmonk writes: "Tom's Hardware has just posted their review of the Cyrix III. They benchmarked it against the older Cyrix designs, and a Celeron, and the Celeron beat the crap out of all of them. They aren't meant for desktops, however, so it really isn't a valid comparison. But it is very overclockable, and runs so cool that it can work without a fan. Quake III on an Internet appliance, anyone?"
The grammar in the post to which you are replying is impeccable. Why didn't you understand it?
I strongly agree with your point.
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Yes, the early 6x86 ran hotter than Hades.. But that was 1996, and that was ancient history.. The prognosticators made fun of the p54c chips a year earlier, and they ran far cooler!! Look at the MII.. Cold as ice, stable as a promise of hell from a Catholic priest. Or the MediaGX; Cold, fast enough, and zero power.. You could pack the GX into a space half the sixe of the competition without sacrifice as well!!
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Rationalize your actions however you like. I'm not going to get into some grammar-flaming war with you (that would certainly be a first, no?), but I do feel the need to comment here. I may indeed have a sever inferiority complex which I place upon you, but that doesn't have anything to do with your actual grammar errors. If moderation breeds meta-moderation, cannot grammar trolling breed meta-grammar trolling? How can you claim to be "keeping /. grammar free for 3 years" when you are doing nothing to point out mistakes? I've noticed that a good number of the times you point out "mistakes," your corrections are as flawed as the original. Besides, how can anyone trust you for pointing out grammar mistakes when you know _no_ grammar yourself? I certainly do not want you proofing my papers.
:). Don't ever trust him to watch your back in Q III either; he's one of the worst players I've ever seen (at least he's honest and good spirited about it).
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I find little of interest on Slashdot, but it is quite an amusing place to hang around and read. Your posts are pretty funny and give me something to smile at on a pretty regular basis, so do not get me wrong. But...come on. "It's about an improved and grammatically pure Slashdot community." Where does this grammatical purity hide? I have yet to see it, and your posts are far (far, far, far) from grammatically pure.
Malda is a pretty cool guy - I talked to him pretty casually over a game of quake at the Boston Geek Pride Festival a couple of months back (the quake tournament which I should've won, but was defeated in the second to last round by a 13 year old we found in the crowd to set up our servers who cheated rather flagrantly). However, I'm not going to trust Rob with assigning us a grammar nazi
Hmm..this strayed quite a bit off-topic
You point out the mistakes other people make, and I'll point out yours. It's still a free Slashdot, no? If you really care about an "improved and gramatically pure Slashdot community," you wouldn't mind
BTW, my name is Jonathan Cousins. I live in New Orleans in the summer and spend the rest of my year at an engineering school in upstate New York. So, if you want to send the Grammar Youth after me, you know where to find me .
The big downside about considering a Duron CPU is the fact the motherboards that support Socket A tend to be really finicky when it comes to a decent power supply (you want at LEAST a 250 watt ATX 2.03-compliant unit).
I think I'll stay with a Socket 370-based motherboard until the motherboard manufacturers find a way to reduce the power consumption of Socket A-based motherboards.
Raymond in Mountain View, CA
MIPS is a notoriously unreliable measure, because different architectures do a different amount of work with a given number of instructions.
New metrics that would probably be useful:
These benchmarks are straightforward to compute, given an appropriate testing rig.
For those of you who didn't know, the Cyrix III was originally supposed to be based on the Joshua core. It was supposed to be a highly integrated chip. It had a two way superscaler core, and was very RISC-like. It was supposed to debut at 600+MHz at a cost of only about $60. Additionally, it was to have integrated Voodoo-2 level graphics and a memory bus capable of transferring 3.2GB/sec using multiple channels of RDRAM. For more info, you can look to issues of MaximumPC where Tom Halfhill wrote an article about he proc.
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
I remember when Cyrix was THE competition for Intel. AMD were the little suckers with slow chips, and Cyrix were the runners up that got swamped every time.
Now AMD is big, Intel is big too... and Cyrix is still lagging. But they can be good, too.
With a sufficient amoutn of funding, and a good market niche such as Internet appliances that will require low power, Cyrix might find a good fight. And they might be good competition for Transmeta in this market.
Cyrix 3's? Now I guess we know what the new Packard Bell's will be built around. Add in a Quantum Bigfoot hard drive, and I think you could officially refer to them as Diablo, Mephisto, and Baal...
The article here states explicitly that the Celeron pretty much "smoked" the Cyrix--and, probably not coincidentally, so does the page the benchmarks are posted on. Looking at the actual benchmarks, on the other hand, doesn't exactly tell the same story.
In fact, while the Celeron humiliated the Cyrix in graphic-intensive trials, the Cyrix really held its own or surpassed the Celeron's performance in the majority of those operations which did not involve a lot of pixel-crunching.
So, despite what the text of this Slashdot article says, the Cyrix may be a very useful tool, even if it won't make your frags look cooler.
Do Slashdot authors actually look at the pages they report??
"Beware he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he deems himself your master."
With the right motherboards, the Duron will be a real winner. Maybe stick a HighPoint chip on there, to circumvent Via's and AMD's disk transfer rates which are in the crapper...and give us some overclocking options...and you've got a great opportunity for overclocking heaven if you stick an Alpha on it!
Hopefully Soyo will make a decent Duron board - the 6BA+ IV, their flagship BX model, which my 500E is on, is the best board I've ever used. It's incredibly stable even running 1.5 times faster than normal (image here), and if they make a Duron board I can't wait to see how far people take these things.
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It will require a lot of marketing to build up Cyrixs' reputation though, and i would doubt that most consumers would even consider it as a serious brand.
Come on, grammar nazi! "They aren't worried about competing with one of their better processors, because they don't have any better processors." That comma DOES NOT belong there!
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"With performance ratings like what the Cyrix 3 got..." Like what the Cyrix 3 got? Please, please, please. That 'what' is horribly misused.
Get with it! You do not deserve your self-assigned title.
That last paragraph hurt my eyes!
"Yoda you talk like." What is that? Yoda uses correct grammar, save for some dangling participles. 'Yoda you talk like' is a travesty of grammar, if I can use the term so loosely.
Perhaps "Talk like Yoda you do" is the sentence you were looking for?
Those are the most disgusting charts I've ever seen:
.5 FPS? Are you kidding? (No, I didn't count exactly fifty pixels. So sue me.)
Tom can say what he will about RDRAM, and nVidia, and 3Dfx, and whatnot. I'll be amused, but I'm not going to get pissed.
These charts piss me off.
Half a frame per second lost from AGP Fast Writes in one game does not a half-chart spanning differential make.
Graphing two values against eachother is meaningless if the scale is not consistent from graph to graph, you just end up with "more" vs. "less" being visually amplified, without "perceptably equal" even being an option.
Fifty Pixels Of Hype over
Yours Truly,
Dan Kaminsky
DoxPara Research
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I want to see more charts like this. Nice.
Yours Truly,
Dan Kaminsky
DoxPara Research
http://www.doxpara.com
We need a new performance metric to sort out this mess. How about the number of MIPS per WATT?
Get a cyrix-III a Maxtor Hard drive and Win95 (OSR1). Add in 32Meg of RAM and make sure you bought the box from Packard Bell.
Your box gets it's very own darwin award!
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VIA did a good job with price and power consumption, but what, in terms of platform, is this useful for?
If I've got a socket 370 MoBo, I'm not going to put a Cyrix 3 in it.
I think if VIA wants to make a chip for low-end use, they should provide a low-end platform for it. Like an equally cheap MoBo, built in components that might run off 12v DC. Another with a TV tuner on MoBo. If they want to market these, I think they'll have to *make* a market for them.