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Pictures Of New Apple Cube?

Margin Walker writes "AppleInsider doesn't seem to be scared of Apple's legion of legal representation. They've posted photos of the G4 Cube and nifty new CRT and flat-screen displays." The site is pretty hosed, so if some folks could get some mirrors up, that'd be bitchin'. Update: 07/19 12:11 AM by CT : The Mac Junkie has mirrors of the pics, and claims that they are frauds along with some good arguments to back it up. Update: 07/19 01:27 PM by CT : Apple Legal shut both of them down with Cease & Desist orders. Mirrors are all over the place.

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  1. Re:Looks bogus to me by CrayDrygu · · Score: 5
    I don't think much of your company's business acumen if you waited until two days before your product ships before filing for trademarks and patents...

    I take it, then, that you've never seen the words "Patent Pending" stamped on a product? I see it all the time. Companies are greedy, and they want to start making money off their products as soon as possible. If that means releasing them before they've actually been issued the patent, then so be it.

    Shows up in the most unlikely places, sometimes, too. Last time I went to a concert (Summer Sanitarum Tour at the Foxboro Stadium in Foxboro, MA, FWIW), the tiles that were covering the football field had "patent pending" stamped on them, if I remember right.

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  2. The "Pics" are NOT Real, But MJ was Wrong about... by Sir_Winston · · Score: 4

    Yes, the pics are definitely computer-generated, but MacJunkie has a few things wrong. Point-by-point:

    > 1. In this form, the machine would be very much top-heavy

    Not necessarily--the transparent base could be solid plastic, in which case the case would be very, very stable (more so than a current G4 minitower).

    > 2. Look at the size of those air vents. You could drop a pencil through there,
    > or spill a cup of coffee

    Much about Apple's current crop of cases is aesthetic, not functional; there could be mesh and foam inside those huge vent louvers to protect from accidents like that, anyway.

    > 3. While in the photograph taken from a diagonal angle there are three screws
    > on the top of the machine, there are
    > only two in the head-on photo. Why?

    Because the third screw, the one in the middle, is shielded from view by the raised border of the vent cutout.

    > 4. There are no handles. Apple loves handles, and furthermore, anyone who expects to
    > get a good grip on a computer with plexiglass sides has got another thing coming.

    Those raised bars on the top of the case are handles which retract into the case when not in use, and can be pulled up into handles when needed. This was noted in the first articles about this alleged case design, so I wish the person who wrote this debunking article would do his homework.

    > 5. The front of the machine has at least a couple tell-tale Photoshop
    > fingerprints. First, look at the Apple logo in the second image. Does it look
    > a little smushed to you? It is. The artist had to use Photoshop's Distort tool
    > to get the image to be angled correctly, but this tool doesn't take 3D
    > measurements into consideration.

    This is complete BS. The logo in question looks distorted because it is being viewed at an angle, from above, to the side, and on the diagonal--a very complex angle. The distortion visible is in line with the angle of observation, with only a little deviation. I disagree that this is a Photoshop image, and here's why.

    It is definitely computer-generated, but most likely by a 3D design and rendering program, not by a 2D tool like Photoshop. The attention to detail in shading and angle and contour in these images is certainly doable in Photoshop, but at the cost of a huge amount of time.

    In contrast, I could create the same images in 3D Studio Max and similar programs in a fraction of the time required to do them in Photoshop, plus I'd have an interactive 3D model to move around easily and get as many 2D image captures from as I want. 3D Studio Max, I know, isn't available for Macs, but similar products are (not as good IMHO, though). In particular, the attention to details like very accurate lighting and shading points to a 3D app creating these images, not a 2D app like Photoshop; this guy's concluding remarks about a lighting source being out of place are BS, the images appear to have pretty accurate lighting and shading. Doing these images in Photoshop would be too much of a bother, especially when so many good 3D apps are widely available (even the dongle protection for 3D Studio Max has been broken, and it's food for the warez kiddies now).

    Plus, the pics on AppleInsider have been removed and replaced with images with a message about Apple's legal dept. making them take the pics down. This supports earlier claims, which were disputed, that Apple had done so on other sites hosting these pics. This indicates that there may be a grain of truth to these computer-generated images. My personal opinion is that the images are, indeed, authentic in that they come from Apple design mock ups, not necessarily of a design that will be used any time soon, but of a design that is or was being considered. My guess, unsupported by anything but Apple's stupid lawyermongering, is that these were taken from early 3D computer-generated designs from Apple's case-styling guys. But Apple is pissing me off with their lawyer-whoring bullshit; I was considering buying an Apple since I used to use them in college, but now they can fuck off. I hate ity when people try to stifle freedom of the press, important enough that the framers of the constitution put it first in the bill of rights.

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  3. Apple legal tells AI and TMJ to remove images by crayz · · Score: 5
    Apple legal has apparently contacted both AI and TMJ with a threat that they remove the images.

    Therefore, I've posted my own copy here: http://home.rochester.rr.com/crayz/

    BTW, this is what an Apple legal threat would look like:

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    From cpyrt@apple.com Fri Jul 7 20:56:43 2000
    Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 17:28:28 -0700
    From: Copyright Admin.
    To: Ryan Meader
    Subject: NOTICE OF INFRINGEMENT

    *Apple Confidential*
    -NOT FOR POSTING OR REDISTRIBUTION-

    Dear Ryan,

    Re: www.macosrumors.com

    It has been brought to our attention that you have posted an article on the above web site titled, 'Apple's "Cube" desktop Mac confirmed' (hereafter referred to as "the Article").

    By posting the Article, you are improperly disclosing Apple's trade secrets. Apple believes that the person(s) who disclosed the information in the Article to you violated their non-disclosure agreement with Apple. Consequently, Apple has never authorized the information to be disclosed or published and your continued display of the Article could result in your company being held for violating Apple's proprietary rights. Your continued dissemination and use of this information is in violation of Apple's statutory and other rights.

    We believe, in good faith, that the information posted is being used in a manner that is not authorized by Apple and that the information contained in this email is accurate. Therefore, Apple demands that you cease and desist from disseminating the Article posted at the referenced URL immediately, including any hyperlinks to other locations where the information or Article may be available from all web sites and servers under your control.

    Please immediately remove the Article and confirm in writing by Monday, July 10, 2000 that you have removed the Article from your web site. Apple reserves its right to seek immediate equitable and other relief, including damages claims, should you fail to remove this material.

    Thank your for your courtesy and immediate cooperation. I can be reached at (408) 974-9994 should you have any questions.

    Sincerely, Sue Runfola Apple Computer, Inc. Legal

    Sue Runfola Apple Legal Copyright Administration 1 Infinite Loop, MS: 38-I Cupertino, CA 95014

    Phone: (408) 974-9994 Email: copyright@apple.com Fax: (408) 974-5436

    THIS TRANSMISSION MAY BE PRIVILEGED AND MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION INTENDED ONLY FOR THE PERSON(S) NAMED ABOVE. ANY OTHER DISTRIBUTION, RE-TRANSMISSION, COPYING OR DISCLOSURE IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED. IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS TRANSMISSION IN ERROR, PLEASE NOTIFY ME IMMEDIATELY BY TELEPHONE OR RETURN E-MAIL, AND DELETE THIS FILE/MESSAGE FROM YOUR SYSTEM.

  4. More questions and a mirror by KFury · · Score: 4
    Looking at the cube picture, it appears that there are two ridges on the top to facilitate stacking. This presents two problems:
    • First, how can you get DVDs in or out of a stacked cube? This of course is assuming there's a DVD slot tucked near one of those plastic ridges.
    • Second, is this some sort of 'in-series' ventalation? With three stacked macs, the same air would chimney through three machines!

    Other points:
    • The power button (the 'third screw') would never be on the top of a machine.
    • The font used in the picture is a variant of Adobe Garamond, and is slightly shorter than Apple Garamond.
    • One of the ideals of the new Apple aesthetic is no hard lines, yet this has hard lines on thp and bottom.
    • A true Apple product would have the Apple logo on the sides as well.
    • It looks like a lucite office trash can turned upside down and apple-ified.

    I bet there will be an Apple Cube, and I bet it'll be released tomorrow. It's right in line with Fred's comments today that iMac sales are getting flat. I just think it'll look more like the earlier sketches with the contrary handles and front-faced design.

    BTW, I have a mirror for this pic and the 17" CRT, which is beautiful and I wish is real, but I fear isn't bulbous enough to be legit.


    Kevin Fox
  5. Looks bogus to me by gwernol · · Score: 4

    These sites (AppleInsider, MacOSRumors, MacInTouch etc.) have a really lousey track record of posting half-truths and downright lies. Their quality control is really poor.

    What's more, they can do real damage. I was involved in a product that Apple Insider leaked images of, two days before it was publically launched. As a result, we lost most trademark and patent rights outside the US. In most other countries, you cannot trademark and/or patent something that has already been released into the public domain.

    So when you wonder why companies like Apple don't like these kind of sites and often seem heavy-handed in dealing with them, remeber that leaks like this can cost a company substantial amounts of money.

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    1. Re:Looks bogus to me by Macdude · · Score: 5
      I was involved in a product that Apple Insider leaked images of, two days before it was publically launched. As a result, we lost most trademark and patent rights outside the US.

      I don't think much of your company's business acumen if you waited until two days before your product ships before filing for trademarks and patents...

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