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The Web And The Olympics

Anonymous Coward writes: "Here is a nice article about how the IOC (International Olympic Committee) is banning the Internet from the Sydney Games. Here is the link: http://www.cnn.com/2000/TECH/computing/08/15/olympic.ban.idg/index.html". This story came from the Industry Standard, but since on their site it's an unfriendly multi-page format, we'll link to CNN. Are the Olympics nothing more than eyeballs to be sold to the highest bidder? Very thoughtful article. (A mostly-unrelated aside: Don't use the e-mail kiosks at the 2002 Olympics.)

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  1. Regarding the Cringley article. by Th3+D0t · · Score: 3

    After the last article of his linked to from slashdot, where he explained his laughable theory that the purpose of carnivore was to "shut down the Internet," I wasn't expecting much from his this time. The first 3/4 of the article talked about S.W.A.T. teams, and how police don't need them, even though they are primarily used for apprehending suspects that they think may turn violent, and not blowing stuff up, as Cringley seems to think. Yeah, the S.W.A.T. team really helped take down those two Columbine killers! Fucking cowards. Anyways, in the final paragraph, he then "[blows] the lid off" a secret plan to steal the "passwords" (?) of the "business elite" via web kiosks at the Olympics. This guy is either nuts, or dumb.
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  2. Re:Not Watching Much Anyway by Rand+Race · · Score: 3
    "Cuz I like to see the events, not the two dozen "Life Stories" that take up 90% of the broadcast time."

    That is my second biggest gripe with NBC's so-called coverage, and it fits right into my biggest gripe. Why don't they ditch the 'she boldly overcame acne to become america's favorite scantily clad pre-pubescent gymnast!' crap and show some sports other than Gymnastics (female for the most part), Basketball (Don't tell me who's gonna win, just gimee the spread), and the shorter Field & Track and Swimming events. As a fan of Soccer and Fencing I have been hoping against hope that I might be able to find some coverage of these events online (soccer? yea right, no time for commercials or human interest), but once again my hopes are dashed in favor of the publics slightly disturbing fixations on jailbait gymnasts and lopsided basketball victories.

    Fuck NBC, Fuck the IOC, and fuck the Olympics in general.

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  3. As I recall... by G-Man · · Score: 4

    ...the whole 'amateur' thing was concocted up for the modern Olympics to ensure only wealthy folks could participate. A steel worker in Sheffield in the 1890s couldn't afford to seriously train for a sport and *not* get paid for it, while the Duke of Somewhereshire had plenty of leisure time on his hands. Winners in the ancient Olympic games received great material rewards, not just a medal and a laurel wreath.

    Really, the whole 'amateur' thing has been a farce for a long time. How exactly were Soviet athletes amateurs? In my book, if you don't have a full-time, non-sports related job, and all you do is train, and someone takes care of your food and housing, then your *job* is being an athlete and you are a professional. (You may be underpaid, but that is another issue.) I doubt many of the Red Army hockey players spent time walking point in Afghanistan.

    Lest anyone think I'm just digging on the Soviets, it's hardly better here. Carl Lewis or Michael Johnson don't go off to day jobs after their training sessions. Odds are that a track star went to college on a scholarship and hasn't seen a regular job since. Athletes get paid for appearances, for sponsorships, etc. -- the only thing they don't get paid for is the actual competition, and this is only a small portion of the money a pro athlete makes. Just ask Tiger Woods.

    Save for Team Handball and Curling, there really aren't any true amateurs in the Olympics anymore, and there haven't been for a long time.

  4. Chlorine == Bleach. by SvnLyrBrto · · Score: 3
    >Take two common things you probably have in your
    >laundry room - bleach and chlorine. Everyone >knows what mixing those does.

    Uh.... yeah. It gets your whites whiter. And mabye you use it in your swimming pool too.

    I think you meant to say *ammonia* and chlorine, which, when mixed together in strong enough concentrations, form a gaseous poison remarkably similar to WWI mustard gas.

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  5. Official Sydney2000 site not ADA/w3 Compliant by Cy+Guy · · Score: 5

    Last week ZDNet Australia ran a story noting complaints from the sight impaired community that the official site for the Games www.olympics.com failed to provide a significant amount of information formatted in ways that can be read by text only (and therefor text-to-speech enabled) browsers. Examples of non-text friendly data include "the sport index, which provides event schedule information for 36 Olympic sports" and the results of competitions, "Something which [a representative for the site] claims will cost AU$4 million and take 368 days to do," according to one of the complainants.

    This also means that the site is not meeting guidelines laid out by the WWW Consortium.

    The combination of not providing a site meeting the needs of all users, and then censoring what others can report from the Games, means a total blackout of Internet information for these users.

  6. International broadcasts. by Joao · · Score: 5

    The main problem I have with this is that any it makes it just about impossible for those of us who want to follow other countries' events here in the United States to do so. If NBC's broadcast is similar to the previous Olympics' broadcast, only the events where American athletes and teams compete AND are likely to win medals, will get any coverage. If web broadcasting was allowed, those of us who are foreigners living in this country should be able to follow our nations' events via webcasts from our national news and sports online sites. But without these webcasts, all we can do is read the results in the next day's papers.

  7. Not Watching Much Anyway by hughesma · · Score: 5

    Personally, I'm not going to be watching much of the Olympics. Why? Cuz I like to see the events, not the two dozen "Life Stories" that take up 90% of the broadcast time. Sure, it's great that Bob the Sprinter overcame but I wanna see him race. Not that I don't have feelings for the guy, but I seriously doubt said problem is on his mind when he's neck and neck with Sam the Speedy. These guys and gals aren't here because of commercials. They came here to do their best. TV on the other hand... Anyone remember that much hyped Greene vs Johnson?

    My personal off topic rant - I'm a distance runner. Have been for almost 16 years now so I do enjoy watching those races that aren't over in a matter of seconds. Unfortunetly, anything that takes more than 5 minutes to complete, the Networks don't see fit to broadcast. I want to see who wins the 10,000 or the Marathon. These are my idols and heroes. These are the people who don't have huge endorsement contracts. They work their 9-5 jobs, fit in time for training, and pull this all off with very little financial support from anyone else. But unless I go to a speciality site (www.runnersworld.com for instance), I can't find out if my idols managed to pull off their life dream. The Networks don't care.

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  8. If the IOC really wants to make money... by TopShelf · · Score: 4

    They would compartmentalize the Games into various sections (Track & Field, gymnastics, martial arts, etc) and auction off the broadcast rights seperately. By doing so they would be likely to get much higher overall revenue, and the Games would be covered much more completely and professionally. Just think of all the events that aren't going to be covered because there is an artificial limit on TV time.

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  9. terrorism? by Signal+11 · · Score: 3
    Terrorism is a joke. No, seriously - when was the last time you heard about a terrorist using his quad xeon box and e-commerce software to take over the world? Terrorists, by and far, use low-tech solutions. Bombs, death threats, taking hostages - none of these require web access, cell phones, or even computers.

    Even "biowarfare", the latest buzzword law enforcement is using to scare us (before it was "The Bomb" - which had school children crouching under their desks to avoid "The Bomb".. really useful, that). Let's think about it for a moment:

    There's alot of substances out there that can cause serious health problems. Many of them are in your house. Uncontrolled. This doesn't concern the FBI or law enforcement a bit. Take two common things you probably have in your laundry room - bleach and chlorine. Everyone knows what mixing those does. The FBI is woefully underpreparing for its latest "threat".

    So, I think I've managed to demonstrate reasonable doubt over who our government's targets are. Now, let's take all the recent legislation and put it together. You'll probably notice a pattern: it's all targetted at high-tech groups.. groups, like us. Computers can be used to "terrorize" people? Take down wall street? Crash planes? We've heard it all. Yet, despite all the hype, none of these things have happened. Most errors out there are due to human stupidity - but rather than blame themselves, many organizations choose to use the hype to create their own escape goat. Enter, "The Hacker". A mystical entity nobody can see that seems to have no motivations for anything, yet goes out on wonton destruction. The image falls apart under any scrutiny, yet most people are willing to just accept it - who cares, just gimme my SUV and big screen TV.

    Our government DOES have a target - it is the computer industry. They want to regulate it. By regulate, I mean control. They understand, as do we, that technological progress is the way the wealth of various countries are generated. I can't blame them for wanting to control it.. but I think it's misplaced. I recall the USSR had a similar method of control.. with disasterous results. The first step in that control, however, is to demonize the people and technology which will make it easy for people to swallow the lie that it is "for their protection".

    Beware of any legislator who claims something is necessary "for your protection". Be very, very wary.

  10. So what else is news? by softsign · · Score: 5
    The IOC has long made a mockery of the ideals it pretends to preach.

    For the 1992 Games in Barcelona, the IOC decreed that athletes from the breakaway nations of the former USSR were not in fact entitled to be recognized as such. They were forced to play for the "Commonwealth of Independent States". Just another throwback to the glorious days of Soviet domination and a slap in the face to athletes who were robbed of the opportunity to represent their native countries.

    Why was this permitted to happen? Because the IOC is the epitome of a greedy, self-serving, multinational corporation.

    For the link impaired, here is just a brief summary of the article:

    • NBC has paid $3 570 000 000 for rights to the Games through to 2008
    • Juan Antonio Samaranch
      • Joined the Youth Fascists in Spain during his teenage years
      • Later went on to become a member of Franco's rubber-stamp government
    • While the IOC's 106 members have only 7 women among their ranks, they do manage to find room for:
      • a former operative of Korea's brutal intelligence service
      • a onetime ally of Ugandan dictator Idi Amin
      • an Italian businessman who presided over medal rigging at the 1987 track and field world championships in Rome, and
      • a reputed arms dealer
    • the IOC is in no way accountable to the athletes or to national Olympic committees worldwide for how it disposes of the $2 billion in receipts it pulls in every four years

    These are the people who proclaim to represent the ideal of amateur sport: of fair play and of the innocence of honest competition.

    These back-stabbing, power-hungry bastards.

    Considering this, that the IOC is making another power grab and shutting out the Internet, is not surprising in the least.

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  11. A few observations... by ZoneGray · · Score: 4

    I've been involved in a bit of sports reporting, and this doesn't surprise me in the least.

    First of all, no matter what the sport is, video is video, and the rights to transmit it are sold, period. Doesn't matter how it's distributed, if you're not a TV licensee, you're not allowed to do video. Some sports allow extraneous video to news outlets, like locker-room press conferences and pre-gmae stuff. But once the event starts, only the licensed video is shot. The NFL has been allowing local sports reporters to tape segments on the sidelines during the games, but that's the only exception that comes to mind.

    Traditionally, the threshhold for getting media credentials was whether you had a publication or not. The cost of printing and distribution was enough of a barrier to separate the real reporters from the wannabes.

    But since the 'net has come to prominence, it's lowered those barriers so much that event officials are swamped with requests. And the way they usually deal iwth it is to simply refuse credentials to all online organizations. Indeed, I've seen situations where we had been credentialled for years, but once the 'net became a buzzword, we were shut out, or at least had to remind the organizers that we had been there all along.

    It also gets sticky when you realize that an online reporter can post reports before the event is over, something that print journalists couldn't do. Even a text report during the game blows their mind, since it treads on those valuable broadcast rights. One organizer offered us credentials with the provision that we would refrain from posting any reports until after midnight. When we said no thanks, they offered to sell us broadcast rights.

    Not to say that this is all wrong, either; no event organizer can afford to provide press facilities for every bozo with a web site, and the lines between broadcast and 'netcast are indeed quite blurry. It's just one of the curiosities of the way the 'net has changed things. By lowering the barriers to entry, it has increased the number of "journalists" to such an extent that nobody really knows which ones have a legitimate readership.

  12. It ain't just the Olympics! by TopShelf · · Score: 4

    On-line sports journalists have always had difficulty getting taken seriously by some organizations. The NCAA (at this year's Final Four) in particular has been less than supportive of this new medium for getting sports news and information out to a waiting audience. A nice summary of the issues involved can be found here

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