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World Record LEGO Train Layout in Seattle

The Dev writes "The Pacific Northwest LEGO train club is attempting to break the world record for the longest LEGO train layout. They are setting up in the Seattle center right now, so you if you are in the area you might want to check it out. There are of course some Pictures on Brickshelf and a live webcam at the PNLTC website. The original announcement is here on Lugnet"

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  1. Other methods of sending IP data... by _xeno_ · · Score: 2
    ...an IP-over-Lego-Train protocol...

    I believe you are thinking of RFC #1217, "Memo from the Consortium for Slow Commotion Research (CSCR)." From the RFC:

    The basic unit is the M1A1 tank. Each tank is labelled with the number 0 or 1 painted four feet high on the tank turret in yellow, day-glo luminescent paint.

    If you find that one to hard to use, you may wish to instead attempt to use RFC #1149 which has been updated by RFC #2549 to send IP information using little scrolls and swallows. (Actually, the bird type is unspecified and is left to the implementation.) Unfortunately, the latter types do not work under Linux implementations, since they have had troubles getting the penguins to fly.

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  2. Re:Hiku by Enoch+Root · · Score: 3
    1- It's Haiku, not Hiku.

    2- There's a lot more to Haiku poetry than a meter scheme. It's subtle, simple, and yet it transcends the words themselves.

    Sorry, but no cigar. A better haiku would have been:

    Tiny Lego train
    Where do you go today?
    Hello there Bill

  3. Re:MODERS: Why is it that people just love to by Enoch+Root · · Score: 2

    I know I'm gonna be modded down for this, but you're right!

  4. Re: Structural Integrity by unicorn · · Score: 2

    If you toss me an email, I'll forward some pics to anyone that asks, how's that?

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  5. Re:Legos by Brian+Kendig · · Score: 2
    A notice printed on the back page of Lego catalogs circa 1980. as quoted in the Lego FAQ at "http://www.multicon.de/fun/legofaq.html ".

    Dear Parents and Children

    The word LEGO® is a brand name and is very special to all of us in the LEGO Group Companies. We would sincerely like your help in keeping it special.

    Please always refer to our bricks as 'LEGO Bricks or Toys' and not 'LEGOS.' By doing so, you will be helping to protect and preserve a brand of which we are very proud and that stands for quality the world over. Thank you!

    Susan Williams
    Consumer Services

  6. Re: Structural Integrity by unicorn · · Score: 2

    Hopefully the offer is sufficiently buried in this thread, that I won't get slammed too badly.

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  7. webcam by British · · Score: 2

    They should find a way to have the webcam ON the train. Then you could get a perspective of the Lego minifgure conductor.

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  9. But... but... by jd · · Score: 4
    Isn't the record held by British Rail? I mean, the trains -look- like they're made of lego, -sound- like they're made of lego, and get smashed up just like lego.

    On the other hand, if they implemented an IP-over-Lego-Train protocol, and had the trains transfer packets between controlling computers, they'd have a really cool setup! (Trains that tell the controllers what to do! Just like in Real Life! :)

    It'd be cool if they provided open extensions, though. Can you imagine a decent train service in the US?

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  10. LEGO is a tool of Liberals and is harmful to Kids by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    It is no Secret that LEGO is an acronym stands for "Let's Expedite God's Obsolescence", an obvious call for Children everywhere to ignore their Traditional moral teachings and instead embrace the Liberal view of the world. By encouraging children to Create, liberals and atheists are trying to Trick children into believing that they have the power to create. Only God has the Power to create, as we know, but the Liberals want to brainwash our Children into their Godless viewpoint. To this end we must Ban LEGO and everything LEGO-related. Our Children must be brought up in a world where they are provided with a strong Moral Center. LEGO does not provide that.

  11. Next up on Slashdot... by cowboy+junkie · · Score: 3

    A club in Walla Walla tries to break the record for the longest conga line made up exclusively of Star Wars action figures...

    1. Re:Next up on Slashdot... by .sig · · Score: 2

      Be carefull what you say....
      You did mention star wars, so it might show up as a rumor tomorow.

      (Title for EII - The Congo Empire?)

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  12. Re:Legos by mattdm · · Score: 2
    No it's not. "Lego" is technically an adjective which has no plural. If you want to be pedantic, say "Lego bricks" or "Lego system". If you're not being pedantic, then it doesn't really matter what you say.

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  13. Re:Forget about the train by jayhawk88 · · Score: 3

    Now how about some real competition we all can get in on, building stuff out of AOL CD's.

    Because any device built entirely out of AOL CD's would eventually gain consciousness, grow powerful beyond imagine, and destroy us all. Don't believe me? It's in the Bible, somewhere near the back. Really.

  14. Not linear, tho by anticypher · · Score: 2

    When they said the longest layout, I assumed a straight shot going from Seattle to Miami or maybe just as far as Portland.

    But this track is in a large room. Sigh! It would be fun to go help them for a day and get to play with trains on such a fun layout :-)

    the AC

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  15. Info about Automation/Control of Lego Trains by tsangc · · Score: 5
    Hi folks,

    Finally something I can comment on with some degree of expertise! :)

    Someone mentioned Mindstorms control of the layout. First off, Lego 9V train systems run off of a single power source controlled by what appears to be a crude stepped power supply (the 4548 Regulator). DC is fed into the entire track, and the Train Motor pack picks up that DC and drives its wheels. You can put as many packs as you like on the same track, but they'll all go forward and backwards at the same time because the entire track is electrified.

    A Mindstorms RCX 1.0 could be used to power up these tracks in place of the 4548 and execute control on one of its motor ports. The other two ports could be used to drive cranes, scenery, gates etc or another isolated track system. That's kinda boring though.

    The first option is to use what's called cab/block control. Fans of model trains (HO etc) will recognize this as powering on sections of track from a cab, or one power supply/regulator. So any given section of track could be fed separately by Cab A or Cab B, effectively meaning two motor packs are independently. As a train approachs a section of track, you power it up with the given Cab you are controlling, and unpower the section you're coming off of. But this means only one motor pack can be travelling within that section.

    If you wanted to use Mindstorms to automate here, there's probably some cool application of using one motor to do the switching of block sections, and one output to power the track.

    Another option is to isolate the motor pack from the track and power it solely using an onboard RCX. This has been tried by Matthew Bates and others. However, the draw of the motor pack soon drains the 1.0/1.5 RCX's six AA's. This would be one way to have a "ghost train" drive by itself without any connection to the 4548 powered track. You need to hack the motor to remove the pickups from the metal wheels.

    A third, and much more elegant option is inband signalling, or DCC . Model train fans have long enjoyed the NMRA DCC (Digital Cab Control) standard, which sends a coded pulsewidth modulation signal along a powered common track. DCC motorpacks pick up power and pick up the control signal. When they get a command intended for itself, it powers the wheels. In effect, the track becomes a common bus where power and signal come from but the operation of the motors is dependent on the commands issued in the signal. What's also cool is that switches, scenery, etc can be latched into the track bus and controlled with automation or remotely.

    Attempts have been made to put DCC into Lego trains-some experiments to isolate the track pickups/motors, then solder in a DCC decoder/controller into the pack have been successful. However, problems with voltage (9V vs normal 12V model train power) have hampered this. The cost is also hard to deal with-you're looking at least $400USD, when most people have tons of spare 4548's from trainsets.

    There's also a lot of other cool stuff you can do with Mindstorms-using the IR, you can have a proximity to set something off (like gates on a road) and play a warning bell when a train nears. It's a $110USD track crossing, but... :)

    --Calum

  16. Re:Legos by mattdm · · Score: 2
    This statement is still around today, in the Lego Company's Fair Play document.


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  17. Re:AOL CD's R Kewl by generic-man · · Score: 2

    Actually, Slashdot had an article about a bunch of guys who videotaped doing just that. They used "cheesy MS-DOS software," not AOL CD's.

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  18. Forget about the train by Hairy_Potter · · Score: 3

    Look at the amazingly detailed model of the Space Needle they made.

    Wow!!!!

    1. Re:Forget about the train by ackthpt · · Score: 3

      Look at the amazingly detailed model of the Space Needle they made.

      Yeah, impressive...

      Now how about some real competition we all can get in on, building stuff out of AOL CD's.

      Vote Naked 2000

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  19. Re: Structural Integrity by unicorn · · Score: 2

    A friend of mine is nearing the finish line on building a desk for an executive of a company, oddly enough located in the Seattle area. The whole bloody thing is lego's. He's even got nice touches like a hole in the top, for passing cords through, with a movable cover. It's pretty insane. Apparently fairly stable tho (the desk, not the artist or the patron).

    Pic's will be forthcoming, once he figures out how to avoid the /. effect.

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  20. Creative Juices Flowing...must design...can't stop by Mtgman · · Score: 4

    arghhhhh, stop the juices... *gasp* ok, ok, I give in. Warning, incredibly useless creative stuff follows.

    For some reason I looked back through the archive of Lego topics on /. and saw the post about bulk ordering. There was a comment about a Lego machine gun which fired 2*4 bricks. I looked at it and saw that it used rubber bands and a hammer mechanism and some kind of hand crank. Suddenly the inspiration hit me. I'll redesign the thing! I'll motorize it and use a pneumatic plunger as a hammer to fire the bricks!

    Basic idea. Put a motor on the plunger which charges a compressed air tank so it charges continually. Have two lines running from the tank to the firing plunger controlled through a SPDT switch, when air is put in at the bottom of the firing plunger, it shoots out and knocks the brick down the barrel, when I throw it the other direction, it will allow the compressed air to flow into the upper input on the firing plunger and retract it, allowing another brick to fall into the firing chamber from the clip. And I can even build the switch into the housing so it looks like a trigger.

    The only real problem I see is getting the air chamber compressed to the point where there is a decent velocity imparted to the brick when the plunger strikes it. Those motors don't have near the amount of power the old Robotix building set motors did. I'll have to build gear ratios to allow the mechanism to push the compressing plunger down once there is a fair amount of compressed air in the tank already. Of course my upper limit is the working pressure in the rubber lines, I can make the gear ratio something ungodly and put tons and tons of pressure into the chamber, it may take forever to re-pressurize after firing, but that's the only way I can see to get decent velocity out of the firing plunger.

    Now I'm going home and build this stupid thing, my kids will love it. I'll post the design when I get it completed.

    Steven

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