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VOS Patents on Virtualizing OSs?

Erik Poupaert writes "I've been following VMWare and plex86 (used to be freemware) for a while now, because I think that virtualization may be a solution to quite a number of problems. It basically allows you to run several operating systems concurrently. IBM uses this approach too, to run a large number of Linux instances on their mainframes. While you can leave the task of managing devices and device drivers to the host operating system, guest operating systems can supply you with the ideosyncracies of their particular versions to run the applications that expect them. Since VMWare is not free, as in free speech, I thought that plex86 would become the lead open-source project in the field. Now there seems to be a new player, that I never heard of before, called VOS, who claims the whole field to themselves, and have filed patents to obtain a monopoly on the entire discpline. Have they got any chance in succeeding? Or do you think that the patent office would not grant such patent?"

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  1. Did you look at the whitepapers? by Ralph · · Score: 5
    Their product won't be anything like VMware or plex86, they are building a BIOS-Enhancement.

    From their Homepage:

    Version 1: Flash Vos? virtualizes the disk device only. Thus, a single disk device can be partitioned into multiple virtual disks, with a separate OS installed in each virtual disk. Each installed OS is oblivious to the others, and Flash Vos? Super O/S resides in the BIOS, above the OS level. Only one OS at a time can actually run on the computer. To switch OS's, the user must exit the currently running OS, change the active partition of the disk using Flash Vos? Super O/S, and reboot the new OS. This method of switching OS's may be termed a "cold swap".

    This looks like a BIOS-Bootmanager, it just activates the partition the OS you're interested in resides on, then let's you boot from that partition. Magic indeed.

    Version 2: Flash Vos? Super O/S can checkpoint the active state of the current OS, allowing a rapid changeover ("hot swap") to another OS without halting and rebooting. The active state of the current OS is saved on disk, and the new OS is resumed in the exact state in which it was last saved.

    Aah, a BIOS based bootmanager with APM - The state of your work is saved to disk, then you reboot.

    Version 3: Flash Vos? Super O/S virtualizes the main memory and I/O resources, allowing multiple OS images and applications to reside in separate portions of the main memory. This means that the user can instantly switch to another active OS, via Flash Vos? Super O/S.

    Okay, that looks like a VMware done in hardware. Each OS is given a slice of the available RAM in which it can reside and run. You can switch between different Virtual-Machines. Okay, ther is no emulation layer in here, as all OSes are running on the actual hardware. When switching OSes, the OS you're switching from has to release all Hardware - that seems to be interesting. But that is "Phase III", so I wouldn't hold my breath.

    Version 4: Flash Vos? Super O/S fully virtualizes, multiplexes, and schedules all physical resources, allowing concurrent execution of multiple OS's and their applications, including communication and shared storage between OS's.

    Can't wait for that one - does anyone need a nice bridge? I own one I could sell :)

    Ralph

  2. Interesting contest idea by nagora · · Score: 5
    The story's a wind-up but it gave me an idea.

    How about someone starts a competition to come up with something the USPO wouldn't allow. The funnier the better. If the word got out to the mainstream media as a filler item, it might even make a useful point to the masses and their masters on The Hill.

    "In other news, a Computer Firm is offering $10,000 of hardware to anyone who can come up with an idea that the Patent Office would not pass. A spokesperson said `It's going to be tough but there must be SOMETHING they won't pass'"

    Of course, we'd have to have a prize worth noting, so it would need some rich sponsor with an interest in the topic (Hello, RedHat; VA Linux?).

    Rational debate isn't working with the PO, so maybe it's time to make fun of them in public.

    TWW

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  3. Prior Art by tjwhaynes · · Score: 4

    When faced with a set of patents like this, you have to hope that there is an 800lb gorilla out there who might take exception. Given that IBM's S/390 machines are just about as good as you can get in Virtual Machines either through VMs or LPIs, anything which seriously treads on the toes of IBMs patents in this field is likely to get short shrift in the legal arena. That said, this is already a heavily patented area - a quick search of the patent database pulls up 245 patents on this issue. Which is pretty scary given that these patents, as with so many patent applications, aim to be as broad as possible in their presentation.

    So much for propelling innovation forward...

    Cheers,

    Toby Haynes

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  4. Hoax Research by Luminous · · Score: 4
    I've done similar searches for Flash VOS and FlashVOS through all the tech news services I normally read, Google, Alta-Vista, and Yahoo! and came up with nothing.

    A link: search on Alta-Vista turns up Pearl 9 Design which lists Flash VOS as a client. Pearl 9 Design has a mission statement that states, "Endeavor to bear standards beyond the ordinary." And looking at their site and the FlashVOS site, their concept of ordinary must be really low.

    Secondly, the other clients Pearl 9 List, don't exist (or at least the links don't work). Looking at who FlashVOS lists as business partners and the list on Pearl 9 clients...I see a large amount of overlap.

    Seeing that this looks like a big ol' hoax, and the fact that they are taking credit card orders, I suspect something malicious. From the broken links, the lack of anything to download, the lack of a user guide, the lack of screenshots, one can oly conclude that this is a pure vaporware site, or something criminal. I've written to the President of Flash VOS to have him contact Slashdot to verify his company's product (which is selling for just $30!).

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  5. A glance at the patents by DarkMan · · Score: 4
    Hmm. Well, first of, they only give the names of the patents, so it;s very difficult to comment fully on the content (as name of a patent does not nessecerilly mean much [it's ment to, but that's another point]).

    However, here's the list of the patents they claim to have filed. So, if they are overbroad, they may be caught by the patent offic and not be granted [0].

    • Flash Vos Super O/S- Virtual Flash Based Operating System


    • The flash based part here I think is critical. Rembeber that patents are very specific. A flip down mouthpeice on a phone is not the same as a flip up ear piece. Thus, this seems to restrict it to using flash only. Precisly what innovation it has (other than standard viruliasation and journalling) I'm not certain of, but I don't belive that this will be a problem.

    • System Virtualization and Virtual Table of Contents


    • Um, lost on the techincal bits of virtualisation on this one. It sounds fairly over broad.

    • Restrictive Partitioning of Secondary Storage Devices (SCSI and IDE)


    • Not certain what they mean by restrictive partioning, as apposed to 'ordinary' partioning. Google is confused on it too.

    • Super O/S Graphic User Interface
    • Super O/S Remote OS Load and Set up


    • These say they are OS specific. Shouldn't be a problem.


    [0] Yeah, right.