Red Hat 7.0 Coming On Monday

the_quark writes: "According to this ZDNet story, RedHat will be rolling out a subscription update service with 7.0, which will be available by FTP on Monday." They're also announcing the "Red Hat Network" which essentially adds something like Debian's apt-get function that I've been using for a couple years now *grin*. BTW, has anyone played with gnome-apt? Not bad.

Comments

Re:wait a sec!

[buysse]

At least the temporary ATAPI drivers for the Win2000 install have DMA enabled; Linux always uses PIO mode during the install (unless you hack the install disk with the IDE driver module for your chipset, maybe).

There are some damned good reasons for this -- some drives with some IDE controllers, mostly older controllers, will destroy data if you enable DMA. There are very good reasons to not enable DMA. I've learned about them through experience, with a hacked-up slackware install long ago, but some of those buggy controllers are still around.

OK, now I'll just anticipate your next response: don't enable it on those controllers. OK, what about buggy drives (I believe that Maxtor has a few around). How about bugs that only occur with one combination of a controller and drive? Or a specific controller, a specific master drive, and a specific slave? All of these conditions do exist.

</rant>

Re:I can't believe it...

[jfunk]

I will never ever pay any penny for Linux software. PERIOD!

Wow, now that's a way to support Linux developers and those companies that work very hard to deliver a nice set of packages to you. Download it, and never pay for it. I use SuSE, which is delightfully easy to install over ftp for free, with tons of packages, etc. I buy the boxed versions. A cheap-ass such as yourself may scream "WHY?" I simply want SuSE to exist and think they deserve the money I give them. The manual rocks, too. Cheap != Intelligent I was never "fooled" by Red Hat and I doubt other Slashdotters were. Don't wave around the fact that's it's free as if you're uncovering a great conspiracy. We're totally aware, we just think you're cheap.

Good lord! Someone slap those people. PLEASE!

[dbarclay10]

Red Hat Inc. next week will announce a bold new concept in the provision of its Linux software to users.

Bold new concept? Don't get me wrong - I love Red Hat and buy every .1 and .2 release, and I hope they're successful, but I *really* wish ZD Net wasn't so bloody stupid. No other way to put it. Most of the stuff I read there is drivel. Ugh, it bothers me so much when someone starts an argument by saying, "But on ZD Net I read that ..." Absolutely infuriating. So when they say that Red Hat's new subscription service is a "bold new concept", I can't help but be offended. I use Red Hat exclusively, but I wish they'd step up and tell these people not to write things that are blatant lies. How long has the "bold new concept" been used for Debian's distribution? Much longer than Red Hat Networks, which has been around for ... oh, wait, it's coming this Monday, so it isn't even here yet.

Dave
'Round the firewall,
Out the modem,
Through the router,
Down the wire,

Storm Package Manager

[Doviende]

BTW has anyone played with gnome-apt?

hey taco! haven't you tried the Storm Package Manager? it's got all the features of apt, in a nice GUI interface. from what i've heard, it does more then gnome-apt, and it'll be included in Woody some time soon.

you can get it right now, along with other nifty additions like the Storm Adminstration System, from the stormix ftp site.

Or, add the following line to your /etc/apt/sources.list file and do an "apt-get update; apt-get install stormpkg":

deb http://ftp.stormix.com/storm hail main contrib

blatant plug: try out the new Storm Linux distribution (called Hail) that just got released, based on the latest debian potato. I wrote part of the ftp install :)

-Doviende

"The value of a man resides in what he gives,
and not in what he is capable of receiving."

Re:Subscription

[UVABlows]

Ok, this is a dialogue between you and your boss, as you try to convince him that a webserver running linux would be better than NT. He is a long time windows user and redmond believer.

Boss: "So you're telling me that open-source practices lead to more secure software because security holes are spotted quicky and once a hole is found, it is patched up in a new version of the software... How do you know when a new version gets released?"

You: "Well, this distribution of linux called Redhat has a utility called up2date that you can run everyday and it will check for new packages"

Boss: "What if you're on vacation for two weeks, and there are critical software updates, how will we know about them?"

Which is a better response, a) or b)?

a) "Well, for a small fee, we can have Redhat alert us by e-mail whenever a new package is released"

b) "Uhh, hmm, yeaahhh... Linux good. Microsoft Bad"

Or how about this one?

Boss: "Hmmm, well where do we download the new software from?"

You: "Many universities and other organizations have set up mirror sites across the country"

Boss: "Universities, huh? There doesn't seem to be anyway that to guarantee that they will always be up, and fast?. How do you know that their download sites won't be full?"

a) "Well, once again, for a small fee, we can have guaranteed access to redhat's fast, priority servers, without ever having to worry about those things."

b) "Hmmm... Good point. Well, universities are reliable, they don't even take race as a factor in admission!"

It looks to me like Mr. Suit would be more likely to take your proposal seriously if you answered a) to both of his questions. They are looking for the "reliable" solution, even if they have to pay for it.

I don't even use Redhat, I just think they have a pretty good idea

Cheers