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Mitnick Supports A Federal DNA Database

Mike_K writes: "According to this interview, Mitnick supports the idea of creating a federal DNA database. He says that today's technology makes identity theft really easy, and we need a way to make sure you are who you say you are. A summary of the interview can be found here." That's not really the central point of the interview, but it is an intriguing one. Think what you will of Mitnick, his court-imposed computer deprivation hasn't stopped him from peering and poking at the technological world.

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  1. Consider the Disadvantages First by rice_burners_suck · · Score: 5

    IMO, the government's methods of record keeping are what caused identity theft to become possible in the first place.

    Identity theft is the process of obtaining key information about a person, such as (in the US) their social security number, driver license number, date of birth, etc., and then obtaining bank accounts, credit cards, etc. using that information. Ask yourself why knowing someone's SSN makes it possible to get credit cards in their name.

    If you live in the US, how often are you asked for your social security number? And how often is it requested by a non-government agency? As an example, I recently had an eye exam. They requested my SSN and driver license number. (I gave them neither.) Why do they think its their business to ask for that information? Social security is for retirement (and taxes). The use of social security numbers by government agencies or private companies is not required or forbidden by law. Citizens of the US are not even required to have a SSN. These days, however, it has become a personal identification number. It is now used in public schools and universities as a student number. Banks require it to open accounts or issue credit cards. Ask yourself if any why this is wrong.

    Government DNA records keeping may be extremely convenient. It's easy to think of the advantages of any government program -- that's what the government wants you to do. But whenever the government wants to implement something and they start telling you why it's so good and so beneficial, stop and ask yourself what the disadvantages are, because those will come back to haunt you and everybody else later. Try to figure out what else may be behind DNA records besides just identity theft prevention. Imagine to yourself that this idea is just one of a series of ideas that together will give the government more control over your life than you will find comfortable. This is not far-fetched, and it is not a conspiracy theory. It's just an observation of history -- people in high places want to be in higher places.

    Let's compare this to computers. Nowadays, it is difficult to crack some of the more secure systems. Take the *BSD OS's... I receive email notification of compromises and patches when they are found. Most of these compromises are buffer overruns and stupid things like that, but when many bugs like that are used in complicated sequences, it is possible to get access to private information. The government is like a huge operating system. Laws are like program statements. If some folks in high places want more control over your lives, they find the little exploits in the laws and use them to modify the system in their favor. Ask yourself: can DNA records keeping be one of many complicated steps that it takes to gain more control over a country?

    Finally, every system run by humans will have mistakes. There is no question of whether or not mistakes will be made in DNA record keeping -- they will be made. If this is put in effect, and the government mixes your record with someone else's (or if somebody manages to switch records around on purpose) how will you prove who you really are? "I'm sorry [sir,ma'am], that's what the computer says." "But the computer is wrong." "I'm sorry, we must go by what the computer tells us." Ask yourself if this is what you want, and seriously consider the disadvantages first. The advantages are without saying.

    Just my two cents worth...
    Nathaniel G H

  2. Biometrics and Security by herwin · · Score: 4

    If someone figures out how to spoof biometrics-based security or identification in some system, there's absolutely no way of issuing new IDs and passwords... I much prefer systems that allow me to do something about a security break-in.

  3. Am I the only one... by joshv · · Score: 5

    ...who doesn't worship at the alter of Mitnick. I saw serveral interviews with the guy right after he was released and he did not strike me as being particularly insiteful or up to date. Additionally he had the annoying habit of explaining things at the microscopic level of detail, which is why, I assume, you no longer see him on Good Morning America.

    I found it particularly amusing when he was asked to comment on the Melissa virus. What was going through the TV producers head on this one - perhaps something like 'computers, illegal, Mitnick!'

    As to what makes Mitnick an authority on biometric identification and identity theft, I have no idea.

    Mitnick was a competent cracker in his day who was made an example of by some corporations and the US government. His 15 minutes are now up.

    -josh

    1. Re:Am I the only one... by s.d. · · Score: 5

      You are not the only one (I thought I was, until I saw your comments). Personally, I'd be much more interested to see a story that said George W Bush or Al Gore was interested in a Federal DNA Database, but apparently when in need of a story, people tend to chase down yesterday's headlines and see if they can squeeze some more blood from the stone.

      People shouldn't care about this guy anymore. I think worse than someone posting the story at all is the comments of Timothy at the end of the submitted paragraph: "Think what you will of Mitnick, his court-imposed computer deprivation hasn't stopped him from peering and poking at the technological world." What the hell does this mean? Just because he reads some magazines or watches the news, he's "peering and poking at the technological world"???? Come on...If you read the news, or really just walk around with your eyes open these days, you're submitted to a blitz of "technology is cool, technology is great" attitudes and ads. It's impossible to miss. Does that mean my computer illiterate parents "peer and poke" at technology, and should be consulted about issues like this?

  4. Bond, James Bond. by Stonehand · · Score: 5

    ...He has said he felt like James Bond. Still, according to figures calculated by law enforcement officials (figures that Mitnick disputes), he caused at least $300 million in damage, with millions spent on new security systems alone.

    Only $300 million worth of damage? Blofeld's oil rig, Goldfinger's base, at least two Russian nuclear submarines, a Columbian drug factory, a biotechnology research lab, countless souped-up cars, helicopters and motorcycles... Mitnick's nothing compared to Bond.

    --
    Only the dead have seen the end of war.
  5. Witness Protection Program by Andrew+Dvorak · · Score: 4

    The cost of ensuring protection of one's identity by indexing DNA comes at a cost.

    • I am indexed in the DNA database
    • I witness a crime
    • I testify against those who had committed the the crime.
    • I may require the protection of the "Witness Protection Program" to protect against retaliation from those associated with the convicted or otherwise.
    • Let's say "something happens" that I need to be referenced in this database.
    • I am now flagged as "somebody else" (note: my "original" identity)

    You can probably understand any further problems, as the witness no longer has as much guaranteed secrecy as before.


  6. Wow... a story based on a single paragraph by Croaker · · Score: 4

    I notice that ZDNet has a whole freakin' story about his one toss-off comment. Here's what he said:

    "I think the government has to establish some sort of central database that uses biometric identifiers, such as your DNA, that can label you as you. This might eliminate a lot of identity theft, because anyone can apply for credit by supplying information over the phone."

    Notice he said "such as your DNA." Not, "yeah, the government should definitly scan our DNA."

    All he's saying is biometric data is the only way to be sure, and identify you as you. DNA is probably a bad example of this. I agree with him in that biometrics of some sort is probably the most crack-proof method that we could come up with to ensure identity. If he'd said "a central retinal scan database" instead, we wouldn't have a story. Seesh.

    Although... it would be somewhat amusing if in the future, every contract were signed in blood...

    As another aside, I read this interview yesterday, and came off kinda liking him a bit, which is more than I can say from the whole "Free Kevin!" thing. He even mocks his worhipper k1dd1ez . "d00d, make me a 1eet HaXoR!"

  7. BFD by mrbuckles · · Score: 4

    What the f**k!?! How does getting caught and sent to prison for cracking some computers make you an expert on all things technological. Am I going to be presented by some article with Mitnick's take every time something comes up in the technical world? He hacked, he got caught, he went to jail. His story is over.