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acomj writes: "In a blow to "anonymous cowards" everywhere the NYTimes has a story on a court ruling anonymous speech is not a protected right. I'm a big proponent of the "consider the source" when reading anonymous posts..." The Times story covers several related cases. The typical procedure for these cases seems to be to file a suit alleging defamation, use the legal powers granted by the court to discover the identity of the speaker, then simply drop the suit and fire the speaker - the lawsuit is only a pretense. This seems like an abuse of the judicial system to me.

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  1. Supreme Court Precedent by Effugas · · Score: 5
    Actually, I'm curious how this court reconciles their decision with the Supreme Court's relatively recent rulings directly supporting the right to speak anonymously. To quote Justice Stevens:

    "quite apart from any threat of persecution, an advocate may believe her
    ideas will be more persuasive if her readers are unaware of her
    identity. Anonymity thereby provides a way for a writer who may be
    personally unpopular to ensure that readers will not prejudge her
    message simply because they do not like its proponent." Stevens
    concluded "Under our Constitution, anonymous pamphleteering is not a
    pernicious, fraudulent practice, but an honorable tradition of
    advocacy and of dissent. Anonymity is a shield from the tyranny of
    the majority. "

    See the above link for further details; essentially, it's rather difficult for the courts to ban anonymous speech when some of the founding papers of this country(the Federalist Papers) were released anonymously, in an environment that was intensely harsh against such speech. To wit:

    The obnoxious press licensing law of England, which was also
    enforced on the Colonies was due in part to the knowledge that
    exposure of the names of printers, writers and distributors would
    lessen the circulation of literature critical of the government. The
    old seditious libel cases in England show the lengths to which
    government had to go to find out who was responsible for books that
    were obnoxious to the rulers. John Lilburne was whipped, pilloried
    and fined for refusing to answer questions designed to get evidence
    to convict him or someone else for the secret distribution of books
    in England. Two Puritan Ministers, John Penry and John Udal, were
    sentenced to death on charges that they were responsible for writing,
    printing or publishing books.

    (If you haven't noticed--England has retained some of the more brutally harsh and heavily enforced Libel laws in the industrialized world. Tradition.)

    I'm actually pretty intensely interested in what the appeals court had to say that would appear to contravene established precedent. Is the court saying it's OK to call the government inept, but not a corporation? Consider what that implies.

    Yours Truly,

    Dan Kaminsky
    DoxPara Reseach
    http://www.doxpara.com
  2. The key problem with this ruling... by isaac · · Score: 5
    ...is that it orders the message board operator to reveal the identity of an anonymous poster *before* it has ruled whether the remarks were in legal fact defamatory. This is the dangerous precedent. Even if the statements in this case are defamatory and not protected under the First Amendment, future plaintiffs will be able to point to this court and say "Look! You have to reveal the identity of this Anonymous Coward first, then rule on my claims of libel/defamation", then single out this individual for retaliation once his/her identity is revealed, even if the anonymous posts are protected speech. (This is one of the favored legal tactics of Scientologists seeking to squash critics, in case you've been under a rock.)

    Hopefully, this decision won't stand; it only serves to legitimize the nasty practice of identifying anonymous critics and whistleblowers via subpoena, for the sole purpose of seeking retribution.

    -Isaac

    --
    I am not a lawyer, and this is not legal advice. For Entertainment Purposes Only.
  3. Hacking the Legal System by Dr.+Tom · · Score: 5
    Yea, the 9th amendment gives you the right, but what most people fail to realize is that rights do not exist in vacuo. Rights are irreducibly tied to responsibilities -- you cannot have rights without responsibilities. It works the other way around, too -- you cannot have responsibilities without rights. You want one without the other? Tough! It doesn't work that way. You want to slander me and hide? Fine, but I have the right to look for you, within the bounds of the legal system, and you are responsible for what you say, whether you do it in the clear or not.

    Naturally, some people are better at hacking the legal system than others.

    This does NOT mean that you don't have the right to post anonymously -- you do -- and a clever person would leverage this to get such cases thrown out of court (any system can be hacked, even the legal system). But you cannot relinquish the responsibilities that go with anonymity!