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Extreme Ultraviolet Explorer Runs Out Of Time
VCP writes: "NASA has decided that the Extreme Ultraviolet Explorer (EUVE) astronomical observatory is to be deactivated and de-orbited even though it is still working flawlessly and gathering valuable information. Why? Because NASA can't come up with $1M per year to support it. Shuttle launches cost what, $20-50M. It shouldn't be that hard to come up with $1M per year."
Shuttle launches cost what,$20-50M. It shouldn't be that hard to come up with $1M per year.
That's the problem, I'm afraid. Most of NASA's budget is committed to the International Space Station and its supporting Shuttle flights; the rest of NASA is on very tight rations as a result.
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While I agree that we should definately spend our money wisely, it seems kind of odd that we are allowing a 'one of a kind' observational device (there is no other device available to continue observations in this portion of the EM spectrum) to be put out of service simply because of financial considerations. I guess that just shows how tight things are getting in terms of funding.
The even more frightful question is what will be de-commissioned next. If this program was cut based on a 1 million $ / year funding basis, I'm certain there are other projects that must be close to being as 'uneconomically viable'.
Another point to make in this situation is that NASA has had 2 failed Mars missions in the last year. If they were really concerned with public opinion and whatnot, wouldn't they want to promote the continuing success of this observational device instead of bringing it down - it works!? (a claim that often cannot be made in our current stage of space exploration)
{cynicism}I guess high energy uv cosmic events aren't as interesting as a barren red landscape.{/cynicism}
First the Russians can't afford to keep Mir up and now the Americans are starting to have a funding crisis, what a sad state of affairs.
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It makes me sick to see things like this. According to a previous article, Bush is predicting a 4.6 trillion dollar surplus over the next ten years. From that, they can't find a measly little ten million dollars to keep this valuable piece of equipment in the sky for another decade? Let's see, 4.6 - 0.00001 = 4.59999. Wow, they're really gonna miss that money.
By the way, check out Berkley's slide show on EUVE. It's fascinating. Describes the equipment on the satellite, as well as it's discoveries very well. Even good for a non-techie.
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The question is money well spent.
Most people don't realize how old some of these systems are. The EUVE was flown a long time ago and there are now two different instruments that provide similar capability, the Space Telescope Imaging Spectrograph on HST, and the Far Ultraviolet Spectroscopic Explorer.
The EUVE has been running for like 10 years, it is probably a good time for it to end (and Stu Bowyer to find something else to do).
There are actually five points you are referring to, known as the Lagrangian points; they're where Earth's gravity and the Moon's gravity are equal, providing what's known as an equilibrium point. Three of them are in a line: one between the Earth and Moon, but much closer to the Moon than to Earth; one on the far side of the Moon from Earth; and one on the far side of Earth from the Moon. All three of these points are "unstable" equilibrium points, however -- the equivalent of balancing a marble on a basketball... there's an equilibrium point there, but the marble's not gonna stay put long.
The other two Lagrangian points are along the Moon's orbital path, but 60 degrees ahead of and 60 degrees behind the Moon's position; these are also knows as "Trojan" points, after the Trojan group of asteroids 60 degrees behind Jupiter in its orbit. These positions are stable: in fact, there's stuff there already, in slow orbits around the Lagrange points. These two points, BTW, are sometimes called "L4" and "L5", and there have been several proposals to put manned colonies there (too long a discussion for here, though).
L4 and L5 are stable, and are the ones you're talking about; but the problem is they're way out at the Moon's orbit, and that's almost as far energetically as putting the EUVE in a solar orbit. It's often been said (and very truthfully) that when you've made it to Lunar orbit, you're halfway to anywhere in the Solar Syatem. The bottom line is, EUVE can't get there.
A further comment: it's not so much that the EUVE needs to be reboosted to keep it going -- the $1M/year is for operational funding, just to support the people and hardware to track EUVE, keep it aimed at the desired targets, receive the data it transmits and suchlike. I remember when NASA decided to do the same with one of the Viking Mars landers after it'd worked for years past its funded lifetime: it upset enough people that some group (the Planetary Society, IIRC) collected the funding to keep it going privately, even though NASA gave up...
EUVE just doesn't have the same publicity pull, though -- too bad for UV astronomy.
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Politics is about making compromises. Religion isn't. --Michael Horton
NASA can afford a million dollars. The question is, what should they spend it on? At some point, you have to pull the plug on old missions after they have met their scientific objectives. There are always other projects that need funding. The trick is to spend the available budget in the most effective manner.
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1 Million Dollars to keep the UV explorer up there = $0.01 per person per annum.
Cost of a shuttle flight = $0.30 to $0.50.
It helps to keep things in perspective.
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Earth has been leaking stuff into space for millions and millions of years. Haven't we already contaminated the neighborhood? Or, if Mars bacteria got here and we're the result ... Mars and we have contaminated the neighborhood.
Ozone is the effect of UV being filtered by oxygen. The oxygen gets blasted with intense UV from the Sun and separates into ozone. If you remove the oxygen from one level of the atmosphere, the UV would simply penetrate further and create more ozone further down. That's why the Antarctic "ozone hole" happens during the months-long winter down there -- there isn't much solar UV hitting the atmosphere there. There's still plenty of oxygen to interfere with ground-based UV observation at sea level anywhere on Earth.
Yeah, an orbital elevator. Duh. It's been thought of in science fiction for decades. The problem is that there is massive strain on the cable from the centrifugal force that requires the cable to be made from material with incredible tensile strength, approximately 62 GPa. Many sci-fi authors have come up with things like "woven diamond." Modern research has indicated that carbon nanotubles might be the answer -- once we find a way of manufacturing them.
In fact, there was a slashdot article on this in September. It's an old idea.
It has little to do with the problem of funding for the satellite. It's just that they can't fund the researchers to watch it. It'll probably stay safely in orbit on its own, but if no one's able to watch it, it would be safer for future shuttle missions to just deorbit it in a controlled fashion.
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