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W3 Releases Amaya 4.0

Death of Rats writes: "The World Wide Web Consortium has just released Amaya 4.0. Its a browser/development tool that is designed to test the functionality of new specs in a practical environment. Essentially, it is the client-side counterpart to Jigsaw. The new version should be pretty good, and there are binaries for Unix and Win32." I've been trying Amaya once in a while for a long time. For all the hype about Mozilla, konqueror and many others, it's interesting that the W3C's effort should get so little attention. One notable feature is that it completely integrates the page creation and page viewing aspects, though you might not see a lot of the Flashy features you'd like in a browser -- Amaya is stubbornly (or appropriately) "correct" in its adherence to W3C standards.

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  1. No MacOS support? by fhwang · · Score: 5

    I know that MacOS is a bitch to write applications for, but still it's a shame there's no MacOS port. There are many web development/design shops that use Macs at a number of points in their development process. Of course, any self-respecting web company would have both Macs and PCs around for testing, but you tend to use a tool much less frequently if you have to switch to another computer to do it.

  2. Re:Amaya and HTML .. by divec · · Score: 5
    My business website, painstakingly html-validated (ON THEIR VALIDATOR!!) doesnt even render right.[...] it doesnt support frames AT ALL

    Your site uses HTML 4.0 Transitional (<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"...). If you want to use Frames, you should use HTML 4.0 Frameset. Or did you mean frames on other sites?
    You HAVE to enter http://

    The "scheme://" part of a URL is compulsory. See RFC 1738. Maybe it's good for a normal browser to allow you to omit "http://", but if the W3C's reference browser did this it could lead people to think that "www.w3c.org" is a valid URL.

    What in the hell?!?!

    Amaya is there to educate web designers and web-browser designers, so it has to be picky. That probably means that it's not a good web browser to use for browsing today's largely non-conforming www.

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  3. Missing the point by GeorgeH · · Score: 5

    A lot of people are complaining that Amaya isn't as nice or as comfortable as Mozilla or IE. These people are missing the point of Amaya.

    Amaya isn't supposed to replace your current web browser, it's a reference implimentation. Its goal is to show how a web browser should render a page. The idea is that if Amaya renders your web page correctly, then your HTML is Correct(tm).

    If you don't understand why web standards are important, check out the Web Standards Project.

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  4. Re:"The W3C is irrelevant" - untrue by divec · · Score: 5
    The market has made the W3C irrelevant. Users and developers fo theWeb don't care what the W3C has to say, it's all about market share and ease of use.

    That is untrue because everyone wants to get onto the XML bandwagon. XML, and all the accompanying technologies (such as XML Schema and XML Linking) provide a standard, open way of storing and manipulating data which is far more powerful than, say, SQL. IE-only web pages may work today, but most organisations who want to do any serious content management are at least considering XML-based systems for the future, and so XHTML-compliant web pages will be a no-brainer once browsers start to support XHTML fairly well (which is basically true of IE 5.5 and Netscape 6).


    Not long ago I would have agreed with your view that the W3C was becoming irrelevant. However, the stunt they have pulled with XML is extremely nice - pulling people towards a powerful open standard because it is powerful, open and standard :-)

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