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Project Pengachu: Handheld Linux for $50?

ContinuousPark writes: "The folks at the MIT Media Lab have been working on a $50 handheld Linux computer. 900MHz, 1mW, 200Kbps peering or hub-and-spoke internet gateways for wireless mode and a RS-485 wired LAN: 1Mbps multidrop. Loads of software on less than 1Mb footprint. They've called it the Pengachu Project: Cheap Wireless Linux for Everyone. Read about it here, an article on the kickoff event for the Digital Nations project."

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  1. Windup radio by XNormal · · Score: 3

    This reminds me of the windup radio developed by Trevor Baylis for use in regions such as Africa where radio is the primary method of distributing important information but electric power and even batteries are difficult to get.

    The windup radio was sold in the west for a pretty high price as a curiousity to subsidize the distribution of these radios in Africa.

    The Pengachu has short-range IP wireless commuication. What about wide area communication in infrastructure-poor areas? The two options I can see:

    1. Satellite communication - a VSAT terminal that is shared by multiple Pengachus using the short range wireless link.

    2. Terrestrial radio. Yes, this is one-way, but it's a very cheap and effective way of distributing information, software upgrades, etc. You can piggyback the data onto existing transmitters (RDS for FM, phase modulation a-la AM stereo for AM)


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  2. Notes from a Pengachu co-designer by matt.reynolds · · Score: 5
    A couple of comments and clarifications from a member of the Pengachu team:

    1. The $50 price tag is OEM cost in bulk. Our goal for this project is to build these devices and give them away to people in the developing world as information access devices. We're therefore not including the 300-400% markup that a commercial product would experience. If you consider the bill of materials cost for a Handspring Visor you will find that something around $30-$40 OEM cost in volume translates to the $110-$120 retail price.

    2. The LCD is the single most costly component of the device (about $10 of the $50 cost target). While it would be nice to have a bigger display, you pay dearly for it. So it makes more sense to figure out how to build a decent UI model for limited screen real estate than throw all your budget into the display, which will cost more, break more easily, and eat up more power. This is especially important if you charge your batteries from a solar or wind-up power source!

    3. This made it to Slashdot before we finished a proper documentation set. We wish to acknowledge the uClinux/Lineo team and TomW (http://www.openhardware.net) for doing the groundwork that made it possible to build these devices. TomW's commitment to open source hardware is especially laudable. Our device is not based on their netlists or board layouts, but their work with other uClinux hardware made it much easier for us.

    -- Matt Reynolds, matt@media.mit.edu (hardware engineer for Pengachu)

  3. Russian experience with ZX Spectrum clones by mike449 · · Score: 4

    In 1987-1994 Russian market was flooded with hobbyist designs of ZX Spectrum and ZX 128 clones. I was in the university back then.

    That cheap, small Z80-based thing had HUGE impact on my generation. The parts cost (including blank PCB and keyboard) was about 20USD. Almost every student in every technical school built one of these and played games nights away. Many learned to program using these. Many went to sell them on the black market and earned seed capital for their later, more interesting ventures. This was truly a quiet revolution. Russia owes large part of its technical and enterpreneural talent to ZX Spectrum.

    The moral is : a good affordable computer design CAN make a differnce in 3rd world countries.

  4. A little misleading... by ca1v1n · · Score: 4

    That 900 MHz is for the radio band, not the processor speed. This is still cool, but I'm not drooling quite so much any more.

  5. Pengachu I pick you! by Picass0 · · Score: 3

    Pokemon Pengachu vs. Pokemon Itsy!

  6. Why LINUX? by My_Favorite_Anonymou · · Score: 4

    You know, Palm already can sell the m100 at 100 and still make a profit. They simply don't have any competition at the low end market.

    By the time this thing is out, m100plus will be something like 59.99. And Tiger Electronic will be selling purple Barbie Palm.

    More low-end keyring PDA to keep Palm honest, yes. A better OS than PalmOS, I don't think so.

    CY

    1. Re:Why LINUX? by dbarclay10 · · Score: 3

      Palms are great - I really love them. But they're not perfect. I don't know a whole lot about them, but do they have a TCP/IP stack? I don't think so, but I could be wrong.

      The reason why Linux is being ported to these small devices is FLEXIBILITY.

      Never, and I repeat NEVER doubt the usefullness of flexibility. If you want a personal organizer, sure you can buy one on the cheap from Palm. But what if you want something with a similar form-factory, but you need it to run only one application? And you can't get license a la Handspring from 3Com(makes of the Palm)? Well, you've got to invest millions in R&D, software, hardware, fabrication plants, etc., etc..

      With a Linux-based portable unit, you have a great deal of flexibility. All of a sudden, instead of paying millions of dollars. you only have to pay(at most) a few hundred thousand for a good development team to write the appropriate Linux-based apps. Plus, you can make them portable. Have you tried to compile a Palm app to run under Linux? Yeah, thought so.

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  7. Small screen!!! Specs URL by strredwolf · · Score: 3
    The screen size is going to be 128x64. Come on, you can't get even 40 coloums of text in there!

    The specs for Pengachu are here

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  8. $50 cost? I don't think so. by cananian · · Score: 3
    This is a copy of I mail I just sent to rehmi@media.mit.edu.

    do you really think you can build pengachu in volume for less than $50? It seems to me that the memory resources alone (DRAM/Flash ROM) add up to more than $50, and these are commodity parts whose price is unlikely to decrease with anything other than time. Perhaps you should clarify that you mean "$50 two years from now" which is very different from "$50 today".

    Added to this objection is the electrical engineering rule of thumb I learned as an undergraduate: a design's cost is roughly ten times its component cost, once all manufacturing factors are added in.

    As a data point, palm pilots based on a subset of your technology are sold for $150 retail. But the devices sold for that price (which may well translate into a $50 "direct to developing nation" cost) include only a quarter of the memory pengachu does and none of the specialized media hardware.

    I'm curious for a cost justification.

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  9. Console? by DNAspark99 · · Score: 3

    I can just see it now; people complain about comand intuitiveness now, what's it gonna be like with a device like this? Can you get a console on it? tilt left,left,right,up,up,down,left for directory listing. tilt right,down,up,right,left,followed by a shake,left,up,more shaking, right, and up once more to change dirs. throw it in the clothes dryer to randomly recompile the kernel. God forbid you drop the thing down some stairs and accidentally issue "nohup rm -rf /&"

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  10. Too little, too soon perhaps? by autocracy · · Score: 3

    Sounds great, but it hasn't got that much in it from what I can tell (based on current specs). The fact that it's using Linux will actually make a difference - not only for the geek factor, but because it's less costly. While some major work will obviously have to be done (I don't think the current kernel supports the stuff in these kinds of systems), it will likely pay off.

    Summary:
    Pluses: -Uses Linux, this means less cost and a
    major "geek" factor.
    -Has modularity extreme, strong point of
    the kernel.
    Minuses: -Has to compete with Palm...This may be
    overcame, but it will be hard.
    -Major mods needed; the Linux kernel
    just isn't meant for these
    kinds of systems.
    -You've gotta pay for all this. Even if
    major effort comes free, it will still cost a whole lot. You've got to not
    only equal the competition, but surpass
    it enough to stand out.
    -Can you imagine recompiling the kernel
    for you palmtop?

    In conclusion: It's got good potential, as long as the obstacles are overcome - but they sure are some pretty huge obstacles.

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