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IBM Appoints Chief Privacy Officer

Chibi writes "IBM has taken a step in what many would consider the right direction, as they have created a new position of 'Chief Privacy Officer.' They are looking at the position to be more policy-focused than technology-focused, and have appointed a lawyer to the postion."

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  1. Interesting Thought... by Cardhore · · Score: 2
    Carry out the common ideal here on slashdot that "information wants to be free" to its logical conclusion. Any private information about you is now free for me to know. I'm sure many people who love Napster would not like me knowing their names, home and IP addresses, internet usage histories, or a list of what magazines they subscribe to. So, would that trade off be worth it, ie. you can copy any CD's you want as long as websites can trade all the previously-thought private data that they've collected?

    Consumers want to share music; corporations want to share personal information databases. Why should only one or the other be allowed to?

    It's like saying if information is free all of it has to be.

    1. Re:Interesting Thought... by Goonie · · Score: 2
      Consumers want to share music; corporations want to share personal information databases. Why should only one or the other be allowed to?

      Firstly:s/consumers/citizens/g.
      Now that I've gotten that bugbear out of the way. My answer to the question you pose is simply: because I, and many others around here, think that a corporation's rights are subisidiary to citizens ' rights.

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  2. Focus by Cardhore · · Score: 2
    They are looking at the position to be more policy-focused than technology-focused, and have appointed a lawyer to the postion.

    Which OS is more policy focused: Windows 95, or Linux? I say Windows.

    Which is better at securing your private data? I say Linux.

    What does this tell us?

  3. Re:White Hat Of The Month! by rgmoore · · Score: 2

    I get the impression that the IBM anti-trust case had a radical impact on the company's behavior. It sounds as though their experience with the government being angry at them was sufficiently chastening that they've tended to bend over backward to avoid a repeat ever since. I almost get the impression that they've concluded that their business is so well off that they don't have to behave unethically to get an edge, and so the combined advantage of avoiding further government unfriendlyness and appearing to be nice guys is considered to be a smart business position.

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  4. Let me get this straight... by asackett · · Score: 3
    Okay, what we have here is:
    • Multinational Corporation
    • An attorney
    • The word "Privacy"
    all used in the same paragraph. My butt cheeks are so firmly clenched that I may be driving myself to the emergency room in order that my next bowel movement can conclude successfully. I would trust an attorney with my privacy about as readily as I'd trust a rattlesnake to perform oral sex on me.

    Okay, I'm at least moderately cynical and possibly more than minimally paranoid. But when a major multinational corporation appoints an attorney to a position supposedly advocating and protecting consumer privacy, and issues a press release about it, I check my calendar. Yep, sher enuff, it's still the year 2000. I still don't believe anything that comes out of an attorney's mouth, and I don't believe in a corporation that cares about me except as another contributor to the revenue stream.

    If IBM has news it's released as a white paper. If it's released as a press release, it's just propaganda. Perhaps as the opposite of Your Rights Online, slashdot should have a category for this kind of thing called "Yeah Rights Online".

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    1. Re:Let me get this straight... by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 2
      I still don't believe anything that comes out of an attorney's mouth, and I don't believe in a corporation that cares about me except as another contributor to the revenue stream.

      Well, they were looking for a geek to fill the role, but as fate would have it, every single applicant either got their long, curly beard caught in the escalator, snagged a red suspender loop on a coat rack, or dropped one of their Spock ears in the storm drain outside the office, and thus never actually made it to the interview.

      Oh, for a world where all geeks didn't have long beards, red suspenders, and Spock ears. Of course, that's just about as likely to exist as a world with just, trustworthy attorneys. Wishful thinking, nothing more.

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  5. Super. by Q*bert · · Score: 4
    Before I went to work for IBM, they not only made me take a urine test for drugs, but also made me sign releases allowing them to check up on my financial history and "manner of living". Somehow I doubt this is going to change soon. Luckily, it was just an internship. I learned a lot of valuable things, including why not to work for IBM.

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    1. Re:Super. by slim · · Score: 2

      I've been led to believe this is far from unusual with US employers. IBM UK Ltd do nothing of the sort.
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  6. CPO vs. C3PO by booch · · Score: 2

    If a CPO is a Chief Privacy Officer, what would a C3PO be?

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  7. Re:the issue of privacy by ichimunki · · Score: 2

    At the very least this helps them out when they get into hot water. The privacy officer is given the freedom to carp about the subject as much as necessary, but the end results are the responsibilities of IBM business managers. The privacy officer can unify and codify privacy policies for any/all subsidiaries and business lines to ensure the whole company is marginally consistent. Then, if there ever are questions from a legal standpoint there is both a person to be the lightning rod for resolution and for the board to point to and say, "hey, we care about privacy" and then hand the problem to that person.

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  8. Re:Will this position be a rubber-stamp? by slim · · Score: 2

    Say IBM get's a new CEO that wants to start selling the e-mail addresses of their web-store customers to other companies. Would the Privacy Officer have the power to stop this?

    If the privacy policy given to said customers forbade selling on their email addresses, then that couldn't happen (unless IBM broke the law) - and that's partly what a privacy officer's job is: ensure that any services which hold data on people have a well-defined privacy policy. It's up to the customer whether or not an individual privacy policy is to their satisfaction; but anything done with the data within those boundaries is fair game.

    In the UK, by the way, we have the Data Protection Act, which defines strict laws about what information you are allowed to store on individuals under what circumstances.
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  9. Whooh! Dullsville. by Denial+of+Service · · Score: 2
    Is this a boring article, or freaking what? Sometimes, I have to wonder how the Slashdot crew is the least bit surprised at the number of trolls around here, what with real conversation starters like this masterpiece.

    Geek 1 - IBM's got a new CPO. How about that?
    Geek 2 - I hear he's a lawyer.
    Geek 1 - A lawyer? Wow, that's a spicy meatball!

    Cripes, this has absolutely no meat.

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  10. Central place by Chacham · · Score: 3

    That is nice. They'll have a central place with all the privacy policies. That gives a central place to get information on their policies and a central place to complain to. Noone can say it not their job, or push you off by saying that they'll look at it. I hope this works out well.

  11. Will this position be a rubber-stamp? by jayhawk88 · · Score: 3

    The idea of a privacy officer sounds great, but one has to wonder what happens if the concerns of said privacy officer start to conflict with the wishes of the company? Say IBM get's a new CEO that wants to start selling the e-mail addresses of their web-store customers to other companies. Would the Privacy Officer have the power to stop this?

    The example I use is rather simplistic I realize, but this is an issue that get's more complex every day. Will company privacy policies hold up against the misguided wishes of a companies CEO, board of directors, or stockholders?

  12. I don't get it... by Rombuu · · Score: 2

    So music should be freely available and downloadable by any idiot with a modem, since "information wants to be free", and software should be distributed with source code since its "wrong" to keep this information from people, yet for some reason, your name, address and phone number have some sort of sacred status??

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  13. White Hat Of The Month! by seebs · · Score: 5

    Whitehat.com awarded part of IBM a White Hat of the Month award in February. I have no idea whether the site is still actively maintained, but WhiteHat was an attempt at replacing crap like TRUSTe with an organization that actually *cared*.

    IBM is moderately serious about privacy. They are the only major vendor (except Compaq) that hasn't spammed either me or anyone I know. Gateway has spammed most of the people I know; Dell has spammed a couple of them, etcetera etcetera. IBM has had my email address in their databases for two years without bugging me, and has been very good about sending me information I asked for *and nothing else*.

    I know it seems weird, but IBM may actually be one of the more ethical companies out there, in this regard.

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  14. This is about selling prods and services by gelfling · · Score: 3

    You can't sell a service if you can't name it so this is the name attached to selling that service. You sell privacy services - makes sense since as the article mentions you can't sell security explicitly. It's like trying to sell life insurance or tombstones. No one wants to deal with it until they have to. Moreover since security and privacy tends to take a tools approach its very hard to put the tools wonks in front of customers and execs. They don't communicate well with one another.

    Trust me - IBM would not make a public announcement of an executive level lawyer/engineer (can you say patent attorney?) just because 'privacy' gives someone a woody. It's to create a business function that can be used to sell privacy products like PKI and smart cards, encrypted MQ, safe Notes, private email. Or it's to sell consulting services like 'how to insure your customers' privacy' or 'how to insure that employee web surfing is being tracked legally' or 'getting that search warrant for your employees home computers' and so on.

    Or if I were cynical I'd put it in the "Minister of Information" category - to whit - insuring that there is absolutely no privacy at all.

  15. Policy vs Technology focus - another point of view by dpilot · · Score: 3

    But privacy is closely related to security, and anyone truly versed in security knows that policy is the real issue. You can throw all the technology at your security that you want, and if the policies are broken most likely the security will be, also. But if you have a good security policy, it will guide you on the correct technology to deploy, how to deploy it, and how to assess and manage the risks you are taking.

    Read the articles, and you'll see that that's what this is about.

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  16. Depends on how you read this by Alien54 · · Score: 2
    I mean, what would you say if any of the following announced such a corporate position (Chief Privacy Officer) - (although It does sould like a Chief Petty Officer to me, a senior enlisted rank in the navy)

    • Microsoft
    • The IRS
    • Al Gore/George Bush (pick one)
    • Torvalds
    • Your Local CouncilMan or City Official
    • Your Boss
    • Finance Institutions
    • etc.
    gets interesting after awhile ....
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  17. Remember _1984_? by TWX_the_Linux_Zealot · · Score: 2


    <conspiracy theory>

    Remember, in George Orwell's "1984", many of the organizations and positions were named opposite of what they actually did... the Ministry of Peace made war, etc. Newspeak has become more and more common with corporate America (I don't know first hand about elsewhere, but I'd imagine that it's vying for its share there too), and phrases like "we must accentuate our efforts to prioritize gross revenue intake to better posture our entity in the market" and other crap like that, and eventually language will mean nothing. They might not be like _that_, but remember, just because it hasn't happened (that we know of) doesn't mean it can't happen...

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  18. Return of the frat jerks by AntiPasto · · Score: 4
    Alright ladies! It's just me, the privacy officer, checking the bathroom...

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  19. More info by Tomcow2000 · · Score: 4

    The Register has a good article on this also.

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  20. Consumer Privacy... clever by daniell · · Score: 3
    Ah. I'm not sure how many of you read that as privacy for the company and it's employees, but apparently the intent was more to concern themselves specifically with the impact they have on other's privacy, primarily their customers'. I think that this is a very nice turn of events that there is some form of decision making going on in protecting and ensuring a level of privacy to all the people who deal with the company. This should be done everywhere in a more centralized and overall rational manner.

    -Daniel

  21. IBM wasn't the first by Tim+Macinta · · Score: 3

    TiVo hired a Chief Privacy Officer about two months ago. TiVo may or may not have been the first (I don't know), but IBM was not the first as seems to be the implication here. It's good to see a big company picking up on this, though.

  22. Zero sum? by ABetterRoss · · Score: 2

    I don't see the advantage here? Wouldn't a privacy initiative cancel out (or at least diminish) publicity efforts?

  23. Some things just have to be private... by ejbst25 · · Score: 2

    In many ways I look at this article and wonder if this means people will assume that IBM is trying to close itself off to people. I think with any company looking to make money...there are always things that must remain private. While this could be the problems of another company, it also has a lot to do with new innovative research, policies, etc. I don't think that this is really a surprise to anyone and was frankly surprised to even see it on slashdot. I am of the belief that this is a good and practical thing for any company of any size with the slightest amount of confidentiality/innovation to consider.

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  24. Interesting. by TheFlu · · Score: 2
    I was just at TRUSTe's site, and I couldn't seem to find any information on their own Chief Privacy Officer, just a list of people on the Board of Directors. Shouldn't a company that exists solely to advocate privacy have a Chief Privacy Officer? Maybe I just didn't look hard enough.

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  25. It may be a good thing... by b0z · · Score: 3
    Well, maybe. In the article it says:

    On the horizon, companies and consumers face serious challenges "over locational issues," whereby wireless technology makes it easier to pinpoint handheld and cellular phone users, Pearson warned.

    From that statement she sounds paranoid enough to fit in on Slashdot so that's good enough for me. Hopefully her job allows her to do more than just sit there and sharpen pencils all day though. If she is allowed to do her job, and given the resources she needs, I think this is definitely a good thing. But, if this was purely a move by IBM to get publicity, and don't intend to give her any real power, then it's useless and will give a bad example to the rest of the industry. We'll see what happens.

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