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Inferno Plugin for IE - An OS In Your Browser

anothy writes: "Vita Nuova has released a preliminary version of their Inferno plug-in for Internet Explorer (other browsers and OSs pending). this embeds Inferno, a small OS built around good security, a virtual machine, and an extention of the Unix "everything is a file" model, right into your browser. The plugin itself is 719Kb (smaller than Flash or RealPlayer) and provides most general OS services, including I/O, text manipulation, floating point functions, and graphics, including a Tk (no, it's not Tcl/Tk) implementation. These are the exact same Dis files that run on native Inferno (on raw hardware) or emulated on various other OSs. They also provide additional info on the plugin, including a little info on writing Inferno applications. Inferno's originally from the same lab at Bell Labs that gave us Unix, C, and Plan 9." See our previous article.

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  1. Re:Doesn't look like an OS in a browser by plunge · · Score: 4

    When you get the plug-in you are essentially downloading the Inferno kernel. I know it's hard to understand in the Windows age, where the definition of "OS" for some reason now includes a media player, but it's certainly an OS. (I actually think the Widow Manager (WM) is evenincluded in the plug-in as well.) And incredibly small and portable one, which is great. Run the "shell" program, and look around. Inferno's real "power point" is that it can run practically anywhere, either native or emulated- and does a very efficient and good job at both. Plus, Limbo is a REALLY cool language. Forget talking into a mic and making the sound come out of your computer's speakers- with Limbo you just need a few lines of code to talk into a mic and make the sound come out of _another_ computer's speakers. Neat stuff- in fact if they'd let Inferno out of the secure no-networking box this plug-in puts it in, you could play with stuff like that.

  2. Who cares? by pb · · Score: 4

    I never got past the Apple ][ emulator in Java.

    I bet Inferno doesn't have any games, either.

    Damn you, AT&T, and your Unix heritage. MacOS X will never have any good games. You're not going to take away my web browser too!
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  3. it's all you say and more by DrSkwid · · Score: 5

    the usual moaners saying "what's the point of that" bore me

    The point really is that you get the write once use anywhere philosophy. Ok so java has been there before but surely that fact doesn'e preclude someone else trying it out.

    The plan9, Inferno system of distributed computing through namespace binding is the true gift of this project. Although I did notice some of the Styx functionality has been removed for security (Styx is the network).

    You implement services by mounting your service as a file system. You can then execute all of your machines capabilities through echo & cat!!

    "So what!" I here the unimaginative cry well you can bind services from remote computers and use their capabilities in exactly the same way.

    want to play audio on MY computer
    roughly

    bind MyComputer\audio \hisaudio
    cat music.pcm \hisaudio

    and the audio plays out on my machine

    You imagination should take you from there.


    .oO0Oo.

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    1. Re:it's all you say and more by Chris+Locke · · Score: 4
      I did notice some of the Styx functionality has been removed for security

      Yup, I'm working on the security model right now (when I'm not reading /. !!!) Once we're happy with it, an update will be made available which will open up the networking support.

      We have some pretty cool applets available that use the networking. These will be put up on the vita nuova web site, with the plug-in update once the security model is right.

  4. Look on the bright side... by Yu+Suzuki · · Score: 4
    At least you're just running "an OS" instead of "GNU/Linux." Because then you'd have GNU's Not Unix's Not Unix's Not Unix's Not Unix in a browser in GNU's Not Unix's Not Unix's Not Unix's Not Unix in a browser in GNU's Not Unix's Not Unix's Not Unix's Not Unix...

    Oh dearie me.

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  5. What chance has this got - remember Tclets? by Argon · · Score: 4
    I don't want to sound cynical, but anybody remember Tclets? If you don't, head over to the Tcl Plugin at the now defunct scriptics. For all practical purposes this is a Java wannabe on the browser.

    What many folks may not realise is that Inferno was in fact written in answer to Java. Development started more than 6 years back when the first Netscape browsers were released with Java support. Java uses a stack based VM, Inferno used a register based VM.

    I remember me and my friends being pretty excited about Inferno (we were doing our post graduation). We thought Java really sucked. At that time everything was touted up as a Java alternative, including Perl (someone wrote a sandbox for Perl and was quite vociferous about it).

    Now six years later, I use the web with Java completely disabled and I really don't want a client side execution environment on my browser. Maybe javascript has it's uses (which was originally Livescript and Netscape changed it's name to hook on to the Java hype), but all these "execution environments" are simply browser bloat that I can live without.

    That is not to say Inferno is useless. I still think it's great stuff, just that I see no point in having it as a browser plugin.

  6. Is that me in the mirror in the mirror in the... by mantis78 · · Score: 5

    An OS.
    A browser in an OS.
    An OS in a browser in an OS.
    A browser in an OS in a browser in an OS.
    An OS in a browser in an OS in a browser in an OS.

    How many recursion before we run out of memory and CPU cycles?

    Just wondering.

  7. Hmm... by Have+Blue · · Score: 4

    OK, so I could run Inferno in IE in Windows in VPC in my Mac?

    But wait, what about OS X? Then I could run Inferno in IE in Windows in VPC in the Classic environment in my Mac.

    I wonder if any of the PC emulators could handle VPC itself. Then you could run Inferno in IE in Windows in Mac in Windows in Mac in Windows in Mac in Windows...

  8. Doesn't look like an OS in a browser by Carnage4Life · · Score: 5

    After reading the information on the plugin, I fail to see how this is an OS in a browser.

    The plugin allows you to run applications written in a specific language(Limbo) for the Inferno OS on your browser but isn't an OS in your browser from what I can see.

    This is more akin to being able to run Java applets in your browser via the Java Virtual Machine than any OS in the browser crap.

    From the Inferno plugin page
    The Inferno Internet Explorer plug-in allows a Limbo program to run inside a web page when displayed by Microsoft Internet Explorer 4 or 5. The plug-in executes Dis within a sandbox in the Inferno Dis virtual machine which provides the execution environment for all programs running under the Inferno Operating System

    Grabel's Law