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New Netcomm Smart i Share 56k Modem/Hub/Server

NAcker writes: "LinuxWorld.com.au has an article about a new type of 56K modem that is also a four port ethernet hub. The Netcomm Smart i-Share 56 offers DHCP and firewall services by running embedded Linux! The article has photos of the "network in a box"." This is an interesting piece of kit, not as much of a stretch as those silly radio/flashlight hybrids from places like The Sharper Image. Now if only they would also make it a wireless access point, I would let my credit card heat up a little more. And besides, for those of us who submit to dialup, wouldn't it be nice to have a modem that runs the 2.0.38 kernel?

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  1. You want root, just sniff it! by Nugget94M · · Score: 2

    Of course you get root, since they're using telnet and not openssh. Just sniff the traffic.

  2. Re:running linux! by DarkClown · · Score: 2

    Gawd - really!
    You can get a linksys router and dsl for a year for the price of that thing!!

  3. SMC has a far better option... by fmaxwell · · Score: 3
    SMC has their Barricade router. It has a four-port switch, a WAN ethernet port to connect to a cable modem or DSL, a serial port to connect to a modem (for connection sharing over modem), and a parallel port so that it can act as a print server. It has a firewall, packet forwarding, and can be fully configured with a web-based interface. It costs about $115 USD delivered to your doorstep. Add the cost of an external modem (if you don't have one) and you are right around $200.

    So why would I pay almost $500 for one that cannot share anything but a modem and provides no print server? Because it has Linux in it? The SMC might, too, but they are smart enough not to tell that to every hacker that might be looking for an exploit!

    1. Re:SMC has a far better option... by fmaxwell · · Score: 2
      I have note experienced the port delays nor have the sites that reviewed it. I wonder if it might be related to some incompatability between your ethernet and SMCs. Unfortunately, ethernet does not always plug and play nicely.

      I agree that automatically connecting on failure of the cable/DSL would be nice, but what is "failure"? Timeouts? How many? How long? You get the idea.

      I've been requesting that the allow the modem port to be a PPP server so that I could have dial-in access to the net without paying for another ISP. I could retrieve my e-mail, browse my systems, etc. while I am away from home. They say this one is on the list.

  4. Re:Blast from the past? by SquadBoy · · Score: 3

    No it is not overkill for a device like this. Linux is the only thing out there that scales down well enough with enough features to run on embedded systems and that you do not have to pay for. This is one of the things that makes devices like this possible. If they had to pay for another embedded OS the profit margin on something like this would go away. And keep in mind this is embedded Linux and it has already won in that marketplace. See the link to understand why.

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  5. Re:My Linksys Cable/DSL router... by BrK · · Score: 2

    Intel still makes i386's (last I heard). They're still very popular in SBC's, I have a couple from JK Micro that I've been toying with for a while. Tern is another (of many) i386 SBC vendors.

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  6. Remember the rest of the world... by Party+Chief · · Score: 3

    ...Lest we forget that many countries don't have decent DSL or cable services and a *lot* of people are grateful to have 56k dialup for their SOHO or small business.

    Many products that are taken for granted in the US (Linksys et al) are not necessarily available in certain countries due to Telco regulations (many countries with monopoly telecom operators force a modem manufacturer to comply with certain rules - this can be expensive).

    So, this appears to be an Australian product. Kudos to them. Don't knock the design or functionality simply because you've transcended this method of connection years ago. Small companies would find the opportunity to share 56k dialup access with a few PC's very interesting in some less well connected locations.

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  7. Cable/DSL router/firewall with serial modem backup by Fencepost · · Score: 3
    From Asante.

    It includes a 4-port 10/100 switch, a WAN-side Ethernet connection to go to the cable or DSL box, and a serial port that can be used to connect an external modem as a backup. It does NAT. It does DHCP. It firewalls. It includes three "groups" for different levels of port blocking. It includes a parallel port for printer sharing. It's web-configurable. It has beta IPSec support.

    It's also cheap, with a list price of $200 and at least one place selling it for $150-160.

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  8. Re:GREAT!!! by JSBiff · · Score: 3
    While I tend to agree with your sentiment, I also want to point out why people use (or perhaps in the past used) devices like this. And as other's point out, this is not a new idea. In 1998 I was working for a place that regularly installed similar devices at client sites. I don't remember the devices having a built-in hub, but they could be hooked up to a hub through an ethernet port, and had a built-in modem, DHCP server and NAT-ing router.

    The company I worked at was a small VAR/System integrator in a Semi-rural area of Northeast Ohio. We sold and supported desktop computers and Novell networks to small businesses ( <500 employees) in an area with a radius of about 50 miles. The reason we installed these devices was that as the clients were very small companies, they had maybe two or three desktop PC's in their office that needed access to the internet. This was before cable modem/DSL technology (which I would say would be a more practical solution today, where available), ISDN cost a small fortune and didn't give much of a performance benefit, and a T1 cost a real lot of money (in the semi-rural areas where this company does consulting, I'm not even sure if T1's were available at the time, and even now they cost something like $1500/month because the clients are out in the boon-docks).

    You might ask why not just give each PC their own modem and connection? Because then the company had to pay for extra dial-up accounts and extra phone lines (and these were not deep-pocketed companies), and the people in these offices that used the internet only made light use of it. Email, maybe an hour or two a day of doing business related work on the web (like checking prices from suppliers, or updating the company website, or electronically submitting government or insurance forms), and maybe a little bit of personal web surfing. Odds are, the various employees wouldn't all use the internet at the exact same time, and even if they did, the internet connection was mostly idle while they read the web-pages/email. So it worked out very economically and satisfactorily for the company to use one shared internet connection, and using an external device like this is more reliable than using Win98SE's internet connection sharing (which didn't even exist at the time). Although you could use *BSD/Linux, that would require a dedicated computer (which would be more expensive than one of these devices), and additionally the VAR I worked for didn't have any *nix experience and didn't want any ;-), and didn't require that any of the individual computers be on all the time.

  9. Re:Blast from the past? by SecretAsianMan · · Score: 2

    Linux is the only thing out there that scales down well enough with enough features to run on embedded systems and that you do not have to pay for

    No it's not. Linux There are several freely-available embedded OSes. One of them is eCos. Hell, another is FreeBSD. Et cetera, et cetera...

    You really need to step outside of your FUD-lined linux cage every once and a while.

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  10. Linux-powered Microwave Oven by fmaxwell · · Score: 2
    HotPenguin just introduced their new 1.3 cubic foot, 700 watt HotPenguin 7.2 microwave oven. It sports an Intel StrongARM SA-1110 CPU, 16MB of flash which stores the Linux 2.0.38 kernel and applications, 8MB of dynamic RAM, and a 10/100 Ethernet port.

    Unlike conventional Microwave ovens, the HotPenguin 7.2 has no keypad and is controlled by commands received through Telnet connections via the Ethernet port. All operations are controlled via the "cook" command and the oven includes a complete man page for the command detailing all options, including power level (30%, 50%, 70%, and 100%), cook start and end time (expressed as seconds since 1/1/1970), and beep frequency, interval, and duration to signal that a cooking event has completed.

    The retail price of the HotPenquin 7.2 is $950 and there is currently a two to three month order backlog due to stories that appeared on Slashdot.com and other Linux-related web sites.

  11. Hylafax server? by MikeFM · · Score: 2

    Could you make this thing act as a Hylafax server and add extra modems? Mmmmmm.

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  12. Blast from the past? by BrK · · Score: 5

    This is not "news". Netgear and Linksys, along with several other companies have had 56K hubs/routers/dial-up managers for some time now. Just because this thing runs linux doesn't increase the "gee-whiz" factor, IMO. Linux is overall for a device like this anyway.

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    1. Re:Blast from the past? by BrK · · Score: 3

      What do you think was used before linux? Linux is simply *not* the only thing out there that scales down well enough... Devices like this existed YEARS ago, before linux was a common word, and before it was robust enough to be used in an application like this. As for the profit margin, with this device being roughly 2x the cost of it's competitors, I don't think they're doing much in the way of cost-cutting.

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    2. Re:Blast from the past? by alhaz · · Score: 2

      Oh, Idunno, I'd bet money that some company has been selling thousands and thousands of a box that's all that and more running linux, and with additional capabilities like vpn support, ipsec, etc, and making oodles of real money off it while the entire /. community wasn't looking.

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    3. Re:Blast from the past? by kevlar · · Score: 2

      I think that the majority of routers like this on the market actually RUN linux. The only difference is that they don't publicize the fact, and they don't publish the kernel (maybe it could be requested?... them not publishing the kernel without request is not a violation of the GPL). They could simply not tell anyone that they use Linux, and nobody would bother them.

    4. Re:Blast from the past? by BrK · · Score: 2

      In my experience, the competitive devices run an embedded OS, which is not linux. Modem, dial-up and Ethernet chipsets have been around for a long time now. This is probably a 4 chip device (not counting a bit of "glue" chips, etc), including the uProcessor. Running linux on a box like this is like putting a V8 engine in a Geo Metreo, then of course limiting it to 25MPH. My guess is that this comapny used linux to get press releases, and mentions on linux-fan sites (seems like they were successful ;)

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  13. Re:running linux! by BrK · · Score: 2

    It may be slow, but at least it's expensive! $480Aus = ~$260 US. Alternative "magic boxes" from other companies are about $130-$150. What exactly is the benefit of this thing?

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  14. Changing the Terms of Service by gimple · · Score: 3
    To me the most interesting thing about these types of appliances is how they affect service providers' ways of doing business

    When I started using Coyote Linux as a "router" connected to a cable modem, the terms of service for my provider clearly stated one machine per modem.

    Recently, I went back to look at the Terms of Service and this provision was removed. I have to believe that the availability of access sharing devices and software was responsible for this change.

  15. Absolutely! by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 2
    And besides, for those of us who submit to dialup, wouldn't it be nice to have a modem that runs the 2.0.38 kernel?

    Heck, yeah! Then all you'd need is a video card running the 2.0.38 kernel, too!
    And a sound card running the 2.0.38 kernel.
    And a DVD-ROM running the 2.0.38 kernel.
    And a CD-R running the 2.0.38 kernel.
    And a keyboard running the 2.0.38 kernel.
    And a mouse running the 2.0.38 kernel.

    I'm sure we could cram a kernel or two into a wrist rest, too...

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    1. Re:Absolutely! by revnight · · Score: 2

      hmm. a new use for those old boot floppies still sitting around...

      some disks, a little ductape, and walah! a beowulf cluster wrist rest.

      if that doesn't strike your fancy...peel off those useless plastic covers of said boot floppies, grab a jar of jam and a stylus of some sort, add a little saliva on back and you get strawberry flavored linux post-it notes.

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    2. Re:Absolutely! by British · · Score: 2

      Shh! I'm trying to recompile the kernel on my floppy drive.

  16. Re:Secure connections for administration by BrK · · Score: 2
    I would think that you could only configure it from the inside, and not from the 56K dial-up side, so the only real threat is internal. Sure, there *may* be things that could be exploited.

    It's not a far-fetched idea, I just think that the company that designed this was merely trying to jump on the Linux and dial-up router bandwagon, and wasn't really trying to do anything ground-breaking.

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  17. SMC makes one too by Joe+Rumsey · · Score: 2
    Barricade

    I just got one a few days ago. It's working fine as a router for my cable modem, but the wireless card I bought for my laptop came with drivers that windows won't even recognize as valid drivers. I had to return it, and Fry's didn't have any other choices for PC cards. So I don't know how well the wireless works yet.

  18. Wireless 56k/Ethernet Access Point by jgilbert · · Score: 2

    Lucent/Orinoco has a wireless 'residential gateway' product that has a built-in 56k modem. It can also act as a bridge to an existing 10baseT LAN. It has worked excellent. I'm not sure what OS it runs though. Unfortunately, you do have to have a windows box to configure it. It just sends some stuff over the network to configure the box so it probably wouldn't be that hard to reverse engineer.
    RG-1000

  19. Re:Secure connections for administration by BrK · · Score: 2

    I don't think that's it's meant for a "high-security" or industrial strength network, so the added overhead of SSH isn't really required. Afterall, if you've only got a 56K connection to deal with in the first place, what's the chances that some uber-hacker is going to be on your (4 port) network?? Most end-users are familiar with WWW, the "power users" can use telnet, but (IIRC) Windoze doesn't even come with an SSH client, and their target audience has probably never heard of SSH anyway.

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  20. Re:running linux! by Novus · · Score: 2

    I assume that normal /. reasoning includes the following: Linux-based => hackable => must-have. Or something like that.

    Of course, for that sort of money you could get a 486 and slap Linux, a modem and a network card into it; the only real advantage with this gizmo is that you get everything in a neat, quiet little box.