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Direct3D Applications And Wine
Vesuri writes "TransGaming Technologies has released a patch for Wine which makes it possible to run Direct3D applications under Wine. I ran 3DMark2000 and I was impressed - it really DOES work like they promised. It's not perfect but it's a really good start!"
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Didn't you read the license for IE when you installed it?
This is another way IE is tied to the OS.Like Tetris? Like drugs? Ever try combining them?
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Funny, that sounds like *exactly* the same philosophy that Microsoft has with regards to Java: being compatible with the rest of the world is a threat to commercial success. Best to be incompatible so people will be stuck with you.
I sure hope Linux doesn't succumb to the "you become what you hate" syndrome. I don't want people "stuck" with Linux, I want them to *like* Linux. Users and game developers alike.
Anything -- I repeat, *anything* -- that makes it easier for people to use Linux either as their first OS or as a migration target is a good thing.
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When these people make their jump complete, they will buy Linux software for the platform, as a matter of course. Hence Loki will benefit.
Its a bit like the PSXII benefiting from having full PSX emulation. People will migrate because of WINE, but when they get there they will buy ported programs as a preference.
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... is to make viruses and VB scripts run on Linux through WINE. Once that is done, the migration of the desktop user base to Linux can begin in earnest.
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Do not operate Heavy Gear under the influence of Wine!
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We have to decide which battle to fight. It's no good having the perfect platform with perfect apps if no one uses it. The masses won't use it until a critical mass of applications is available, and those apps won't be available until the masses can shell out the $$. The thing that Wine does is gets more people running Linux by providing those Windows apps that don't exist as Linux apps yet. Once they're on Linux, if our OS is really as good as we think it is, they should learn really quickly that native Linux apps are better than emulated ones, and want to switch over. But first we need that critical mass of audience, not of native apps. IMHO.
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I'm a rather avid gamer, and I'm quite fond of Linux -- but I can't fathom a single, rational reason to run Direct3D games under Wine on Linux.
Now, irrational reasons may exist. For example, a virualent hatred of all things Microsoft might lead someone to run already-unstable games (every DirectX game has hardware and driver compatability problems) through emulators...
Is any serious gaming enthuiast going to give up their Wintel box to run an emulator under Linux? I doubt it.
So what is the point of this technological exercise -- other that to prove that you can run DirectX under Wine?
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A significant part of the wine development is on winelib, which allows windows applications to be compiled on linux, bsd or pretty much any unix for i386. There is also work on porting winelib to sparc systems.
RTFM people WineLib Users Guide
I fail to see how this capability would take any support away from porting applications.
This is a step in the right direction because no matter what people say games are often killer applications that help people choose their computing platform.
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As a long time Linux user, I strenuously object to this direction for my preferred OS. My Linux box is not a toy, and it shouldn't be used as such!
Linux has succeeded so well because of (until recently) the complete lack of frivolous chrome that bogged down other once-noble systems like DOS. I grudgingly accepted a simple window manager as an occassionally useful tool, but knew full well that some people would get totally carried away with it and force these resource-hog abominations on us like KDE, Gnome and TWM. Serious computing is done with the command line, OK?
It's only gone downhill since that first X server started working with Linux. I've never liked the idea of Wine to begin with. I mean, who the hell wants to run some windoze app on something like Linux? What the hell is the point in that? You know why people do it? Because they're too stupid to learn Emacs or Vi and they need they're precious Word!
Look, people, Linux is a serious tool for people doing serious work. If you can't figure out how to use it then stay the hell away from it and stop trying to corrupt it with your damn eye candy!
I can't believe people have polluted Linux with some Microso~ game API. The Linux we have all come to know and love is dying, and I think it is an absolute shame.