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GeForce 3 Demoed - Running DOOM 3

green pizza writes "Yesterday at Macworld Tokyo, Steve Jobs and John Carmack demoed the new nVidia GeForce 3 (73 GIGAFLOPS of power)... on a G4... running DOOM 3. Please excuse me while I pick my jaw up off the floor. You can get more details from MacNN." [michael adds: VoodooExtreme has screenshots of Doom 3 running on the new GeForce card; Shugashack has more. Looks like Doom 3 will be another game where the color palette is "shades of black". Sigh.]

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  1. Not "shades of black" by magic · · Score: 5
    Remember: the game is running on GeForce3, which is currently Mac only. Mac's are automatically gamma corrected, so images created on a Mac look really dark on a PC (since PC's aren't usually corrected).

    Yes, DOOM3 is dark, but probably not as dark as what you are seeing in the screenshots-- look at those shots on a Mac or SGI instead of a PC and you'll be surprised how bright they are.

    magic

  2. linux-friendly video by wht · · Score: 4

    a realplayer version of the video is available at CNet, so the rest of us can watch it...

    Walter H. Trent "Muad'Dib"
    Padishah Emperor of the Known Universe, IMHO

  3. Can't see a thing... by ChristianBaekkelund · · Score: 4
    1) I for one want some better screenshots made available! I can't see a damn thing on those very very dark screenshots at 306x234???
    I mean, is this supposed to be meaningful in any way?: http://216.105.168.97/cgi-bin/image-o-matic.cgi?do om2k/11.jpg
    So close, but yet so far!...hehe...But this video clip is kinda cool.

    2) Anyone know any concrete scheduling info. on Doom3?

    3) So, how much do people think that Apple paid nVidia for the whole "out on Apple first" deal?

  4. Re:Shades of Grey by 2nd+Post! · · Score: 5

    You know, there's another term for that; color calibration, monitor calibration, gamma correction. All Apple machines automatically do that, it's built into the software. The monitors are also shipped calibrated. The video cards all support it as well. On the PC world it wasn't really a feature until a few years ago, and a lot of people have no idea that it exists. There are reasons why Apple still sells big in the publishing industry, because they want this feature; what they see in a brochure is identical to what they scan is identical to what they print is identical to what they email to their partners in the UK is identical to what is printed at the bookshop in Singapore is identical to what they see in their heads.

    Geek dating!

  5. Damn. I *hate* shades of black by jvmatthe · · Score: 4
    You know nothing in shades of black is ever good.

    Like Citizen Kane. What is that? CRAP!

    Or The Maltese Falcon. That's crap too.

    Or the original Gameboy. Shades of black on the screen. Ergo crap.

    Or even that asshole M. C. Escher. Lots of shades of black there. And it was craptacular.

    sigh

  6. More than just the GeForce3 at MacWorld by imac.usr · · Score: 5

    Since it doesn't appear that there will be a separate story talking about the other new announcements at MacWorld Expo, here are some of the highlights most interesting to Slashdot readers:

    - The Power Macs were subtly altered. The former build-to-order dual 533 MHz model is now a standard configuration from the Apple Store (which means retailers will start carrying it as well), and there's an option to purchase a 733 MHz model with a CD burner in place of the DVD-R/CD-RW combo unit (saving $400 in the process).

    - Those wild new iMacs have at least upped the specs slightly for the graphics chipset; still Rage 128-based, but at least there's more memory (16 MB) on board. Plus, the 500 and 600 MHz models are the new G3 chip with the full-speed onboard 256K cache.

    - The Cube now offers the GeForce2 MX card as a build-to-order option (standard w/ CD burner on the high-end model). Guess ATi's still on Apple's shit list to some extent.

    - Fellow Mac users should try running Software Update and see if they get CarbonLib 1.2.5.

    - The $49.95 5-pack of DVD-R disks is finally available from the Apple Store, but the estimated ship time is 45 days.

    Now, if I could only get a Flower Power G4 Cube..... mmmmmmm....

    The Mac forums are blazing with commentary on the new iMac colors. Personally, I kind of like them, and hope they do a good job of stimulating interest in a highly overlooked demographic; women computer users. Anything that brings computing power to a wider audience can't be a bad thing. Besides, the effect is supposed to be slightly 3Dish, with the pattern all the way through the case instead of merely stuck onto the surface. I can't wait to see one in person.


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    1. Re:More than just the GeForce3 at MacWorld by maggard · · Score: 5
      Why not, it's all /. folks ever natter on about.

      "I'd never buy a fruity-colored computer"

      "Steve Jobs is (insert some random extreme opinion) and should I ever meet him I'll give him a dirty look".

      "Only lam3r d00dz uze 1-button m1ce".

      C'mon, frankly the level of discussion on /. regarding the existing biggest commercial competition to MS & the soon to be largest unix vender is reliably sophmoric.

      Apple is an independent billion-dollar corporation that has reliably innovated and is moving unix into the consumer market faster then anyone else yet all we hear is the same whining crap from /.'ers repeating the same urban-legends about Xerox PARC and Apple not giving away QuickTime yadda yadda yadda.

      Is talking about the floral-prints any different?

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  7. Re:Shades of Black by chancycat · · Score: 5
    And when you play the un-lit sewer levels on the moon-less night setting, armed with your shades-of-darkness--death-cannon, I bet you'll get, maybe 200+ fps.

    I'd show you a screen shot, but we can save bandwidth if you just look at your screen with your eyes closed for a bit.

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  8. Re:Hrm, Holy Trinity? by Raptor+CK · · Score: 4

    Well, today's the 22nd.

    So, that's 2/22/2001
    Three two's in the day (without the year)
    2+0+0+1=3
    2222001, or 222*3 = 666!

    We're all doomed!!!!

    Or something.
    Raptor

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  9. Re:NVIDIA loses more points... by Temporal · · Score: 5

    "Optimized for Direct3D" does not mean that it isn't also "Optimized for OpenGL". And if NVidia is so closely tied to Microsoft, then why are they releasing the GeForce 3 for the Mac first?

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  10. Re:Shades of Grey by John+Carmack · · Score: 5

    Unfortunately, the giant projector screens are not color calibrated the same way at all.

    The colors did get rather washed out on the big screen.

    John Carmack

  11. Re:Shades of Grey by CaseyB · · Score: 4
    Yeah, the engine was terribly misrepresented by an inadaquate display during that demo.

    If only there were a way we could see images generated directly from the source...

  12. Re:Competitive clock speed???? Did I miss somethin by John+Carmack · · Score: 5

    We did a ton of testing the last two weeks while we were putting the demo together.

    The 733 G4 was not as fast as my 1 ghz PIII in any of the trouble areas.

    Apple is doing a lot of good work, but the CPU's just aren't as fast as the x86 ones.

    AltiVec can compensate in some cases, because it is way, way easier to program for than SSE, but it takes a very simple batched, computation intensive task for it to pay off in any noticable way. Amdahls law and all that.

    We did a couple functions with AltiVec, but they didn't make much difference.

    Video encoding and large image processing are two areas that it can pay off, because you may be spending 90%+ of your time in one page of code.

    Even then, it takes a special balance to let a G4 come out ahead, because it has less memory bandwidthd than a high end x86 system.

    John Carmack

  13. Re:A question, John? by John+Carmack · · Score: 5

    We moved to C++ for the current game (which does not have an official full name yet).

    I will probably do a .plan update about it, because it has definately had its pros and cons.

    Jim Dose had inadvertantly used a few MS specific idioms that we had to weed out over the past couple weeks of the bring up on OS-X.

    John Carmack