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K12Linux + LTSP = .edu Terminal Server Distro

Paul Nelson, writing "We are educators who think using open source software in public agencies is the responsible thing to do," says "We have released a turn-key terminal server distribution based on RH7 and the LTSP packages. Simply install Linux and start plugging in your diskless terminals. Very little or no configuration is required. We've included some cool educational software and have (with permission) bundled StarOffice as part of the install. To kick things off we have 1000 Intel Celeron processors to give to schools building Linux terminals. We also have some Xeon processors to help schools building servers. Our goal is to have 1000 terminals in 100 schools by one day (July 4th.) For more info including links to download the CD-Install image (650mb) head for http://www.riverdale.k12.or.us/linux/." Any parents (or other aggrieved taxpayers) out there might be interested in showing this off at a PTA meeting. You may also be interested in the Simple End User Linux and the Debian Jr. projects.

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  1. This is what Linux should be all about by ajs · · Score: 5

    Having worked for a high school-focused company, I can appreciate how much this will help. A lot of schools need help in getting the latest technology to their students.

    Linux (and open source in general) is poised to do this. Schools are in need of large systems that students of all degrees of expertise can disect. What's more, a lot of students need to be given positive feedback on their work. What better feedback than having IBM ship the modification that you made to Apache or having Red Hat ship the documentation that updated for the GNOME login?

    Now, even better: which platform is more likely to support the privacy rights of these kids?

    You can go on and on. The only reasons schools use anything but open source software is marketing.

  2. Re:Not a "terminal server" by runswithd6s · · Score: 5
    The reason LTSP chose the name as it did was because it wanted to appeal to the UNIX-challenged and Micro$oft-influenced market. Windows Terminal Server is a version of NT/2000 that provides remote desktop environments for Windoze compatible clients. It's very spendy and very difficult to keep running efficiently for any period of time. You CANNOT depend upon ONE Windoze Terminal Server being up all the time. You have to do the good ol' server farm that Micro$oft is so famous for.

    Interested in providing big businesses an alternative to the cyclical licensing scheme of Micro$oft and it's cohorts, the LTSP crew thought the name Linux Terminal Server Project would appeal to these poor, Micro$oft inflicted Systems Administrators and IT Personel. Its name was not chosen for its more appropriate application in the UNIX and X11 world, referring to serial port dummy terminal servers.


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  3. Re:This ought to help by donutello · · Score: 5

    That's ridiculous. I wish people would keep activism out of the classroom. The decision on what software/products to use should be based solely upon what is the best tool for the job. I'm not saying Linux is not the best tool for schools but this decision was not made on that basis.

    I wouldn't trust my children to educators who put the interests of projecting their viewpoint over the interests of the children to learn with the best tools available to use.

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  4. Re:This ought to help by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 5
    Activism is already in the classroom -- commercial activism. Microsoft is 'giving discounts' to schools, Nike is buying add space in gymnasiums. Even some of our education is biased (it pretty much always is). This includes promoting our national history as 'good and right', glofifying Capitalism over other economic systems, and a presumption that our rather warped and minimal version of democracy is the best choice out there.

    You can choose what you teach, or you can let it be taught for you -- often by commercial interests. As long as it fits within the defined curriculum, there's nothing wrong with expounding your own thoughts on things -- as long as you identify it as your own opinion and not official dogma.

    I went to Junior high at a Catholic boarding school. The priests there were willing to discuss things like the gritty parts of the history of the Catholic church and creationism vs darwinism and why a literal reading of Genesis was problematic. Some of what we were taught was not completely flattering to the Catholic Church. When it diverged from the official church line, it was generally identified as such...

    I'm glad that my teachers were willing to 'step out of the box'. I think that it gave us all more room to think about things for ourselves.
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    I think that exposing students to Linux is a great thing.. At least then they know that they have a choice. What they do with that choice once they get home should be up to them.
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  5. forget about schools, i want one at home by inquis · · Score: 5

    Remember all that buzz about the iOpener? It was loved here on /. because it made a good X client; a computer in your kitchen!

    This seems to me to be a MUCH better solution. Just set up a dedicated server in your attic running this Linux distro and buy two or three of those thin clients to put around your house. It may be marginally more expensive to do it this way, but if the server soft is as easy to use as the site proclaims, the ease of setup and use would more than make up for the price difference.

    -inq

  6. Great step to getting Linux more accepted. by Dram · · Score: 5
    This is one of the greatest things I have seen. Not only is it making linux more accessible to students, it also give students more computers. Last spring I graduated high school and there are two things that many schools are missing; one is the lack of qualified teachers that know how to use any sort of computer, Windows, Mac or otherwise, and the other problem is the lack of resources to buy computers.

    One of my friends that I graduated with got a job at our old schools library and he is showing them the way of Linux by installing a server to get their Mac networks and their Windows networks to work together. So the willingness of school administrators to try out new things is there. Giving them easy access to these "new" technologies and incentive is necessary for them to make their way into the classroom.

    Apple made a big push to get their systems used in schools. One way they did this was by giving away computers. Today if you go into any public school you will find Macs in greater numbers than any other type of computer even though they are not used in industry as much as other computers.

    So this is a great step into getting Linux tough to students and getting more widely accepted by the majority of computer users that are not the computer elite.

  7. This is wonderful. by Jakob+Sorrel · · Score: 5

    As a parent, I am always encourage when I hear about this type of program.

    I have a 12 year old daughter who has shown an interest in computers, and thanks to the efforts of a businessman who is a memeber of the local rotary, her school was recently able to aquire fifteen used computers, most of them Athlons. I was especially excited to learn that eight of them had Red Had Linux installed.

    One of the teachers at her school is also a long time Linux administrator and user, and it's simply amazing the progress and learning that she is making. Admittedly, I am far from an expert, but she has already passed me by!

    I want to encourage anyone who is considering donating computers to a school to please do so. They very much do make a difference in some of the technologically inclined children's education.

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