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AOL Censor Tells Most If Not All

An unnamed reader writes: "From the latest Village Voice: 'You've got mail--and moral conundrums! A former AOL "censor" comes clean about the messy ethical dilemmas spawned by anonymity.'" This is one of the ickiest workplace accounts I've read in a while, but parts of it may make you laugh as well. You know that AOL has people watching the online traffic -- well, this proves that the job is not as glamorous and fulfilling as it sounds, but it does have some odd twists. See also this older Salon story for further insight on AOL acceptable use policies.

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  1. A difficult position by Jakob+Sorrel · · Score: 5

    While censorship is always a difficult issue, I think there is a real place on the Internet for censored access.

    I am a parent, with an 8 year old son and a 12 year old daughter. I want them to have access to as many educational opportunities as possible, but I am not always around to supervise them. My general practice has been to turn on censor-ware while I was away, but turn it off if I was available to keep tabs on my children.

    While I appreciate the dilemmas that the AOL censor has faced, I feel that they are nonetheless providing a valuable service that is appropriate for many people. While I'm not sure what I think about government sanctioned or required censoring, censored Internet access definitely has a place in my household.

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    "The night is long that never finds the day." -- William Shakespeare
    1. Re:A difficult position by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 4
      Huh. You must have been stapled to your mommy's apron strings as a child. I'll bet the other kids got a kick out of that.

      I used to go off into the woods, unsupervised, in grade school.
      I used to walk home from school, unsupervised, almost every day.
      I sat on my bed and read books, unsupervised.
      I climbed trees, unsupervised.
      I played video games, unsupervised.
      I programmed my old Apple IIe, unsupervised.
      I rode my bike all over the neighborhood for entire afternoons, unsupervised.
      I played baseball in the street, unsupervised.
      I went to the public library, unsupervised.

      Yet I'd laugh in your face if you even to even suggest that my parents were negligent. My parents raised me to be an individual with a spirit and responsibilities of my own. I cannot even begin to express how glad I am that they did not tower over me every waking minute of the day. I wouldn't have grown into a person; I would have become a spineless, simpering cur, incapable of taking the slightest bit of independent action or thought.

      Don't confuse responsibility with supervision. Constant supervision is most certainly not a responsible way to raise a child.

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      Obliteracy: Words with explosions

  2. Data captured by deran9ed · · Score: 5


    Diary of an AOL (l)User.

    July 18 - I just tried to connect to America Online. I've heard it is the best online service I can get. They even included a free disk! I'd better hold onto it incase they don't ever send me another one! I can't connect. I don't know what is wrong.

    July 19 - Some guy at the tech support center says my computer needs a modem. I don't see why. He's just trying to cheat me. How dumb does he think I am?

    July 22 - I bought the modem. I couldn't figure out where it goes. It wouldn't fit in the monitor or the printer. I'm confused.

    July 23 - I finally got the modem in and hooked up. that nine year old next door did it for me. But it still don't work. I cant get online.

    July 25 - That nine year old kid next door hooked me up to America Online for me. He's so smart. I told the kid he was a prodigy. But he says that's just another service. What a modest kid. He's so smart and he does these services for people. Anyway he's smarter then the jerks who sold me the modem. They didn't even tell me about communications software. Bet they didn't know. And why do they put two telephone jack holes in the back of a modem when you only need one? And why do they have one labeled phone when you are not suppose to hook it to the phone jack on the wall? I thought the dial tone sounded funny! Boy, are modem makers dumb! But the kid figured it out by the sound.

    July 26 - What's the internet? I thought I was on America Online. Not this internet thing. I'm confused.

    July 27 - The nine year old kid next door showed me how to use this America Online stuff. I told him he must be a genius. He says that he is compared to me. Maybe he's not so modest after all.

    July 28 - I tried to use chat today. I tried to talk into my computer but nothing happened. maybe I need to buy a microphone.

    July 29 - I found this thing called usenet. I got out of it because I'm connected to America Online not usenet.

    July 30 - These people in this usenet thing keep using capital letters. How do they do that? I never figured out how to type capital letters. Maybe they have a different type of keyboard.

    JULY 31 - I CALLED THE COMPUTER MAKER I BOUGHT IT FROM TO COMPLAIN ABOUT NOT HAVING A CAPITOL LETTER KEY. THE TECH SUPPORT GUY SAID IT WAS THIS CAPS LOCK KEY. WHY DIDN'T THEY SPELL IT OUT? I TOLD HIM I GOT A CHEAP KEYBOARD AND WANTED A BETTER ONE. AND ONE OF MY SHIFT KEYS ISNT THE SAME SIZE AS THE OTHER. HE SAID THATS A STANDARD. I TOLD HIM I DIDN'T WANT A STANDARD KEYBOARD BUT ANOTHER BRAND. I MUST HAVE HAD AN IMPORTANT COMPLAINT BECAUSE I HEARD HIM TELL THE OTHER SUPPORT GUYS TO LISTEN IN ON OUR CONVERSATION.

    AUGUST 1 - I FOUND THIS THING CALLED THE USENET ORACLE. IT SAYS THAT IT CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS I ASK IT. I SENT IT 44 SEPARATE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE INTERNET. I HOPE IT RESPONDS SOON.

    AUGUST 2 - I FOUND A GROUP CALLED REC.HUMOR. I DECIDED TO POST THIS JOKE ABOUT THE CHICKEN THAT CROSSED THE ROAD. TO GET TO THE OTHER SIDE! HA! HA! I WASNT SURE I POSTED IT RIGHT SO I POSTED IT 56 MORE TIMES.

    AUGUST 3 - I KEEP HEARING ABOUT THE WORLD WIDE WEB. I DON'T NOW SPIDERS GREW THAT LARGE.

    AUGUST 4 - THE ORACLE RESPONDED TO MY QUESTIONS TODAY. GEEZ IT WAS RUDE. I WAS SO ANGRY THAT I POSTED AN ANGRY MESSAGE ABOUT IT TO REC.HUMOR.ORACLE. I WASNT SURE IF I POSTED RIGHT SO I POSTED IT 22 MORE TIMES.

    AUGUST 5 - SOMEONE TOLD ME TO READ THE FAQ. GEEZ THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO USE PROFANITY.

    AUGUST 6 - SOMEONE ELSE TOLD ME TO STOP SHOUTING IN ALL MY MESSAGES. WHAT A STUPID JERK. IM NOT SHOUTING! IM NOT EVEN TALKING! JUST TYPING! HOW CAN THEY LET THESE RUDE JERKS GO ON THE INTERNET?

    August 7 - Why have a Caps Lock key if you're not suppose to use it? Its probably an extra feature that costs more money.

    August 8 - I just read this post called make money fast. I'm so exited. I'm going to make lots of money. I followed his instructions and posted it to every newsgroup I could find.

    August 9 - I just made my signature file. Its only 6 pages long. I will have to work on it some more.

    August 10 - I just looked at a group called alt.aol.sucks. I read a few posts and I really believe that aol should be wiped off the face of the earth. I wonder what an aol is.

    August 11 - I was asking where to find some information about something. Some guy told me to check out ftp.netcom.com. I've looked and looked but I can't find that group.

    August 12 - I sent a post to every usenet group on the Internet asking where the ftp.netcom.com is. hopefully someone will help. I cant ask the kid next door. His parents said that when he comes back from my house he's laughing so hard he can't eat or sleep or do his homework. So they wont let him come over anymore. I do have a great sense of humor. I don't know why the rec.humor group didn't like my chicken joke. Maybe they only like dirty stuff. Some people sent me posts about my 56 posts of the joke and they used bad words.

    August 13 - I sent another post to every usenet group on the Internet asking where the ftp.netcom.com is. I had forgot yesterday to include my new signature file which is only 8 pages long. I know everyone will want to read my favorite poem so I included it. I'm also going to add that short story I like.

    August 14 - Some guy suspended my account because of what I was doing. I told him I don't have an account at his bank. He's so dumb.

    More AOL humor

  3. Keep KidsNet separate from the Internet by Morgaine · · Score: 5

    If parents allowed their children into the adult parts of town, we'd call them irresponsible. Yet when it comes to the Internet, apparently they can ignore their responsibilities as parents and pass the blame on to others instead.

    The Internet isn't a protected playground and it can never become one without becoming utterly emasculated. It is a faithful cross-section of all of humanity, without artificial barriers, and that is what makes it the largest and most valuable resource on the planet. The Internet may be in fashion with youngsters wanting to be adults, but if you're a parent it's NOT the place to let your youngsters roam freely before they are old enough to make their own decisions.

    In its danger lies its strength.

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    "The question of whether machines can think is no more interesting than [] whether submarines can swim" - Dijkstra
    1. Re:Keep KidsNet separate from the Internet by CrazyLegs · · Score: 4

      Ok... I'm a parent and, no, I wouldn't let my kids go into 'adult' parts of town. But as a metaphor for Internet usage, this is really weak! There's a big difference about controlling where your child is PHYSICALLY versus where your child is ON-LINE. I know when and if my kid leaves the house, but it just takes a few quiet clicks to end up on the wrong side of the Net. Make no mistake, the Net offers up some truly unique parenting dilemas.

      Having said all that, I agree with the rest of your post. The Net is NOT that place to let youngsters roam free (and to hell with childless libertarians who spout crap about kids coming to grips with the 'real' world, and "porn never hurt me when I was a BBS whippersnapper", and the like).

      For my family, we have a few solutions. We DO NOT use censorware 'cause it doesn't work well and provides a false sense of security. I DO check logs, caches, and such from time to time. I DO surf with my kids from time to time and help them build bookmarks for the sites they regularly visit. And finally, we DO keep the kids PC in a corner of kitchen where the monitor is there for all to see.

      Does this work? So far, yes.... but my kids are only 5 and 8 and someday they'll be smarter and curiouser. When that time comes, well I hope I've raised 'em right, Beyond that, I guess I'll be their parent....

      - rant over -

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      CrazyLegs

      "Pork!!" said the Fish, and we all laughed.

  4. Ignorance by vulg4r_m0nk · · Score: 4

    To my mind, one of the saddest things about this account is that it's further demonstration of how little technology is understood by the average user. As the article illustrates, the myth of anonymity is far and away the greatest contributor to inappropriate behavior online. For another recent case in the media, recall the genius that used AOL instant messaging to send follow-up threats to students at the high school in SD -- "Huh? How'd they find me? My curtains were closed and I sent the message from inside the closet!"

    Now where this gets kinda interesting is the fact that users want technology that hides the details, as the discussion Monday indicates. Unfortunately, as more is hidden, the less likely it is that a user will be able to utilize the technology in a prudent manner, because they simply won't know where to begin looking for possible dangers, if they look at all. So, I expect we'll see more instances of people doing questionable things online out of idiocy, and the problem will get worse as long as they are shielded from the details of how things work. As the article posted notes, many AOLers (and you know they aren't the only ones) misunderstand the nature of the Web so fundamentally as to fail to see that sending threatening letters to AOL staffers is about as smart as demanding a cashier's check at gunpoint.

    Another example to think about here is the impressive number of young nekkid chicks all over the Web -- how many of them actually understand that those pictures will never, ever go away?

    So, I think where I'm going with this is to suggest the following:

    • Developers of technology ought to be focussing on giving the common user tools that 1) work; 2) are mature and stable such that the user doesn't have to plan to learn a new system every year. Fewer bells and whistles, more good apps that users actually comprehend. (note that I'm talking about software for the average person, not slashdotters, so relax ;-)

    • We need to realize that many of these problems exist because to learn to use any piece of technology safely requires some time and effort to understand on some basic level what it's doing, unless you want to clip the user's wings entirely and make their decisions for them. Right now there is a scary dearth of knowledge in the heads of users, and that's why a lot of the shit out there (death threats and worms clearly labeled .vbs (which just kills me BTW ;-) ) is there in the first place.
    The upshot is that a crucial part of our discussions about the future of technology, especially where the discussion is about responsible uses of tech (i.e., Web access in public libraries), has to be about properly educating users. And I'm not talking about holding the hands of retards, but giving good instruction just as we do regarding the use of any other major piece of equipment.

  5. Just goes to show... by galego · · Score: 4
    You can't rely on corporations, elementary schools, government, churches...Nay, not even censorware to keep your kids safe.

    The story of the kid and the screen identity is kind of heart-wrenching...at least how its told. Did he say what the nick was on the IM? I mean...it could have been the kid down the street and her son going to light off some firecrackers. <siderant>We just live for media like this and look for the worst in it. There must me a perv on the other end cuz the media tells us (or suggests) so...right?</siderant> But I do understand the anguish of the mother. I've had my daughter wander off inside a store and send my wife frantically chasing and calling after her, meanwhile thinking what might have happened. Amazing what your mind can do in 5 minutes!

    There's just no guaranatees...which means you can't rely on AOL's censorship team to keep your kids safe. People get mad if a politician, teacher, etc. tells them it's their primary responsibility (as parents) to teach, monitor and help their children, but that's just the way it goes folks. And ya know what...There's still no guarantees!

    And yes...since It's our responsibility, I would just as well have these groups out of the picture, only invading privacy further.

    Galego

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    Que Deus te de em dobro o que me desejas

    [May God give you double that which you wish for me]

    1. Re:Just goes to show... by peccary · · Score: 5

      The story of the kid and the screen identity is kind of heart-wrenching...at least how its told.

      The "mother" was bull-shitting the AOL rep. Scamming, lying, social-engineering. Mark my words -- you'd have heard about the AOL-stalking child-abducter otherwise. The caller was almost certainly not actually a mother, and was just trying to extract someone else's identity from a trusting AOL staffer. It burns me to see people who ought to be tech-savvy still perpetuating the myth that the Internet is overrun with pedophiles and child abusers, when the reality is that it's overrun by petty, vindictive, malicious, lying adults.

    2. Re:Just goes to show... by Saint+Nobody · · Score: 5

      i can think of two cases of that kind of social engineering succeeding against aol just of the top of my head:

      • A girl named Amber Applebaum found out Trent Reznor's email address. (he used to have MTRez@aol.com) she proceeded to call tech sypport and say that she was Trent's wife (he's not married) and she needed the password. then she proceeded to send email from his account for a while. she was later arrested for it.
      • There was a case a while ago where there was a web page run my an anonymous member of the u.s. navy dedicated to gay sex. the navy just called up, without any of the allegedly necessary paperwork, such as a subpoena, and asked who it was, then gave him a dishonourable discharge. (i'm pretty sure it was the navy at least. i don't remember details.)

      in both of those cases, aol specifically stated that the operators violated aol policy. and who knows how many cases of that i don't know about...

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  6. Just like the BBS's of old... by Anml4ixoye · · Score: 5
    I am one of those users (as I am sure are a lot of us) who started with this whole computer thing long before AOL, when it was just BBS's and 300-1200-2400 baud modems (zmodem transfer, yes!). I never had a problem accessing most content, though some BBS's did a better job than others.

    At the time, I was just a wee lad, and really didn't know much better. I got involved with quite a few groups, and became 'friends' with a lot of people. Of course, you could lie a lot about a lot of things, but jeez, I was only 13 when I started, so I didn't know *too* much to lie about. At any rate, after being on a lot of the local boards, one guy invited me to do work at a shop he owned doing electronic stuff. I worked there for perhaps four months on the weekends before on day he drugged me and molested me (I'm a male BTW).

    But do I blame the BBS for that? Do I blame technology for that? Obviously not as I am still heavily involved in the field of technology, nor do I go out torturing llamas and the such because of it. It was a bad experience, and one that I hope no one has to go through, but I learned a lot of valuable lessons from it.

    So why people all of a sudden act like AOL is such a bad thing, I don't understand. In my opinion AOL is to BBS's what Napster was to MP3's - It opened up a world that previously was only available to those who knew what they were doing. It mainstreamed chat and email, and allowed users to connect to this 'internet thing' (even if they do think AOL == Internet) and enter a world never before open to them.

    But as those of us who have operated or participated on BBS's or ICQ or anything else of that nature know, the price that opening a service such as that brings is exactly what we see. People are not what they seem, very sadistic and strange people dive right in, and a general melee seems to run rampant. By exposing your personal information to a stranger, you can get in a lot of trouble. Why does this surprise people?

    I despise AOL. Not because of what they have accomplished, but in their methodologies. Researching them, I see what they are trying to do, and the 'features' that they add to their software. Imagine a service like AOL that, instead of trying to protect themselves, served to help people step into the next level of computing. Imagine something similar for the world of Linux (very theoretically of course) where users would get a simple installation disk to start that was all GUI, and 24-hour support, but slowly were weened off to strictly command-line interfaces and hash-bang scripts.

    Or maybe not.

    But let's not let the people who have no clue set the boundries to which we are 'allowed' to use the internet. The internet world has always been and will always have people who aren't what they seem, whose ultimate motives are to pillage, rape, kill, etc. No longer are they forced to hide in their little worlds. Anytime you have the ability to hide your identity, some people will use that to a different advantage, for a different purpose than just expressing ideas.

    I feel we basically have a few options of where to go from here.

    1. Reveal the identity of all users. Have some giant world-governing organization ensure that everyone is who they say they are, say by implanting a chip in everyone that automatically signs them into the computer.
    2. Continue with things being the way they are and watch as the world we are used to gets bashed and limited to the point where you would be lucky if you could find Powerpuff girls sites because they are too violent.
    3. Educate the public, and our lawmakers, and support ways to protect users without taking away the things that we hold dear. But realize at the same time that by not regulating everything, some people may slip through the cracks and you may have to actually be careful online.
    If your kid has a computer in his/her bedroom, and you don't talk to them about the things they may see, or don't keep up with them on a regular basis, don't be surprised to come in one day to get them for dinner and find them gone. But even if you do all of that, you still may find them gone. Sometimes there is nothing you can do.

    So don't let the public take away something that has been around for years and years just because it doesn't fit into their personal schedules. Yes, the internet is a dangerous place sometimes, but that doesn't mean that we should close shop just to appease the customers who don't like it.

  7. My experience with AOL by DrEnema · · Score: 5
    Frankly, as a medical professional, my experience with AOL has been less than satisfactory. Their overzealous account-cancelation policies are simply ridiculous. I called to explain to them that I am a real doctor but they wouldn't listen to me.

    I am now happily using roadrunner for cable-modem access instead of the crappy AOL, upon recommendation from one of my patients.
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    "I give sadistic enemas to men, women, and children."

  8. Re:Spooky, but good read. by scrain · · Score: 5

    As someone who used to work for AOL ('til the TW merger finalized, at least) here's the scoop.

    No... AOL doesn't scan or log IM content either on the service or via AIM or ICQ. There's just too many of them to even consider doing it. The last number I heard about volume was upwards of 750 million IM's a day, and that was at least a year ago.

    The IM's that they're talking about in the article are ones reported to the CAT teams via what used to be the TOSIM screenname/notify AOL tools. Those were notoriously easy to try and fake by posting in whatever you wanted. They changed it to use only the 'Notify AOL' button in AOL 5.0 and later as the only acceptable way of reporting. The button adds a verifiable token value to a hidden field in the report to ensure that it's not faked content.

    scott

  9. Everyone online is NOT a pedophile by freeweed · · Score: 4
    The predominant thinking here seems to be that this kid was going to be abducted by some old creep or something. Strange... when I think of that message, my first thought was 'he probably snuck out to see his girlfriend'.

    I think the issue here has nothing to do with AOL, rather why this kid doesn't tell his mother where he's going when he leaves. But of course I forget, everyone who's not on /. is a pervert who abducts kids.

    A LOT of kids (especially teens) chat with their friends online. No need to make a capital case out of it. You better believe the phone company wouldn't release the personal info if this kid had used the phone instead of a chat room. Or are slashdotters secretly technophobes too?

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